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When Betty and Reggie team up

Started by Original Sin, April 27, 2016, 03:41:45 PM

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60sBettyandReggie


Okay, the girl Reggie is kissing is Betty, right?(It's not just some random blonde). I just saw this on a Jughead cover and it makes me so happy! ;D









Anyone has more pics of the two of them kissing, or even just hugging?? Beside the For One Brief Moment, there's almost no B&R dating  :tickedoff:

DeCarlo Rules

I just read an old issue of ARCHIE & FRIENDS where B&V think that Archie's putting the moves on Midge (SPOILER: They're actually practicing lines for the school play, "Romeo & Juliet"), so B&V conspire with Moose to make Archie jealous, and help him get back at Midge. But after being kissed by MOOSE, Betty falls into a swoon, and later on, despite Veronica's reluctance to go along with the plot, after he kisses her, she goes all melty, too. In a not-too-unforeseen last panel gag, Reggie gets beat up by Moose again, even though he only showed up in the story 2 panels earlier.

BettyReggie


60sBettyandReggie




Okay, I'll just imagine that these two skipped school to be together all day  :smitten:

DeCarlo Rules

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Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on March 18, 2017, 01:23:34 AM


Okay, I'll just imagine that these two skipped school to be together all day  :smitten:

I'd imagine that Reggie finds all kinds of reasons for his occasional truancy that have nothing to do with Betty, who wouldn't dream of skipping a day of school unless she was legitimately too sick to attend classes, which is why of all the gang, Betty probably has the best GPA of anyone short of Dilton Doily.

And of course, it's entirely possible that there was some virus going around and Reggie was legitimately sick as well -- or even more likely, legitimately recuperating from the latest beating given to him by Moose.

I guess you could always hope for the improbable circumstance that any time two people scheduled to be in the same place at the same time both fail to show up, it means that they're both off somewhere making mad passionate love to each other - and who knows, it might even be the statistically most-likely explanation for the Riverdale TV series, like for example if for some reason both Archie and Ms. Grundy failed to attend a scheduled day of classes at RHS.  ;D I'd still say Riverdale represents the shippers' best bet for revisiting that "one brief moment" (BETTY #43, Nov. '96) between Riverdale's resident bad boy and the 'teen queen supreme' (as long as Betty doesn't forget herself and blurt out something like "Your plan worked, Reggie!").

Upsiditus

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 28, 2016, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 01:48:59 PM
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Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 11:28:44 AM
Pairing someone like Betty with someone like Adam maybe nice in real life, but it's not very entertaining in a comic book setting.

And that's why she'll forever be obsessed with a guy like Archie, who isn't worth her time in real life. My point here is that Betty doesn't need anyone to "bring out her best in her". She already IS the best. She can cook, she can sew, she can fix a car. She can race cars. She can ski, surf, play baseball or basketball as well or better than any teenager. She's an A student. She can write. She reads a lot and is smart and well informed. She good at gardening, crafts, or just about any activity she tries her hand at or sets her mind to. She's pretty, in great shape, and looks good in anything she wears. She's got more talent in her little finger than Veronica has in her whole body. She's funny and fun to be with, and cares about animals and people, and about the things in life that really matter, not just the superficial stuff. Veronica has looks and money, and that's all she really needs. She's not dumb, but it wouldn't really matter if she was. She's got all she needs to get by in life. Betty wasn't born with money, but she's a real do-it-yourselfer who can make the best of any situation. She can do just about anything - except win the love of an idiot who's too dumb to appreciate her. All Betty really needs to do is realize there there are some things in life that aren't worth doing, like chasing Archie. She's just got to stop wasting her time with jerks who don't appreciate how exceptional she really is, and start dating guys who treat her how she deserves to be treated. But I guess that wouldn't be entertaining, so she dates Archie instead.

Imbibing Betty with every virtue and talent under the sun is not a good thing. She would be much more interesting if she was not so perfect.

An entertaining comic character does not necessarily have to be crazy about Archie.


And being crazy about Archie is exactly what makes her not perfect. That's the very imperfection about her that makes her fans crazy, because she'd have to be crazy to put up with him.

Yes, I agree, that's what made her entertaining back in the day, and was fodder for so many great stories. However, the love triangle has already given us everything it could have. Every possible idea that can come from it has been hashed, rehashed, reused, recycled. It ceased to be funny a long time ago.


Archie is Betty's kryptonite. Without it, she, like Superman, would be perfect. However, you don't see Superman go looking for kryptonite to weaken him. If he did, you'd have to think that there was something seriously wrong with Superman.


But here's the thing you have to realize. The entire 75-year history of Archie Comics hinges on this one, impossible, monstrously irrational premise. Without Betty's obsession for Archie, she's perfect, finds a great guy who appreciates her, lives happily (and boringly, to the readers) ever after. Veronica, without Betty to compete with over Archie, loses all interest in him. What is there about Archie to possibly interest Veronica? NOTHING. She's not interested in him, she's interested in beating Betty, because Betty's the best, and obviously the only worthy challenger to Veronica. So without that triangle, no Archie Comics.


    The newspaper strips (which I generally don't particularly like) rarely dealt with the love triangle. 

