Welcome to Archie Comics Fan Forum. Please login or sign up.

May 21, 2022, 03:13:09 PM

Login with username, password and session length

Recent Topics

Shoutbox

May 15 2022 8:40pm
Hanna Barbera Montana: First look at Netflix's The Archies: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_x5BvWZavQ8

May 08 2022 5:02pm
Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Spaced Out!" from Cheryl Blossom #13: https://riverdalereviewed.wordpress.com/2022/05/08/comics-spaced-out/

May 07 2022 7:03pm
Tuxedo Mark: My review of "What a Nice Trip!" from Cheryl Blossom #13: https://riverdalereviewed.wordpress.com/2022/05/07/comics-what-a-nice-trip/

May 04 2022 10:59pm
stangoldberg4ever: Comics legend Neal Adams passed at age 80 (1941-2022)

May 03 2022 6:31pm
Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Wigged Out" from Cheryl Blossom #12: https://riverdalereviewed.wordpress.com/2022/05/03/comics-wigged-out/

May 02 2022 6:41am
Mr.Lodge: That's going to do alot for sales (Not)  :P

Apr 30 2022 1:31pm
DeCarlo Rules: I'm sure you must have noticed that the cover price of digests went up again, so it's the least they can do...

Apr 30 2022 1:30pm
DeCarlo Rules: Not sure if I counted three, or four months' worth of solicitations of digest where they all promise two new stories. Hopefully that becomes a regular thing now, unless they want to add a third story. But they didn't follow through with Archie Digest #329.

Apr 29 2022 10:51pm
Tuxedo Mark: The title "Poster Boy" as used in this story is a different meaning than the usual. It's referring to Archie trying to make (and post) a viral video. So he's a "poster boy".

Big Ethel Energy

Started by beatman10, December 07, 2021, 08:47:36 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

beatman10

Has anyone else been tuning in to Big Ethel Energy? I have, and I have to say my feelings are mixed about this series. I get and like that Ethel is being transformed from being '"the ugly joke girl who chases after Jughead" into a smart, attractive woman (and yeah, she is gorgeous here), But, I don't like what they have done with her personality and with the other characters.  Ethel was never shy, nor, I don't remember her ever being bullied by the others. If anything , Betty and Veronica tried to help her attract Jughead or other guys. In this story, Archie seems to be a loser. Even Betty doesn't want him. And Jughead is totally a jerk and unlikable. The only two likeable characters are Ms. Grundy and Moose. Anyone else have feelings about Big Ethel Energy?

Tuxedo Mark

I've read only the first chapter so far, so I haven't formed much of an opinion yet.
BV-kiss-small
Riverdale Reviewed
http://riverdalereviewed.wordpress.com
Every episode of "Riverdale", "The New Archies", and "Archie's Weird Mysteries" reviewed.
My digital wish list
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/14FS742SI1R5I

DeCarlo Rules

#2
Quote from: beatman10 on December 07, 2021, 08:47:36 PMI don't like what they have done with her personality and with the other characters.  Ethel was never shy, nor, I don't remember her ever being bullied by the others. If anything , Betty and Veronica tried to help her attract Jughead or other guys. In this story, Archie seems to be a loser. Even Betty doesn't want him. And Jughead is totally a jerk and unlikable. The only two likeable characters are Ms. Grundy and Moose. Anyone else have feelings about Big Ethel Energy?

This is a more general issue I have with any of the rebooted Archie comics and Riverdale. I saw the ads for the series printed in the digests, and just did not recognize her as the same Ethel Muggs character.

So yes, in the Classic Archie mode, Big Ethel really WAS "the ugly joke girl who chases after Jughead" and it's kind of too late for apologies... because changing that makes her a different character entirely. The world today does not accept a gag-based comic filled with outrageous caricatures, so a rebooted Ethel must become a character with dignity and agency to modern readers. I guess their idea of that is to present the male characters as loser-jerks that Ethel can eventually triumph over somehow. Moose somehow escapes that because he's another example of a Classic Archie joke caricature ("big stupid massively strong, sometimes dangerously aggressive jock") that could be taken as maligning some real type of person, such as someone with mental retardation or a learning disability, or anger-management issues.

EDIT  Out of curiosity I had a look at the 1st webisode just to see, even though I knew pretty conclusively ahead of time this wasn't for me. And your criticism seems well-founded, with most commentators complaining about the characters being different than what they expected. With these New Archie reboots, even though they're not all pieces of a common shared-universe, I've come to expect it's a bunch of writers who have their own ideas about what sort of stories they want to tell, and change the Archie-derived avatars to fit that story.

beatman10

I'm not against stories that depict the characters as adults where they deal with more mature issues. I simply don't want to see their core personalities wiped out, which I think, stories like Big Ethel Energy have done. The characters seem less likable and just plain weird. Maybe, it's the artwork and trying to make them look more like real people instead of the classic Archie look.

The Archie character names and likenesses are covered by the registered trademarks/copyrights of Archie Comic Publications, Inc. and are used with permission by this site. The Official Archie Comics website can be visited at www.archiecomics.com.