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What would you do if you were the boss of Archie Comic Publications?

Started by nuageo, April 07, 2016, 07:42:17 PM

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invisifan

Quote from: Barbaric William Dreadbeard on May 12, 2016, 04:51:27 AM
Sell the company to Disney.
They already own Marvel ... would not be good for Archie — better off with IDW ...

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: invisifan on May 12, 2016, 06:49:19 AM
Quote from: Barbaric William Dreadbeard on May 12, 2016, 04:51:27 AM
Sell the company to Disney.
They already own Marvel ... would not be good for Archie — better off with IDW ...


I'll agree as far as better off with IDW ... but at this point Disney couldn't do any worse.

irishmoxie

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 12, 2016, 02:30:50 PM
Quote from: invisifan on May 12, 2016, 06:49:19 AM
Quote from: Barbaric William Dreadbeard on May 12, 2016, 04:51:27 AM
Sell the company to Disney.
They already own Marvel ... would not be good for Archie — better off with IDW ...


I'll agree as far as better off with IDW ... but at this point Disney couldn't do any worse.

Why is Disney doing bad?

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: irishmoxie on May 12, 2016, 05:09:50 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 12, 2016, 02:30:50 PM
Quote from: invisifan on May 12, 2016, 06:49:19 AM
Quote from: Barbaric William Dreadbeard on May 12, 2016, 04:51:27 AM
Sell the company to Disney.
They already own Marvel ... would not be good for Archie — better off with IDW ...


I'll agree as far as better off with IDW ... but at this point Disney couldn't do any worse.

Why is Disney doing bad?

Disney couldn't do any worse at running Archie Comics than Archie Comics is doing running itself right now.

Which would actually mean Marvel, since what do the people at Disney know about running a comic book company?  That's why they farm the license for classic Disney comics (Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Uncle Scrooge) out to other companies -- and the fact that Disney farms its classic characters out to IDW and Fantagraphics in the U.S. tells you that the people at Marvel don't understand those kind of comics and have no experience publishing them (although other contemporary Disney licenses -- like Haunted Mansion -- DO get published by Marvel).

All of that said, Disney/Marvel could do no worse at publishing Archie Comics than Archie's doing. In many ways, New Riverdale, Archie Horror, and Dark Circle all seem like something that Marvel would publish if they owned the characters (although Marvel would publish everything on time, and probably pay creators more, so they could afford to hire whomever they wanted). Disney would take advantage of Marvel's expertise and clout in marketing, promotion and advertising, and have the deep pockets needed to underwrite any sort of projects involving the Archie characters that they had a notion to.

IDW has proven with their various reprint projects that they respect the characters and understand what their traditional appeal is, but that's the classic characters. ACP seems to have mostly given up on the idea of new classic Archie material, apart from just keeping the digests running for however long they're able to maintain them. They seem to have accepted the idea that the sun is setting on those too, so there's no real need to maintain a flow of new stories to feed future digests. They're only generating 20 new pages of classic Archie stories a month, and the digests are consuming something like 500 story pages a month, so the digests reprints will just continue to get more and more dated. They must see the end as not too far off, say 5 years or so.


Midge Klump

First thing on my agenda would be to rehire the likes of Fernando Ruiz, Gisele, The Kennedy's, and any other Classic Artists they got rid of. Then I would get them all together with Dan Parent and say OK who wants to do the New Classic Archie series, who wants to do the New Classic Betty and Veronica series, who wants to do the New Classic Jughead series, who wants to do the New Classic Josie series, and who wants to do the new Sabrina series. Get those launched and end the rebooted stuff. I'd also put an end to the Riverdale Series on the CW. After all the Classic series are launched and successful then I would consider a new Cartoon Archie series for T.V.

Original Sin

I'd hire better writers. Even some of the most talked about issues of recent times did not have strong stories.

irishmoxie

Quote from: Original Sin on June 24, 2016, 06:08:13 PM
I'd hire better writers. Even some of the most talked about issues of recent times did not have strong stories.


Such as? Mark Waid? Chip Zdarsky?