Upsiditus

Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 01:00:19 AM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 02, 2016, 08:47:54 PM
There should be more Reggie & Betty kissing panels/stories  >:(


You guys know that I am not in favor of CW's Riverdale show, but if they were to make Reggie & Betty a couple, I think maybe, probably they could win me over with that  :-[


Quote from: BettyReggie on June 02, 2016, 09:11:10 PM
I looked up RiverDale on the Internet Movie Data Base & it said Reggie will only be in 16 episodes.The other will be in 23 episodes . And Reggie wasn't even shown in the trailer. So I hope they do put them together.




You guys are way more flexible than me, I don't want this clown show going near my favorite couples.




Heres a cute ad with Betty and Reggie for one of their stories.






Since when is Reggie with Jughead?


Upsiditus

Quote from: daren on June 13, 2016, 01:40:46 AM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 07, 2016, 06:39:36 PM

Don't get me wrong. I am still against the CW's show. I don't like it one bit, but I think, for me, a Betty/Reggie pairing would be the only redeemable thing. And I am still pissed off at Reggie's casting choice.


I don't like the casting either, Reggie should have a sharp edge to his looks and this guy is like a junior Brendan Fraser or something, he has all the menace of a giant panda. I'm sure he's a nice guy and maybe he's a good actor but to me he's not Reggie. But I think his Reggie might be a good match for Betty since he has such a "nice guy vibe."  :)






Here's a story where Reggie isn't nice to Betty like he usually is but I thought it was funny and it's a story I would be okay with my favorite couples in so I hope no one minds. Besides it goes with the jerk Jughead story I posted in the Jughead Veronica thread.





































  The writer of that story made a big mistake by giving a monetary amount.  People reading that story today (and in the future) will think Reggie is being extremely cheap when at the time it was written that wouldn't have been the case.

DeCarlo Rules

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Quote from: Upsiditus on March 19, 2017, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 01:00:19 AM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 02, 2016, 08:47:54 PM
There should be more Reggie & Betty kissing panels/stories  >:(


You guys know that I am not in favor of CW's Riverdale show, but if they were to make Reggie & Betty a couple, I think maybe, probably they could win me over with that  :-[


Quote from: BettyReggie on June 02, 2016, 09:11:10 PM
I looked up RiverDale on the Internet Movie Data Base & it said Reggie will only be in 16 episodes.The other will be in 23 episodes . And Reggie wasn't even shown in the trailer. So I hope they do put them together.




You guys are way more flexible than me, I don't want this clown show going near my favorite couples.




Heres a cute ad with Betty and Reggie for one of their stories.






Since when is Reggie with Jughead?

Since this:


The t-shirts were manufactured as part of a tie-in to a 3-part story, "Civil Chore", in TALES FROM RIVERDALE DIGEST #22-24 (2007) -- a mini-parody of Marvel Comics' then-concurrent Avengers-centric/Marvel Universe-wide crossover event, "Civil War". In ACP's version of the story, friendships among the Riverdale teens are divided across lines according to whether or not they agree with Archie, who has decided to start a campaign among teens to go on strike and refuse to perform any family chores until given raises in their allowances. Jughead disagrees with Archie's plan, and for various reasons of their own, both Reggie and Veronica side with Jughead, while Betty, Chuck and Dilton (among others) side with Archie. The split between Archie and Jughead mirrored a similar case of irreconcilable differences of philosophical belief between The Avengers' Iron Man and Captain America, over the U.S. government's Super-Human Registration Act, which required all costumed/superpowered individuals to maintain accountability to the public by registering their true identities with the proper authorities, and submit to or support training programs and a hierarchical system to deploy superhuman resources in emergency/crisis management situations. Iron Man supported the SHRA as the responsible thing to do, while Captain America was opposed to the Act as a violation of the individual's right to privacy and civil liberties.

DeCarlo Rules

#129
Quote from: Upsiditus on March 19, 2017, 09:11:17 PM
The newspaper strips (which I generally don't particularly like) rarely dealt with the love triangle.  [/font]

Unless the strips were continued, it was hard to deal with that plot in the space of a weekly Sunday page, much less a 3- or 4-panel daily strip. That said, the earliest version of the Archie comic strip, after a short period of establishing itself, began a sort of loose continuity of connected daily gags that more or less formed an ongoing storyline. One of the earliest of those involved a 'triangle' story of sorts, with Archie and Betty invited along with the Lodges on a visit to Mr. Lodge's old college alma mater. The 'triangle' in the 1940s through the mid-1960s wasn't really a triangle at all -- it was the much simpler "Betty chases Archie/Archie chases Veronica/Veronica doesn't want Archie so much as she wants to be wanted by Archie", similar to the early Superman/Lois/Clark premise -- Clark loves Lois who spurns him, while Lois loves Superman who ignores her; Superman/Clark wants to be loved by Lois not for his perfect true self, but for his fake, fallible self.

