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DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: SAGG on February 20, 2018, 09:48:57 AMI think you'd like Black Panther, DR. It's VERY good. I saw it Monday...

I've seen next-to-nothing in terms of information about the film, except for a few ad banners here and there (not even the trailer), but I'll check into it some more. The comics have been doing some revamping of the Black Panther's mythos that I haven't closely followed in recent years, and I'm not sure how much those recent comics figure into the film interpretation. The first thing that strikes me as different is the costume, which is more of a techno-suit armor than just some ceremonial garb. I guess it fits with the fact that T'Challa is supposed to be a high-tech wiz, but then again, he's not just an African Iron Man.

Tuxedo Mark

I'm glad that I gave up superhero comics years ago. I wasn't even a hardcore collector. But I spent an awful lot of money on them. Those $2 or $3 per issue added up, not to mention the cost of gas to get to a place that even had comics. Even when I got into the newer Archie and Tomb Raider comics, ordering them online, the shipping costs were horrible. I haven't bought a physical comic since late 2016.

With the movies and shows, that's often how I learn about these characters.

Even with Supergirl, I like to think I know a fair bit about her history, and I can safely say the current TV series is the best adaptation of her, followed by the "Smallville" incarnation. They're not perfect, but they're good.

As for "Riverdale", I enjoy it. I'm in on the joke, and I think the writers and actors are, too. It's not how I would have done an adaptation, but I look forward to watching each episode.
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DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: Tuxedo Mark on February 20, 2018, 04:02:51 PM
Even with Supergirl, I like to think I know a fair bit about her history, and I can safely say the current TV series is the best adaptation of her, followed by the "Smallville" incarnation. They're not perfect, but they're good.

Even saying you know about Supergirl's history is sort of an ambiguous statement, because there have been about 5 or 6 different versions of "Supergirl" (some of which weren't even Kal-El's cousin Kara Zor-El), each of which changed basic details of her origin story, making them mutually inconsistent. Even the Kara Zor-El versions of the character are all predicated on the prior existence of Superman in her universe, so it seems a little weird to have a Supergirl television series where there had been no Superman television series beforehand to spin off of. I don't know whether Superman is actually a character in the show, or if there's just some assumption of his offscreen presence. It seems a little like making a Nightwing television series and not having any reference to Batman.

Tuxedo Mark

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 20, 2018, 05:50:55 PM
Quote from: Tuxedo Mark on February 20, 2018, 04:02:51 PM
Even with Supergirl, I like to think I know a fair bit about her history, and I can safely say the current TV series is the best adaptation of her, followed by the "Smallville" incarnation. They're not perfect, but they're good.

Even saying you know about Supergirl's history is sort of an ambiguous statement, because there have been about 5 or 6 different versions of "Supergirl" (some of which weren't even Kal-El's cousin Kara Zor-El), each of which changed basic details of her origin story, making them mutually inconsistent. Even the Kara Zor-El versions of the character are all predicated on the prior existence of Superman in her universe, so it seems a little weird to have a Supergirl television series where there had been no Superman television series beforehand to spin off of. I don't know whether Superman is actually a character in the show, or if there's just some assumption of his offscreen presence. It seems a little like making a Nightwing television series and not having any reference to Batman.

Oh, he's there; he's just used very sparingly. They recently hinted at a sort of Smallville-esque history for him in the "Supergirl" universe (he has a hacker friend named Chloe with a Wall of Weird).

