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« on: January 11, 2007, 08:42:14 PM »

I used to watch the Archie cartoons on TV when I was a little girl back in the 1970s!

I remember the rock sequences and everything. Hey, and the "Brady Kids" even blatantly copied from the Archie cartoon (the brown dog is REALLY Hot Dog after a paint job! idiot2 )

Then I got a few Archie comic books a little later on. I remember Big Ethel grabbing Jughead and devouring his face as well as the Archie friends wearing pirate eyepatches in a school band.

It wasn't until I was in junior high when my sister and I began regularly collecting and laughing over Archie digest comics. I was SO impressed by the artwork and the humor when I first saw a digest book shared by a friend (when she got it for Christmas, BTW.)

My interest in Archie comics eventually fell when I was a senior in high school (a friend said that this stuff are for kids, BTW.) And it didn't pick up until a few years into college, when a girl led me her Archie comics while I was staying in New York City for Thanksgiving break. I bought a few, but not many. What's more, I thought the dated look in some of the comics looked...well, cheesy (ALL Archie characters wearing the same kind of sweater with white collar on top. Roll Eyes ) and the fashion from bygone days looking pretty gross on the girls, too (especially during the 1960s and 1970s...shudder!)

I transferred to another college and the convenience store there carried Archie comics, so naturally, my interest was rekindled and fell once again, especially of the silly "kiddie" ads flooring the pages.

Finally, a new supermarket opened in late 2002 and it carried Archie comics, so now I am hooked "for good". Smiley Didn't mind the vintage look on the girls' clothes now - in fact, it looks classic.

Oh, and just this Christmas, my sister gave me a copy of Archie comic book with the new Katy Keene story in it. She said she wanted to get me a subscription for Archie comics, BTW.^_^
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2007, 10:05:18 AM »

I grew up on it too. My mother started buying me Jugheads, (plus the cartoon series, which I have never been able to get in NYC. As soon as our cable system got whater channel was playing it, and the rest of the Filmation stuff, it would be pulled from the air! crazy2) and I kept seeing the avertisements for the big digests, so I had my parents send away for a couple of them (Including the first "Jughead with Archie, Plus Betty and Veronica, Plus Reggie Too, which I believe I still have), then when I was around 10, and could start buying them for myself; I went and got a bunch of stuff from the local bookstore. It soon burned down (and it was all the paper that fueled the fire that took out the whole row of stores), but I was then able to get a bunch, though charred or logged with sooty water) for free.
I shared them with a friend of mine, who loaned them to someone else who never gave a bunch of them back. But I still have many of them from over 30 years ago.

This was the heyday for Samm Schwartz, who had such a flair to his style. In the Feb.77 Jughead, though, his style seemed to lose its edge, and I lived off of the old ones and eventually lost interest until my teens, when my interest was renewed by a 1983 PEP. It contained an ad for Jughead #331, and I wanted to see what it was like "these days", so I sent away for it, and it appeared Schwartz had gotten some of his edge back (It seems for a few years in between, someone else was doing the Jugheads, and he had just come back from a hiatus). So I would buy new comics off and on, until 1987, when they decided to restart the Jughead series from scratch, and Schwartz was gone for good. Archie was never the same since.

I also remember the first Archie magazine my mother gave me, which at the stime was still being done by Harry Lucey. I could not even recognize Reggie at first, with his curly hair. But it was interesting to see such a totally different interpretation of the characters. It reminded me of the pre-1959 Peanuts (which was the other comic series I was heavily into as a child) where the characters were drawn completely different. He later disappeared, (and it was hard to even find out what his name was, because he was long gone by the time in the 80's when the artists' names were printed on the title page), and it was in recent years I realized a long time quest to find out what his version of Ethel and Jughead's mother looked like. Since Lucey did mostly Archie comics, you only saw Jughead in his dealings with Archie, and did not see his own supporting characters. So I had never seen his version of those two characters. But in an old comic book store which had a large Archie selection, I found a 1974 Jughead that was done by Lucey, and it had a story with both his mother and Ethel at the same time (the, as I figured, looked very silimar to one another). It was actually a story where Jughead was being mean to Ethel, but his mother gets him to be nice to her. (The first Jugheads I had gotten as a child, were 1975, and Schwartz was doing them again).
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2007, 10:49:55 AM »

Hey, another Samm Schwartz fan! I love his stuff. Are you still reading/buying Archie comics today? You seem pretty knowledgeable about the comics. I didn't recognize the name Harry Lucey, but I instantly recognized his style:

http://lambiek.net/artists/l/lucey_harry.htm

I loved his smooth lines and the way his art style was so distinct from everyone else.

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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2007, 01:21:03 PM »

wow!!! HAD NO IDEA THIS SITE EVEN EXISTED!!!

I'm going to have to spend hours looking through it. That it addition to Jerry Bails site (www.bailsprojects.com) should make it easier to find uncredited Archie artists...

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2007, 09:41:23 AM »

Hey, another Samm Schwartz fan! I love his stuff. Are you still reading/buying Archie comics today? You seem pretty knowledgeable about the comics. I didn't recognize the name Harry Lucey, but I instantly recognized his style:

http://lambiek.net/artists/l/lucey_harry.htm

I loved his smooth lines and the way his art style was so distinct from everyone else.

Jim

I'll peak at Archie magazines to see "what's going on" from time to time, but without the old artists, it's just not the same. They made the series for me. (Everything now is done in the style of Dan Decarlo, and from what I have seen so far, all looks the same).

The link said that Lucey died in the "late 80's"; but I thought he had died right then in 1976-7, when his artwork in Archie suddenly ceased. I also looked up Samm Schwartz, and it says he worked for Archie until his death in 1997. But I stopped seeing his artwork for good in 1987. Is this site getting these dates wrong?

Lucey's style was distinguished by the shapes of the mouths. Also, the girls had thicker eyelashes. That's why I always wondered what Ethel would look like by him. And then Archie with his hands on both sides of his head, you are always seeing.
I'm reminded of Lucey in the daily papers when I see the "One Big Happy" strip. It looks just like his style, with the mouths and all. http://joshreads.com/images/0611/i061110obh.gif (It is drawn so much in the style of Archie; especially the eyes.
George Gladir's style also looked a bit like Lucey's at times.
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