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"Life With Kevin" digital series announced for June 2016!

Started by JonInIowaCity, April 12, 2016, 09:51:48 AM

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irishmoxie

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I'm trying to only buy digital now. I already have an entire room dedicated to comics. I only try to buy physical copies of stuff that isn't easy available digitally. You guys must have giant houses to store all these comics. I suppose you could be constantly getting rid of physical comics as you buy new ones but in my experience you're lucky to get a 1/10 of what you paid in the first place.

Great Gazoo

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 03:40:03 PM
They said from the get go that the Kevin Keller reboot was destine for digital and that is the case. I am also very glad that Dan Parent is doing this in the classic art style.

They waffled on it a couple of times. Last summer Dan told me they'd reconsidered and were going to do print as well, then they backpedalled again.

They REALLY want to force people to buy digital comics, don't they? It's that or nothing.
I don't know if that is all completely true about them wanting us to buy digital and leave the rest. I think they'd like more people to buy the hard copies of the Archie and Jughead reboot series as well. It just seems to be declining.

So essentially ACP is slowly but surely becoming a publisher of webcomics, not all that much different than PixieTrix, SitComics, or AstroComix...
I don't know if that is there ultimate plan, but with the way it looks with the reboot series most likely only lasting  few years at most where does that leave ACP other than having the Digests?

irishmoxie

Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 04:25:35 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 03:40:03 PM
They said from the get go that the Kevin Keller reboot was destine for digital and that is the case. I am also very glad that Dan Parent is doing this in the classic art style.

They waffled on it a couple of times. Last summer Dan told me they'd reconsidered and were going to do print as well, then they backpedalled again.

They REALLY want to force people to buy digital comics, don't they? It's that or nothing.
I don't know if that is all completely true about them wanting us to buy digital and leave the rest. I think they'd like more people to buy the hard copies of the Archie and Jughead reboot series as well. It just seems to be declining.

So essentially ACP is slowly but surely becoming a publisher of webcomics, not all that much different than PixieTrix, SitComics, or AstroComix...
I don't know if that is there ultimate plan, but with the way it looks with the reboot series most likely only lasting  few years at most where does that leave ACP other than having the Digests?

Well they only have a handful or less of artists and writers left so in that way it's like a webcomic. From a monetary stand point it makes sense. I often wonder what they do with all those leftover digests every month. I never see them in discount stores like other books. Hopefully they are recycling them.

Great Gazoo

Quote from: irishmoxie on April 12, 2016, 04:34:01 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 04:25:35 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 03:40:03 PM
They said from the get go that the Kevin Keller reboot was destine for digital and that is the case. I am also very glad that Dan Parent is doing this in the classic art style.

They waffled on it a couple of times. Last summer Dan told me they'd reconsidered and were going to do print as well, then they backpedalled again.

They REALLY want to force people to buy digital comics, don't they? It's that or nothing.
I don't know if that is all completely true about them wanting us to buy digital and leave the rest. I think they'd like more people to buy the hard copies of the Archie and Jughead reboot series as well. It just seems to be declining.

So essentially ACP is slowly but surely becoming a publisher of webcomics, not all that much different than PixieTrix, SitComics, or AstroComix...
I don't know if that is there ultimate plan, but with the way it looks with the reboot series most likely only lasting  few years at most where does that leave ACP other than having the Digests?

Well they only have a handful or less of artists and writers left so in that way it's like a webcomic. From a monetary stand point it makes sense. I often wonder what they do with all those leftover digests every month. I never see them in discount stores like other books. Hopefully they are recycling them.
I also always wondered what they do with the surplus digests. Do they put them in a warehouse and save them for a later date and then put them as part of there bundle of digests in what they attempt t sell on the site or do they shred them after a certain amount of time?

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: irishmoxie on April 12, 2016, 04:34:01 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 04:25:35 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 03:40:03 PM
They said from the get go that the Kevin Keller reboot was destine for digital and that is the case. I am also very glad that Dan Parent is doing this in the classic art style.

They waffled on it a couple of times. Last summer Dan told me they'd reconsidered and were going to do print as well, then they backpedalled again.

They REALLY want to force people to buy digital comics, don't they? It's that or nothing.
I don't know if that is all completely true about them wanting us to buy digital and leave the rest. I think they'd like more people to buy the hard copies of the Archie and Jughead reboot series as well. It just seems to be declining.

