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The Crazy Betty/Villainous Veronica Thread!

Started by BlueBomber2015, April 15, 2016, 12:44:55 AM

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Original Sin




Here's a fanart thingie I did a few years ago. ;D Classic Betty's psycho stalkerish obsession with Archie makes her perfect for the role of the crazy ex in My Super Ex-Girlfriend.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 10:30:41 AM



Here's a fanart thingie I did a few years ago. ;D Classic Betty's psycho stalkerish obsession with Archie makes her perfect for the role of the crazy ex in My Super Ex-Girlfriend.


Hey, it's just like that story where Betty realized she'd never have Archie all to herself, so she decided no one else should have him either, and tries to kill him. Several times. But she keeps just missing by that much. Funny story, but a little "out there". It was amazing the things they could get away with in the 1960s.

invisifan

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 28, 2016, 06:25:10 AM
Okay, I admit that I'm just counting the Superteen stories printed in B&V and B&Me where she's the star of the story, so I'm not counting any appearances outside of those titles with The United Three, like in LIFE WITH ARCHIE #50. I'm missing that story, as well as "To the Rescue" from B&Me #5.
Yes, you mentioned them — they aren't there because (as mentioned on the old board) I hate Little Archie and they are separate enough I can ignore them — still, I've added a couple of notes to Re: SuperTeens just for archival accuracy ... :)

DeCarlo Rules

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Quote from: invisifan on April 28, 2016, 04:36:16 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 28, 2016, 06:25:10 AM
Okay, I admit that I'm just counting the Superteen stories printed in B&V and B&Me where she's the star of the story, so I'm not counting any appearances outside of those titles with The United Three, like in LIFE WITH ARCHIE #50. I'm missing that story, as well as "To the Rescue" from B&Me #5.
Yes, you mentioned them — they aren't there because (as mentioned on the old board) I hate Little Archie and they are separate enough I can ignore them — still, I've added a couple of notes to Re: SuperTeens just for archival accuracy ... :)

I think you're confusing this post I made with another in the other thread about lists, but I get what you're saying. I'm not a fan of Little Archie either, but those particular stories are so anomalous (Bolling didn't want to include Little Pureheart, but was forced to by the editor) that for those three stories I can make a small exception. Not that there's any way you can square Little Captain Pureheart with the "The PH Factor", but the Archie superhero stories are just inconsistent in and of themselves anyway, with both Pureheart and Superteen having more than one origin (dream or real?)... but maybe Little Captain Pureheart's powers extend to memory wipes as well (even including wiping his own memory), or maybe they're just a dream of Little Archie's, the way some of his more fantastical exploits turn out to be (or it's that dimensional-hopping thing with Little Ambrose going on). At any rate, the fantastical nature of the Pureheart stories gives them more in common with the Little Archie stories in general than is usually the case for standard Archie stories.

60sBettyandReggie


BlueBomber2015

I can imagine Crazy Betty with a chainsaw!

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: kassandralove on May 05, 2016, 01:04:25 AM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on May 04, 2016, 12:55:44 PM
  She was so crazy back then  :2funny:




I want more crazy Betty in new comics haha!

Another Bob Montana gag from the daily newspaper strip (often used as "Archie's Gag Bag" 1/2-page filler strips in the comic books). As I recall she tells him that she's having trouble pushing the two halves of the table together and there's something catching underneath making it stick. A lot of those crazier chase-and-capture antics of Betty's later got transferred to Big Ethel's character.

Original Sin


Original Sin








"She's wearing spurs!" ;D ;D

Also, Betty being catty about Ronnie's weight  ;D

60sBettyandReggie

Quote from: Original Sin on May 05, 2016, 06:37:16 PM







"She's wearing spurs!" ;D ;D

Also, Betty being catty about Ronnie's weight  ;D


LOL! I love that story, it's so funny. And poor Reggie  ;D

daren

Quote from: Original Sin on May 05, 2016, 06:10:13 PM






When I see stuff like this I can understand why people say the old comics were misogynist. This doesn't belong in a Villainous Veronica thread, it belongs in a sorely needed Archie Is An A-Hole thread judging from this story and the one where she's riding Reggie, although I liked that one because how could I not?  :smitten: Cute braid, Ronnie, and yes she is a little devil in that one.


DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: daren on May 06, 2016, 02:17:40 AM
When I see stuff like this I can understand why people say the old comics were misogynist. This doesn't belong in a Villainous Veronica thread, it belongs in a sorely needed Archie Is An A-Hole thread judging from this story and the one where she's riding Reggie, although I liked that one because how could I not?

Couldn't disagree more. It's perfectly justified in this case, no misogyny involved. Giving her a dose of her own medicine, and a wake-up call to reality by splashing water on her face. Ronnie can be a stuck-up little tart who thinks she's queen of the world. Usually Archie just complies like a whipped hound, a cowardly reaction only to stay in her good graces, but in this case he acts like a man for a change.

daren

The word "tart" is misogynist in itself but I'll let that pass to address the bigger issue: It is never okay for guys to shove girls around. Period. That should be very obvious.

daren

#28
And ASKING someone to wear a different coat (and it IS asking no matter how bossy she was being, she has no hold over him) is very different from grabbing someone weaker than you and SCRUBBING their face forcibly.


And wearing a coat someone else gave you isn't equal to wearing makeup someone else gave you, that's hardly identifiable.


You know if Reggie did that to her people would roast him over hot coals but when Archie does it it's just awesome. Lucky that Reggie wouldn't do that to her.

DeCarlo Rules

#29
Quote from: daren on May 06, 2016, 02:55:20 AM
And ASKING someone to wear a different coat (and it IS asking no matter how bossy she was being, she has no hold over him) is very different from grabbing someone weaker than you and SCRUBBING their face forcibly.

And wearing a coat someone else gave you isn't equal to wearing makeup someone else gave you, that's hardly identifiable.

You know if Reggie did that to her people would roast him over hot coals but when Archie does it it's just awesome. Lucky that Reggie wouldn't do that to her.

He could have shown the same backbone simply by refusing to comply with her wishes, but that wouldn't have been a funny ending ("turnabout is fair play"). He doesn't physically hurt her, only embarrass her by treating her like a petulant child, which is the way she's acting. It's a washcloth, not steel wool. It's hardly even comparable to Jughead beaning Ronnie off the back of the head with a soccer ball, and everyone thought that was hilarious. Nobody even bats an eye when Veronica picks up a stray piece of wood and whips it at Archie's head, but if he wipes the makeup off her face with a wet washcloth, then he's a misogynist brute?

It hardly matters where the coat came from. It's HIS coat, and there's nothing shabby-looking or embarrassing about him wearing it. Besides, she's insulting Betty by implication that she'd give him a gift that was trashy and not worthy of being seen in public.

Sometimes Veronica needs to be taken down a peg or two, and in this case it's perfectly appropriate. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. That's guaranteed to make her think twice the next time before she makes petty demands and expects him to roll over like a good puppy dog. She'll be furious at first of course, but ultimately she'll show him more respect, and he'll have his own self-respect. I doubt Veronica would even TRY to pull that "You're not wearing that coat" snit on Reggie. Reggie only puts up with a few minutes of the kind of treatment that Archie usually endures from Ronnie on a regular basis in "They're Off!" before funtime's over and roughly dumping her on the sidewalk, and you don't get all worked up over that.

I can't believe I'm defending ARCHIE...  but most of the time he gives me little excuse to.

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