Yeah, I'm aware of the alternate versions of Supergirl. I read anything Supergirl-related that I could get my hands on in the late 1990s / early 2000s. I even read that Peter David series (which was basically Supergirl in name only and had a sucky ending). I haven't read anything past the early 2000s, so I'm unfamiliar with how the rebooted Kara Zor-El has been doing except for what I've read on Wikipedia. Still, from what I've gathered, the show is so influential that the comics have added elements from it. I'd rather not get back into reading her, though, because it might be wiped out during the next reboot.
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DeCarlo Rules

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Quote from: Tuxedo Mark on February 20, 2018, 11:33:59 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 20, 2018, 05:50:55 PM
Quote from: Tuxedo Mark on February 20, 2018, 04:02:51 PM
Even with Supergirl, I like to think I know a fair bit about her history, and I can safely say the current TV series is the best adaptation of her, followed by the "Smallville" incarnation. They're not perfect, but they're good.

Even saying you know about Supergirl's history is sort of an ambiguous statement, because there have been about 5 or 6 different versions of "Supergirl" (some of which weren't even Kal-El's cousin Kara Zor-El), each of which changed basic details of her origin story, making them mutually inconsistent. Even the Kara Zor-El versions of the character are all predicated on the prior existence of Superman in her universe, so it seems a little weird to have a Supergirl television series where there had been no Superman television series beforehand to spin off of. I don't know whether Superman is actually a character in the show, or if there's just some assumption of his offscreen presence. It seems a little like making a Nightwing television series and not having any reference to Batman.

Oh, he's there; he's just used very sparingly. They recently hinted at a sort of Smallville-esque history for him in the "Supergirl" universe (he has a hacker friend named Chloe with a Wall of Weird).

That's a little weird too, given that in the SMALLVILLE series there wasn't any Superboy (and the series went on far past the time when he should have become Superman). Apparently in the comic book series adapted from SMALLVILLE which spun off after the series ended, he finally DID get a Superman costume (but since I didn't actually read it, that's about all I know about it, from having seen the covers).

But yeah, SMALLVILLE kind of broke the mold as the first "NOT an adaptation, but a freeform variation" which was "based on", but not really "adapted from", the comic books. With no apologies, they just played "what if" with that show, and went off on whatever tangents they wanted, not beholden to anything established before in the Superboy/man comic books. Shows like GOTHAM and RIVERDALE are the direct descendants of that "not really trying to adapt anything here, folks" type of thinking.

Personally, I think the Japanese do a much better job of live-action superheroes on television that capture the look and "feel" of comic books. That's because rather than adapt an existing manga to television, they usually just hire a manga creator to create the original-for-TV characters, background world, and premise for a TV series, and then the manga artist goes off and does his own manga version which runs concurrent with the show (and which frequently deviates from the TV series storyline at some point). The absolute best superhero movies and TV shows I've seen are all Japanese.

I guess I just don't feel much of a sense of urgency or priority about most of the comic book shows and movies. Like I can see it now, next year when it comes on DVD, or five years from now when I see it in a Walmart $5 bin. With the TV shows it's more a question of how much time do I care to invest in something, because it's not like you really get complete stories from a single episode... it's a 20+hour telenovel each season. Probably not that much, because I'd rather spend the time reading. If I felt that committed, I'd probably just wait for a DVD box set and watch it that way.

DeCarlo Rules

THE GOOD NEWS: Betty and Veronica Friends Forever #1 - At the Movies is out this week.

THE BAD NEWS:  Well... First, let me ask you a question. How many of you happened to read the last couple of issues of B&V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest, and Betty and Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest?  If you didn't read them, then I guess for you there's NO bad news, so forget I mentioned anything.

For everyone who did read those digests, though... 

Here are the stories in Betty and Veronica Friends Forever #1 - At the Movies :

1.  "Riot on the Set" (from B&V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest #259, April 2018)
2.  "Movie Mix-Up" (from Betty and Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest #261, April 2018)
3.  "Extra Disastrous" (from B&V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest #260, May 2018)
4.  "An Un-Living Doll" (from Betty and Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest #262, June 2018)

So, yeah... I'm disappointed.  :-\ 

I can't say I didn't have my suspicions, and I almost mentioned it when I noticed (after B&VFF #1 had been announced with an "At the Movies" theme) that the stories in the recent digests almost seemed like they could have fit right in with the newly-solicited $2.99 floppy comic. And then, I was wondering... if they can't sell enough copies to make money off a $3.99 classic Archie floppy comic book, then how can they possibly make any money off a comic book which sells for $1 less per copy?

