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« on: December 14, 2010, 12:15:31 PM »
Anybody know anything about the cover story to Giant Josie and the Pussycats 72, Oct 1973?


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Re: giant josie and the pussycats 72?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2010, 09:37:29 PM »
Since you're looking to buy a copy, maybe you no longer want any spoilers.  :) But if you still want to know what the story's about...

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Josie, Melody and Valerie accompany Alexandra to her family mausoleum.  Her grandfather has died a month before, and she's lying flowers on his coffin.  Josie wanders one level deeper into the crypt and is overcome by "an invisible, malignant presence" that changes her personality.  Valerie is the only one who notices the change, and follows Josie into the Cabot mansion...where Josie attempts to burn it down!  What follows is a rather intense (for Archie Comics) exorcism sequence involving an out-of-her-mind Josie spouting (implied) profanities while the others pin her down and use a bible to cleanse the spirit from her body.  Mr. Cabot explains that the lower level of the crypt was the resting place of Great Aunt Julia, who "lived and died a hate-filled, vindictive old maid ... threatening to the very end, vengeance and destruction!"

They use the word "hell" a lot more than you'd expect.  :)

This story was published in Oct. 1973, and The Exorcist came out in Dec. 1973.  I'm sure they were running ads for Exorcist all through the second half of 1973...the timing of this story probably isn't a coincidence.  (Also the novel was released in 1971.)
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Re: giant josie and the pussycats 72?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 09:17:54 AM »
Quote from: RiverPhoenixDale on December 14, 2010, 09:37:29 PM
Since you're looking to buy a copy, maybe you no longer want any spoilers.  :) But if you still want to know what the story's about...

...

...

...

...

Josie, Melody and Valerie accompany Alexandra to her family mausoleum.  Her grandfather has died a month before, and she's lying flowers on his coffin.  Josie wanders one level deeper into the crypt and is overcome by "an invisible, malignant presence" that changes her personality.  Valerie is the only one who notices the change, and follows Josie into the Cabot mansion...where Josie attempts to burn it down!  What follows is a rather intense (for Archie Comics) exorcism sequence involving an out-of-her-mind Josie spouting (implied) profanities while the others pin her down and use a bible to cleanse the spirit from her body.  Mr. Cabot explains that the lower level of the crypt was the resting place of Great Aunt Julia, who "lived and died a hate-filled, vindictive old maid ... threatening to the very end, vengeance and destruction!"

They use the word "hell" a lot more than you'd expect.  :)

This story was published in Oct. 1973, and The Exorcist came out in Dec. 1973.  I'm sure they were running ads for Exorcist all through the second half of 1973...the timing of this story probably isn't a coincidence.  (Also the novel was released in 1971.)
Hmmm...who wrote/drew it?
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Re: giant josie and the pussycats 72?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 09:53:47 AM »
Quote from: Bosda on December 15, 2010, 09:17:54 AM

Hmmm...who wrote/drew it?

If the cover artist is the same as the interior, that's penciled by Stan Goldberg.
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Re: giant josie and the pussycats 72?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 11:58:24 AM »
Yes, it's Stan Goldberg.

I don't know who the writer is - Frank Doyle wrote a lot of the gothic/horror stories the Archie gang found themselves in in the early '70s, but this one doesn't always quite seem like his style, so it might be one of the writers who was working on Archie's horror comics.
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Re: giant josie and the pussycats 72?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2010, 09:37:51 PM »
Quote from: Bosda on December 14, 2010, 12:15:31 PM
Anybody know anything about the cover story to Giant Josie and the Pussycats 72, Oct 1973?




