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Author Topic: Archie and Friends & Betty maybe cancelled  (Read 25153 times)

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Offline RiverPhoenixDale

Re: Archie and Friends & Betty maybe cancelled
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2011, 12:10:01 AM »

Offline Tuxedo Mark

Re: Archie and Friends & Betty maybe cancelled
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2011, 08:31:06 PM »

So maybe Archie ISN'T cancelling Betty and Archie & Friends?  Confusing.

Maybe they reversed their decision? Because Johanna seemed to indicate that she got the not-cancelled notice after I had been told by Mr. Goldwater that "Betty" was cancelled "but not for a long while still".

Betty Cooper + Cheryl Blossom. It's inevitable.

Offline jdh417


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Re: Archie and Friends & Betty maybe cancelled
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2011, 06:11:42 AM »
That's interesting.  I also makes there new book club a great price with this news. 

Offline B-ko Daitokuji

Re: Archie and Friends & Betty maybe cancelled
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2011, 02:19:03 PM »

More speculation about Betty.

I'm kind of tired of everything going digital.  I mean if it helps Archie make money, great, but eventually I think there's going to be some kind of backlash against it.  And I mean that in general.  The recent wisdom seems to be phsyical media will disappear, but its going to get to a point where people don't want to live in their phones, laptops, and other portable digital devices.  Part of it I think is businesses salivating over the opportunity to completely get rid of thier overhead.  So you lead to a situation like what Netflix is doing now, really trying to get ahead of the curve, that is alienating their entire customer base. 

I'm glad though that the people running Archie have said in their press release they only want to use digital comics in a "supportive" role.  That at least sounds a bit less disconcerting than other companies who are pretty much "this is the future, deal with it."  Still prefer to read my stuff in print.  Glad other people can get their fix on their phone, but I don't think I will be changing anytime soon.

Offline jdh417

Re: Archie and Friends & Betty maybe cancelled
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2011, 07:17:09 PM »
For whatever advantages there are with digital, let's look at the process.  You're spending hundreds on a device, so you can buy Internet service, so you can buy content, which you have probably only have restricted ownership of, until the next format change.

Offline Frank

Re: Archie and Friends & Betty maybe cancelled
« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2011, 07:08:07 PM »
I'm a huge digital fan.  At this point, I prefer all my textbooks, novels, magazines, music and many games to be digital.  I still like comics and some video games as physical items though,

What excites me about digital comics is that it allows companies like Archie to get wider reach, sell more content, meet more market demand, and keep more great artists employed.

If a comic only sells 10,000 issues - it is in danger of getting cancelled.  If it can sell 8,000 print and 4,000 digital - then it may be saved.  At a time when traditional comics in print are seeing declines in readership, I support anything that gets more readers into the comics.  Many of these digital readers may read issues in digital and then treat themselves to nice printed volumes of material as well.  Many may download copies while on the go and in remote areas, but buy print editions when and where they can.  Even more important - international sales of digital editions could really bring total sales figures up!

Content still needs to be created - so this makes it a healthier industry formthose working in it as well.

There was a time when people collected comics.  Older issues would retain or even increase in value.  Now, old print editions are less than new ones.  Why is this a concern?  It is cheaper to buy old issues than new ones.  This is great for readers, but not great for the company.  To get modern content, we need a healthy modern economic engine generating revenue. If digital sales increase revenue and effectively subsidize my paper copies then I am all for them.

Also - the iPad is fantastic for reading comics.  As more people get these and the price drops, it's going to get more use.  People complain about the price, but think of it as buying a couple bookshelves.

My kids love that I can bring a few dozen comics with me whenever we are travelling too!
No matter where I go, there I am.  Creepy.

Offline Frank

Re: Archie and Friends & Betty maybe cancelled
« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2011, 07:17:00 PM »
Why they should not cancel Betty.

Betty is an important character for Archie and one that needs to be supported in her own title.  She represents the average girl that is beyond average not because of her family, wealth, or even just her looks.  What makes Betty special is that she is a average girl that works hard and achieves success through her own efforts.

Betty is the tomboy and the prom queen.  She is the strongest positive role-model that Archie has for young girls. 

Archie needs to think of their titles as part of a portfolio.  Each book is an aspect of the "personality" that makes-up Archie Comics and I think that losing Betty unbalanced this portfolio.  Yes, sales are always an indication of where the readership is, but I think that taking away Betty will more than reduce the whole.  Those that buy Betty may also buy other books and when their favorite book is cancelled, this may impact the others.
No matter where I go, there I am.  Creepy.

Offline Frank

Re: Archie and Friends & Betty maybe cancelled
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2011, 07:23:20 PM »
Why Archie needs to keep Archie & Friends.

See my "portfolio" argument above, but here are some specifics on Archie & Friends.

This title is the only title where the "cast" can act as an group.  This title allows us to not explore a single character, but expel the way the characters interact with each other.  In a time of shrinking page counts, this is the title where we can have the "off line" stories - Freshman Year, Chuck, Jughead & Betty.  Losing this title will lose an "engine of exploration" for new creative ideas.  Not having a fertile ground to try new ideas will cause the main titles to be less risk-taking an the line to be less fertile.
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