So essentially ACP is slowly but surely becoming a publisher of webcomics, not all that much different than PixieTrix, SitComics, or AstroComix...
I don't know if that is there ultimate plan, but with the way it looks with the reboot series most likely only lasting  few years at most where does that leave ACP other than having the Digests?

Well they only have a handful or less of artists and writers left so in that way it's like a webcomic. From a monetary stand point it makes sense. I often wonder what they do with all those leftover digests every month. I never see them in discount stores like other books. Hopefully they are recycling them.
I also always wondered what they do with the surplus digests. Do they put them in a warehouse and save them for a later date and then put them as part of there bundle of digests in what they attempt t sell on the site or do they shred them after a certain amount of time?

Well, they don't trash the ones they have in the warehouse. They sell you a random dozen for a set price on ArchieComics.com, and I bought a couple of those sets last year (using a discount code, the best way to do it) and got a copy of BETTY'S DIGEST #1 and VERONICA'S DIGEST #5 from 1995, so you can see they've been keeping them for a while.

By the way, this isn't the same as the unsold copies from supermarket chains, B&N, Walmart, Target or whatever. Usually when a retailer requests the credit for unsold copies, they just ask them to rip the covers off (so they can confirm those unsold copies won't be sold later). Shipping copies back to the publisher or distributor just involves too much expense.

Great Gazoo

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 05:16:14 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: irishmoxie on April 12, 2016, 04:34:01 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 04:25:35 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 03:40:03 PM
They said from the get go that the Kevin Keller reboot was destine for digital and that is the case. I am also very glad that Dan Parent is doing this in the classic art style.

They waffled on it a couple of times. Last summer Dan told me they'd reconsidered and were going to do print as well, then they backpedalled again.

They REALLY want to force people to buy digital comics, don't they? It's that or nothing.
I don't know if that is all completely true about them wanting us to buy digital and leave the rest. I think they'd like more people to buy the hard copies of the Archie and Jughead reboot series as well. It just seems to be declining.

So essentially ACP is slowly but surely becoming a publisher of webcomics, not all that much different than PixieTrix, SitComics, or AstroComix...
I don't know if that is there ultimate plan, but with the way it looks with the reboot series most likely only lasting  few years at most where does that leave ACP other than having the Digests?

Well they only have a handful or less of artists and writers left so in that way it's like a webcomic. From a monetary stand point it makes sense. I often wonder what they do with all those leftover digests every month. I never see them in discount stores like other books. Hopefully they are recycling them.
I also always wondered what they do with the surplus digests. Do they put them in a warehouse and save them for a later date and then put them as part of there bundle of digests in what they attempt t sell on the site or do they shred them after a certain amount of time?

Well, they don't trash the ones they have in the warehouse. They sell you a random dozen for a set price on ArchieComics.com, and I bought a couple of those sets last year (using a discount code, the best way to do it) and got a copy of BETTY'S DIGEST #1 and VERONICA'S DIGEST #5 from 1995, so you can see they've been keeping them for a while.

By the way, this isn't the same as the unsold copies from supermarket chains, B&N, Walmart, Target or whatever. Usually when a retailer requests the credit for unsold copies, they just ask them to rip the covers off (so they can confirm those unsold copies won't be sold later). Shipping copies back to the publisher or distributor just involves too much expense.
I knew they did those digest bundles I just didn't know how far they went back with the issues that someone purchasing a bundle could get. It is good to hear that they are making good use to them instead of shredding them.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: irishmoxie on April 12, 2016, 04:23:31 PM
I'm trying to only buy digital now. I already have an entire room dedicated to comics. I only try to buy physical copies of stuff that isn't easy available digitally. You guys must have giant houses to store all these comics. I suppose you could be constantly getting rid of physical comics as you buy new ones but in my experience you're lucky to get a 1/10 of what you paid in the first place.

Archie Digital would be totally worth it to me, if I could really get what I want, but I can't. They barely have anything from before the mid-1990s available. So yeah, to the extent that it would save me the trouble of spending the rest of my life trying to hunt down back issues of the original JOSIE, SABRINA, THAT WILKIN BOY, MADHOUSE GLADS, BETTY'S DIARY, ARCHIE GIANT SERIES and LIFE WITH ARCHIE (the original), I'd be thrilled if they were all made available digitally.

There might be some good material in some of those DE collections, but they refuse to tell you what's in them, and as we've commented on over and over, there's WAY too much duplication of the same stories from one collection to another collection.  The only thing they're offering right now that's close to what I'm really looking for is the ARCHIE 75 SERIES of Digital Exclusives.