Midge Klump

Quote from: irishmoxie on June 24, 2016, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: Original Sin on June 24, 2016, 06:08:13 PM
I'd hire better writers. Even some of the most talked about issues of recent times did not have strong stories.


Such as? Mark Waid? Chip Zdarsky?
I think a lot of these new writers are overrated. They in my opinion can't compare to the old Classic Writers of Archie Comics who brought the quick gags and laughter with every story. It's just not the same anymore.

Original Sin

Quote from: irishmoxie on June 24, 2016, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: Original Sin on June 24, 2016, 06:08:13 PM
I'd hire better writers. Even some of the most talked about issues of recent times did not have strong stories.


Such as? Mark Waid? Chip Zdarsky?

I don't really know much about who the good writers in today's comic book world are. But I would like someone who can create good slapstick comedy, and teen romance.

chancebond

Quote from: Midge Klump on June 24, 2016, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: irishmoxie on June 24, 2016, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: Original Sin on June 24, 2016, 06:08:13 PM
I'd hire better writers. Even some of the most talked about issues of recent times did not have strong stories.


Such as? Mark Waid? Chip Zdarsky?
I think a lot of these new writers are overrated. They in my opinion can't compare to the old Classic Writers of Archie Comics who brought the quick gags and laughter with every story. It's just not the same anymore.

I completely agree M.K!  I wish we had another B.B instead of M.W or C.Z.  Don't get me wrong, I respect both M.W and C.Z, but I miss the classics!

Midge Klump

Quote from: The Downloader on June 24, 2016, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: Midge Klump on June 24, 2016, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: irishmoxie on June 24, 2016, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: Original Sin on June 24, 2016, 06:08:13 PM
I'd hire better writers. Even some of the most talked about issues of recent times did not have strong stories.


Such as? Mark Waid? Chip Zdarsky?
I think a lot of these new writers are overrated. They in my opinion can't compare to the old Classic Writers of Archie Comics who brought the quick gags and laughter with every story. It's just not the same anymore.

I completely agree M.K!  I wish we had another B.B instead of M.W or C.Z.  Don't get me wrong, I respect both M.W and C.Z, but I miss the classics!
Writers like Bob Bolling and Frank Doyle are amazing and are impossible to replace or improve on. Even more current Artist/Writers like Dan Parent and Fernando Ruiz are extremely hard to impossible to replace.

Musical_Necromancer

Quote from: Original Sin on June 24, 2016, 07:22:07 PM
Quote from: irishmoxie on June 24, 2016, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: Original Sin on June 24, 2016, 06:08:13 PM
I'd hire better writers. Even some of the most talked about issues of recent times did not have strong stories.


Such as? Mark Waid? Chip Zdarsky?

I don't really know much about who the good writers in today's comic book world are. But I would like someone who can create good slapstick comedy, and teen romance.

problem is slapstick comedy isn't that popular in the modern age and teen romance has become worn out from all the teen drama's that were on television

it's hard to get most comic readers to care about a horny redhead boy's mission to try and have two girlfriends


DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: Midge Klump on June 24, 2016, 04:19:20 PM
First thing on my agenda would be to rehire the likes of Fernando Ruiz, Gisele, The Kennedy's, and any other Classic Artists they got rid of. Then I would get them all together with Dan Parent and say OK who wants to do the New Classic Archie series, who wants to do the New Classic Betty and Veronica series, who wants to do the New Classic Jughead series, who wants to do the New Classic Josie series, and who wants to do the new Sabrina series. Get those launched and end the rebooted stuff. I'd also put an end to the Riverdale Series on the CW. After all the Classic series are launched and successful then I would consider a new Cartoon Archie series for T.V.

Wow, I like the way this girl thinks. Too bad she left.  :(

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 29, 2016, 03:25:47 AM
it's hard to get most comic readers to care about a horny redhead boy's mission to try and have two girlfriends

Point taken. I was always more interested in Betty & Veronica's antics without Archie always hanging around. But if anything, I care about him less NOW as New Archie than I did when he was Old Archie. At least Old Archie was funny sometimes.

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