...How " Giant " is this ?
  Is this just the standard 32 pages , with Archie just calling it " Giat " beacuse - um , they can:-) !!??!!??!!!
  I seem to recall that 20c was the standard throughout 1973 for the standard 32-pager , and , therefore , Archie might've been trying to publish a 48-pager - Even a 40-pager ????????? - at 25c ???????????
  I remember that , by later in the 70s , the " Archie Giant/Quarter Series " rotating one-shot series kept that technical title even past  a " quarter " not being the price for any kind of Giant-size comic book anymore , but even past 25c being the price for a normal one - In the 70s there were ENDLESS teeny-tiny price raises , Marvel or DC would go up 5 or 10 cents , the other one would put:
" STILL (the lower price) "
on their comics' covers for a few months - then rise to the higher price .
  It was 70s inflation ! Believe me , I lived through it !!!!!!!!!
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Re: giant josie and the pussycats 72?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2010, 09:45:45 PM »
Quote from: John Asperger on December 15, 2010, 09:37:51 PM
...How " Giant " is this ?
  Is this just the standard 32 pages , with Archie just calling it " Giat " beacuse - um , they can:-) !!??!!??!!!

52 pages. Starting around 1971, Archie expanded most of its titles to 52 page "Giants" (while cutting back the titles that had been longer than that, like Pals n' Gals, to 52 as well). This was done, probably, so they could justify raising the price of these titles to 25 cents: you're paying much more, but you're getting more stories.

The only titles that kept the usual 36-page formats were the core titles like Archie, Betty and Veronica, Jughead, and Life With Archie. Also, the new title introduced around this time, Archie at Riverdale High, was 36. But just about everything else -- Josie, Betty and Me, Reggie and Me, Archie and Me, Sabrina, That Wilkin Boy, Madhouse Glads -- went to 52 pages.

After inflation meant they had to start charging 25 cents for regular-sized titles, Archie converted all the titles back to 36 pages. Even "Archie Giant Series" went to 36 pages, meaning it was never "Giant" again.
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Re: giant josie and the pussycats 72?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2010, 10:01:36 PM »
Quote from: addisonian on December 15, 2010, 09:45:45 PM
Quote from: John Asperger on December 15, 2010, 09:37:51 PM
...How " Giant " is this ?
  Is this just the standard 32 pages , with Archie just calling it " Giat " beacuse - um , they can:-) !!??!!??!!!


...Okay , thank you , I'd forgotten that .
  Did it appear then that the additional 12-15 pages of material added by going to 48 was reprints ( As with the year-ish in 1972 when all of DC's titles went to 48 . ) , primarily ? New ?
  As you can see , WE DISAGREE on whether to count the covers as " pages " in this sort of categorizing - We likely disagree on whether the roll or toilet paper should be hung with the paper dropping off the front of back ( THE FRONT ) of the roll , too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe we should cross each other off the list of " potential roomates " , then .
  Or , maybe not...???

52 pages. Starting around 1971, Archie expanded most of its titles to 52 page "Giants" (while cutting back the titles that had been longer than that, like Pals n' Gals, to 52 as well). This was done, probably, so they could justify raising the price of these titles to 25 cents: you're paying much more, but you're getting more stories.

The only titles that kept the usual 36-page formats were the core titles like Archie, Betty and Veronica, Jughead, and Life With Archie. Also, the new title introduced around this time, Archie at Riverdale High, was 36. But just about everything else -- Josie, Betty and Me, Reggie and Me, Archie and Me, Sabrina, That Wilkin Boy, Madhouse Glads -- went to 52 pages.

After inflation meant they had to start charging 25 cents for regular-sized titles, Archie converted all the titles back to 36 pages. Even "Archie Giant Series" went to 36 pages, meaning it was never "Giant" again.
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Re: giant josie and the pussycats 72?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2010, 10:48:55 PM »
In most of them the extra space was filled by doing either more stories, or longer stories (more 11 and 12 page stories) as well as more one-page gags and pin-ups.

There were a couple of titles that had some reprints -- "Betty and Me" started reprinting one story per issue, and Josie filled out a couple of issues with reprinted stories -- but there weren't that many. Mostly they were just turning out a ton of material.
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