Great Gazoo

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: irishmoxie on April 12, 2016, 04:23:31 PM
I'm trying to only buy digital now. I already have an entire room dedicated to comics. I only try to buy physical copies of stuff that isn't easy available digitally. You guys must have giant houses to store all these comics. I suppose you could be constantly getting rid of physical comics as you buy new ones but in my experience you're lucky to get a 1/10 of what you paid in the first place.

Archie Digital would be totally worth it to me, if I could really get what I want, but I can't. They barely have anything from before the mid-1990s available. So yeah, to the extent that it would save me the trouble of spending the rest of my life trying to hunt down back issues of the original JOSIE, SABRINA, THAT WILKIN BOY, MADHOUSE GLADS, BETTY'S DIARY, ARCHIE GIANT SERIES and LIFE WITH ARCHIE (the original), I'd be thrilled if they were all made available digitally.

There might be some good material in some of those DE collections, but they refuse to tell you what's in them, and as we've commented on over and over, there's WAY too much duplication of the same stories from one collection to another collection.  The only thing they're offering right now that's close to what I'm really looking for is the ARCHIE 75 SERIES of Digital Exclusives.
I have recently purchased Unlimited after selling my entire Archie comics collection to a local comic shop dealer after I thought I was getting out altogether. That didn't last too long at all. I am enjoying it so far and mostly for the Pep Digital Exclusive stuff they have. I have also read some of the older stuff like all the original #1 issues and I am also liking the collections I have read that have to do with Christmas stories. So far there is plenty for me to keep me occupied and if I see down the road that I am getting tired with it I will just cancel the monthly service.

DeCarlo Rules

My basic complaint about Archie Digital is that they are a store that just sells dozens and dozens of varieties of Trail Mix. And they won't give you the list of ingredients in that Trail Mix before you buy it. I can't buy just a bag of cashews, almonds, sunflower seeds or M&Ms, I have to buy the entire bag of whatever they decided to throw in there. Most of the stuff I REALLY want is just a minor ingredient in the bag of Trail Mix, and there's no way I can increase that percentage except to buy in bulk. I gotta agree to take 10 Little Archie stories just to get a few Sabrina, Josie, and That Wilkin Boy stories. There's this attitude on the part of the company that everything they're offering is of equal value, but it isn't.

Other comic book companies let you pick out just the stuff you like, and get just that in a big collection.

Great Gazoo

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 06:37:53 PM
My basic complaint about Archie Digital is that they are a store that just sells dozens and dozens of varieties of Trail Mix. And they won't give you the list of ingredients in that Trail Mix before you buy it. I can't buy just a bag of cashews, almonds, sunflower seeds or M&Ms, I have to buy the entire bag of whatever they decided to throw in there. Most of the stuff I REALLY want is just a minor ingredient in the bag of Trail Mix, and there's no way I can increase that percentage except to buy in bulk. I gotta agree to take 10 Little Archie stories just to get a few Sabrina, Josie, and That Wilkin Boy stories. There's this attitude on the part of the company that everything they're offering is of equal value, but it isn't.

Other comic book companies let you pick out just the stuff you like, and get just that in a big collection.
You have to remember they are putting this stuff out for a lot of people and those people don't particularly like the same thing you do. They have to represent everyone when putting out in bulk. So there has to be those Little Archie stories because there are also a lot of people who enjoy them a lot as well(I am not one  BTW). So each individual is looking as you say for there own ingredients in the trail mix and it is different for everyone. That is why they have to put stuff out in bulk and I  guess they try and proportion it equally.

As for labeling what content is in the digests that you may want to purchase, who were the artists, writers, and stuff like that I also feel this should be done to give the reader more informational background on each story. I haven't a clue why they don't stick this at the bottom of the begging of each story.

Like I said I am really new to digital comics and I imagine there can and will be improvements with it in the future. Right now I am just enjoying what I got and that is mostly the Pep Digital Exclusives.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 06:37:53 PM
My basic complaint about Archie Digital is that they are a store that just sells dozens and dozens of varieties of Trail Mix. And they won't give you the list of ingredients in that Trail Mix before you buy it. I can't buy just a bag of cashews, almonds, sunflower seeds or M&Ms, I have to buy the entire bag of whatever they decided to throw in there. Most of the stuff I REALLY want is just a minor ingredient in the bag of Trail Mix, and there's no way I can increase that percentage except to buy in bulk. I gotta agree to take 10 Little Archie stories just to get a few Sabrina, Josie, and That Wilkin Boy stories. There's this attitude on the part of the company that everything they're offering is of equal value, but it isn't.

