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Offline archiecomicsfan27

Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« on: January 07, 2008, 06:09:24 PM »
I just found two grammatical errors in Jughead's Double Digest # 136's story Buccaneer Buds. It's a new story written by George Gladir and in the first bubble Archie says, "Heave to, my laddies and lassies! Our librarian...Ms. Hoskins...has asked my friends and me to put on an historical costume show for you!"
I've bolded and underlines the two errors I've found.
Can anyone share any mistakes they've seen?
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Offline AyaBlue

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 06:28:47 PM »
You mean, besides Ethel looking a lot like Betty or Veronica on the cover? :)
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Offline Captain Hero

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 10:07:07 PM »
Not so much grammatical, but when Jughead falls down and sprains his ankle in one story, Archie asks, How's the ankle, RON?
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Offline archieandme

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 10:12:28 PM »
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Ms. Hoskins...has asked my friends and me to put on an historical costume show for you!"

I think that first one is correct.  It's "my friends and I" as a subject but "my friends and me" when the usage is as an object of the verb. When I was a kid we were taught to test the usage by eliiminating the "So and so and..." to see if the phrase still sounded correct.
In this case, "Ms. Hoskins has asked me to put on ...," which is correct.  You would not say "she has asked I to put on a show."  Therefore, adding my friends and... still requires the use of "me." 

I don't like the use of "an historical" because you usually use "a" in front of a consonant and "an" in front of a vowell.  This is done all the time with words like history but it bugs me.

Oh no, I sound like a nit picky grammar teacher, or Miss Grundy.
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Offline VeronicaFan

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 10:45:21 PM »
No offense:  but those are not grammatical errors.  "me" is the object of the verb "asked."  "An" being used instead of "a"  is acceptable, but there is some debate on which usage is correct.     We're more familiar with using "an" instead of "a" with words using silent "h" such as "hour,"  but it is acceptable to use "an" before the word "historical." 

Here are some links:

http://grammartips.homestead.com/historical.html

http://www.alphadictionary.com/articles/drgw007.html

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/591/01/ 

Have fun!   ;)

--VeronicaFan
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Offline archiecomicsfan27

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 10:57:53 PM »
Oh I never knew that...well you learn something everyday, it just doesn't sound right 'an historical'
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Offline ronnie343

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2008, 01:56:47 PM »
Quote from: archiecomicsfan27 on January 07, 2008, 10:57:53 PM
Oh I never knew that...well you learn something everyday, it just doesn't sound right 'an historical'
Doesn't sound right either.
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Offline VeronicaFan

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2008, 10:57:18 PM »
I tend to like how "an historical" sounds, because I tend to glide right through the "h" in "historical."  I think that "a" sounds better with "history," mainly because I tend to pronounce that "h."  In the case of "a" or "an" with the word "historical," I guess we like what our ears are used to.

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Offline Tuxedo Mark

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2008, 08:35:59 AM »
Quote from: archiecomicsfan27 on January 07, 2008, 06:09:24 PM
Ms. Hoskins...has asked my friends and me

This is not an error. It's grammatically correct.

The rule is to use whichever word would make sense on its own.

"Ms. Hoskins has asked me" is correct. "Ms. Hoskins has asked I" is not correct. Therefore, "Ms. Hoskins has asked my friends and me" is correct.

I do agree that "an historian" is absolutely wrong. Even Star Trek uses it.
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Offline Tuxedo Mark

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2008, 08:40:16 AM »
Quote from: VeronicaFan on January 07, 2008, 10:45:21 PM
but it is acceptable to use "an" before the word "historical." 

Absolutely not.

The rule is to use "an" before words that SOUND like they begin with a vowel. In "hour", the "h" is silent, so "an hour" is correct.

In "historian", the "h" is clearly heard, so "a historian" is correct.
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Offline archiecomicsfan27

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2008, 03:49:14 PM »
Quote from: Tuxedo Mark on January 10, 2008, 08:35:59 AM
Quote from: archiecomicsfan27 on January 07, 2008, 06:09:24 PM
Ms. Hoskins...has asked my friends and me

This is not an error. It's grammatically correct.

The rule is to use whichever word would make sense on its own.

"Ms. Hoskins has asked me" is correct. "Ms. Hoskins has asked I" is not correct. Therefore, "Ms. Hoskins has asked my friends and me" is correct.

I do agree that "an historian" is absolutely wrong. Even Star Trek uses it.

For this one I didn't want it to say "Ms. Hoskins has asked I" I wanted it to say "Ms. Hoskins has asked my friends and I"
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Offline Tuxedo Mark

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2008, 05:48:24 PM »
Quote from: archiecomicsfan27 on January 10, 2008, 03:49:14 PM
For this one I didn't want it to say "Ms. Hoskins has asked I" I wanted it to say "Ms. Hoskins has asked my friends and I"

So are you saying you typed your example wrong?

What does the comic's text actually say?
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Offline archiecomicsfan27

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2008, 05:57:29 PM »
it says:Ms. Hoskins...has asked my friends and me
but shouldn't it say: Ms. Hoskins...has asked my friends and I
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Offline Tuxedo Mark

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2008, 07:30:08 PM »
Quote from: archiecomicsfan27 on January 10, 2008, 05:57:29 PM
it says:Ms. Hoskins...has asked my friends and me
but shouldn't it say: Ms. Hoskins...has asked my friends and I

No, it shouldn't.
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Offline VeronicaFan

Re: Grammar Errors in Archie Comics
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2008, 08:11:19 PM »
Quote from: Tuxedo Mark on January 10, 2008, 08:40:16 AM
Quote from: VeronicaFan on January 07, 2008, 10:45:21 PM
but it is acceptable to use "an" before the word "historical." 

Absolutely not.

The rule is to use "an" before words that SOUND like they begin with a vowel. In "hour", the "h" is silent, so "an hour" is correct.

In "historian", the "h" is clearly heard, so "a historian" is correct.

Tuxedo Mark:  Did you read the links I provided? It is acceptable to use either "an" or "a" before "historical." This is an  exception to the general rule.   The reasons are somewhat complex, so I won't repeat  them here.   I'm not going to continue commenting on this, since you seem to think there is an absolute answer to a question that even experienced grammarians cannot agree on. 
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