DeCarlo Rules

#130
Quote from: Upsiditus on March 19, 2017, 09:34:08 PM
The writer of that story made a big mistake by giving a monetary amount.  People reading that story today (and in the future) will think Reggie is being extremely cheap when at the time it was written that wouldn't have been the case.[/font]

Seems like you're missing the point. The amount of money Betty needs to borrow to pay Pop for the price of a meal is irrelevant. The point is how Reggie treats Betty in the story, how he ridicules and belittles her, and impugns her as a typical example of her gender. None of that matters as far as whether the amount in question that Betty was short and needed to borrow was $1.10 or $8.75, because the matter has nothing to do with whether Reggie can afford the money or not. He doesn't need to check his wallet. Betty forgets her money at home, but instead of human empathy for making an honest mistake, or a sympathetic helping hand from a nominal friend, she's berated by Reggie as a being public leech, and by extension, her entire sex. Reggie is a selfish egomaniac who enjoys lording it over an unfortunate victim of circumstance, and he's a chauvinist pig to boot.

VintageJon

#131
Ha.  I actually remember that story!  Betty is too sweet for Reggie.  Personally, I would only want to see them together if he improved himself to get a girl of her caliber. 

60sBettyandReggie

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on March 18, 2017, 04:58:53 AM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on March 18, 2017, 01:23:34 AM


Okay, I'll just imagine that these two skipped school to be together all day  :smitten:

I'd imagine that Reggie finds all kinds of reasons for his occasional truancy that have nothing to do with Betty, who wouldn't dream of skipping a day of school unless she was legitimately too sick to attend classes, which is why of all the gang, Betty probably has the best GPA of anyone short of Dilton Doily.

And of course, it's entirely possible that there was some virus going around and Reggie was legitimately sick as well -- or even more likely, legitimately recuperating from the latest beating given to him by Moose.

I guess you could always hope for the improbable circumstance that any time two people scheduled to be in the same place at the same time both fail to show up, it means that they're both off somewhere making mad passionate love to each other - and who knows, it might even be the statistically most-likely explanation for the Riverdale TV series, like for example if for some reason both Archie and Ms. Grundy failed to attend a scheduled day of classes at RHS.  ;D I'd still say Riverdale represents the shippers' best bet for revisiting that "one brief moment" (BETTY #43, Nov. '96) between Riverdale's resident bad boy and the 'teen queen supreme' (as long as Betty doesn't forget herself and blurt out something like "Your plan worked, Reggie!").


::) You know, when I made that post I actually thought "I have the feeling DeCarlo Rules is gonna come and rain on my parade" and, boom, sure enough you did  ;D You are always so matter of fact. Remember that I specifically said "I'll just imagine that these two skipped school to be together all day". Who cares if they didn't actually  skipped school together and spent the day by themselves!? I'm just imagining here, you know, fantasizing. You should try it sometime  ;)

Like I mentioned a while back, for me the only way I would actually tolerate Riverdale would be if they put Reggie and Betty together (but even then I would hate the show and just like that pairing) but that is never going to happen. Reggie is non-existent on the show and they already paired Betty up with Jughead, so Riverdale is actually not Betty/Reggie shippers' best bet :-\


DeCarlo Rules

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Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on March 22, 2017, 01:34:45 PM
::) You know, when I made that post I actually thought "I have the feeling DeCarlo Rules is gonna come and rain on my parade" and, boom, sure enough you did  ;D You are always so matter of fact. Remember that I specifically said "I'll just imagine that these two skipped school to be together all day". Who cares if they didn't actually  skipped school together and spent the day by themselves!? I'm just imagining here, you know, fantasizing. You should try it sometime  ;)

Like I mentioned a while back, for me the only way I would actually tolerate Riverdale would be if they put Reggie and Betty together (but even then I would hate the show and just like that pairing) but that is never going to happen. Reggie is non-existent on the show and they already paired Betty up with Jughead, so Riverdale is actually not Betty/Reggie shippers' best bet :-\

What can I say. The very idea that so delights you, sends shivers down my spine and makes me cringe, because regardless of how irked Archie's behavior towards Betty sometimes make me feel, pairing her up with Reggie instead seems like inflicting a punishment upon her far far worse, which she's done nothing to deserve -- the "Punishment Plus" story that was just posted being an excellent example.

Even beyond the two specific characters involved, this particular shipping fantasy is representative generically of what I feel is the most pernicious myth that females as a gender seem to hold -- that "bad boys" can be saved or changed (or that there's really a heart of gold buried deep deep down beneath the uncivilized exterior) by the true love of that one special woman (in effect, she has magic powers to alter reality to her own liking). That particular archetypal myth has probably been one of the greatest sources of heartbreak and human misery throughout the ages, and it's why battered women's shelters are always full. The sad reality is that people really don't change. It just makes me really sad.

And you know what, I can't help the way I feel about it. Among the Gang of Five, Betty is my favorite character. She's a sweet girl, and I'd like to believe that she deserves that kind of "happily ever after" ending that good karma earned for her. But whenever I see it brought up, my immediate visceral reaction to the B/R fantasy is one of muted horror, followed by "That poor, poor girl." So who should she walk off into the sunset with? I honestly don't know. Adam is probably the best candidate. Yeah, boring old Adam. The way I see it, other people's happiness probably looks pretty boring to the rest of us.

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