Other comic book companies let you pick out just the stuff you like, and get just that in a big collection.
You have to remember they are putting this stuff out for a lot of people and those people don't particularly like the same thing you do. They have to represent everyone when putting out in bulk. So there has to be those Little Archie stories because there are also a lot of people who enjoy them a lot as well(I am not one  BTW). So each individual is looking as you say for there own ingredients in the trail mix and it is different for everyone. That is why they have to put stuff out in bulk and I  guess they try and proportion it equally.

What you're quoting is the economics of PRINT publication, not digital. There are reasons why that situation needs to be the way it is when it comes to publishing the digests. There is NO reason it has to be that way when it comes to digital. There's no overhead for paying printers and distributors. That means that niche-marketing to 10 different groups with a small audience can generate the same profit as one item with a larger audience. In other words, small profits add up when there's no overhead to subtract from them. And furthermore, you know what? They don't really KNOW the size of the digital audience for some of the stuff in their library, because they haven't TRIED making it available that way. They only know it doesn't work for a print audience, economically.

Gisele

Very happy to see this finally happening. I know it means a lot to Dan and J.Bone. I'll be supporting it.
I'm a cartoonist! http://www.giselelagace.com

Great Gazoo

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 07:02:19 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 12, 2016, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 06:37:53 PM
My basic complaint about Archie Digital is that they are a store that just sells dozens and dozens of varieties of Trail Mix. And they won't give you the list of ingredients in that Trail Mix before you buy it. I can't buy just a bag of cashews, almonds, sunflower seeds or M&Ms, I have to buy the entire bag of whatever they decided to throw in there. Most of the stuff I REALLY want is just a minor ingredient in the bag of Trail Mix, and there's no way I can increase that percentage except to buy in bulk. I gotta agree to take 10 Little Archie stories just to get a few Sabrina, Josie, and That Wilkin Boy stories. There's this attitude on the part of the company that everything they're offering is of equal value, but it isn't.

Other comic book companies let you pick out just the stuff you like, and get just that in a big collection.
You have to remember they are putting this stuff out for a lot of people and those people don't particularly like the same thing you do. They have to represent everyone when putting out in bulk. So there has to be those Little Archie stories because there are also a lot of people who enjoy them a lot as well(I am not one  BTW). So each individual is looking as you say for there own ingredients in the trail mix and it is different for everyone. That is why they have to put stuff out in bulk and I  guess they try and proportion it equally.

What you're quoting is the economics of PRINT publication, not digital. There are reasons why that situation needs to be the way it is when it comes to publishing the digests. There is NO reason it has to be that way when it comes to digital. There's no overhead for paying printers and distributors. That means that niche-marketing to 10 different groups with a small audience can generate the same profit as one item with a larger audience. In other words, small profits add up when there's no overhead to subtract from them. And furthermore, you know what? They don't really KNOW the size of the digital audience for some of the stuff in their library, because they haven't TRIED making it available that way. They only know it doesn't work for a print audience, economically.
Regardless if there is no reason why it has to be that way they still have to proportion stuff out equally in digital or in print. I hope I am totally understanding your post fully, but imaging this scenario. If you had a print publication that hit the stores every month and let's say it was Lil Jinx stories every month with no variation don't you think people who don't particularly enjoy reading Lil Jinx stories all the time would get fed up? The same goes with digital, the have to put an equal or as close to equal representation of stories from different characters throughout what they are trying to sell. That may be Josie, Sabrina, That Wilkin Boy, Little Archie, Reggie Stories, Jughiead, Betty & Veronica, Lil Jinx and whatever else I am missing to try and please everyone who has gotten the digital app. ACP I imagine with digital wants to give the reader a way they can get a comic to read quickly.

Like I said and like with everything I always feel there is room for improvement and I think with time it will improve with adding more of its older catalog.

60sBettyandReggie

Quote from: irishmoxie on April 12, 2016, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: spazaru on April 12, 2016, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on April 12, 2016, 01:44:27 PM
I wonder why they decided to keep it in the Classic Archie style.

Dan Parent created the character.  It would take huge stones to tell him to draw it in the new Riverdale style.

I think Dan said awhile ago he had already drawn it he was just waiting for ACP to solicit it. So that's why it's in the classic style.


That makes sense.

Mr.Lodge

It didn't sell the first time around. What makes people think it will now? ???

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