I don't want to put words in irishmoxie's mouth or presume to speak for her, but I feel pretty sure she'd say "Boo!" to this.

Me, I'm not going to NOT buy it... because that's the kind of desperation I feel reduced to as a fan of classic Archie comics in these current times.

I'm not proud of it, but ACP should be ashamed (I mean, come on! Couldn't they at least have picked some Dan Parent stories out of digests a year or two older, that may have been missed or at least forgotten by current Archie readers, instead of stories I'd only read a couple of weeks or months ago?*). I certainly don't blame Dan Parent -- HE doesn't work in the marketing or editorial departments of ACP.

*Yeah, and I'm STILL waiting for parts 8, 9 and 10 of "The Many Loves of Archie Andrews" -- and something resembling a conclusion to that series of a couple of years back. Could they have reprinted THAT? No, of course not.

CAPalace

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 30, 2018, 02:39:13 PM
THE GOOD NEWS: Betty and Veronica Friends Forever #1 - At the Movies is out this week.

THE BAD NEWS:  Well... First, let me ask you a question. How many of you happened to read the last couple of issues of B&V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest, and Betty and Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest?  If you didn't read them, then I guess for you there's NO bad news, so forget I mentioned anything.

For everyone who did read those digests, though... 

Here are the stories in Betty and Veronica Friends Forever #1 - At the Movies :

1.  "Riot on the Set" (from B&V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest #259, April 2018)
2.  "Movie Mix-Up" (from Betty and Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest #261, April 2018)
3.  "Extra Disastrous" (from B&V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest #260, May 2018)
4.  "An Un-Living Doll" (from Betty and Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest #262, June 2018)

So, yeah... I'm disappointed.  :-\ 

I can't say I didn't have my suspicions, and I almost mentioned it when I noticed (after B&VFF #1 had been announced with an "At the Movies" theme) that the stories in the recent digests almost seemed like they could have fit right in with the newly-solicited $2.99 floppy comic. And then, I was wondering... if they can't sell enough copies to make money off a $3.99 classic Archie floppy comic book, then how can they possibly make any money off a comic book which sells for $1 less per copy?

I don't want to put words in irishmoxie's mouth or presume to speak for her, but I feel pretty sure she'd say "Boo!" to this.

Me, I'm not going to NOT buy it... because that's the kind of desperation I feel reduced to as a fan of classic Archie comics in these current times.

I'm not proud of it, but ACP should be ashamed (I mean, come on! Couldn't they at least have picked some Dan Parent stories out of digests a year or two older, that may have been missed or at least forgotten by current Archie readers, instead of stories I'd only read a couple of weeks or months ago?*). I certainly don't blame Dan Parent -- HE doesn't work in the marketing or editorial departments of ACP.

*Yeah, and I'm STILL waiting for parts 8, 9 and 10 of "The Many Loves of Archie Andrews" -- and something resembling a conclusion to that series of a couple of years back. Could they have reprinted THAT? No, of course not.

Ouch, this is bad news.  :( The way they're advertising it led me to believe they were brand-new stories. (Well, I guess, technically they are lol...) Thanks for the heads-up as usual.

DeCarlo Rules

The real irony here, for me personally, is if they had done the very same thing with the lead stories appearing in Archie Jumbo Comics Digest and World of Archie Jumbo Comics Digest, it would have been win/win for me all the way. I let my subscriptions to those titles expire last year, and even stopped getting them by ordering through my LCS as of January this year, because the new lead stories were the ONLY things left in those digests that I was getting them for. I doubt that'll happen now, because it would be just much too convenient for me, and I don't think the Friends Forever experiment will last more than a year, if even that long.

Tuxedo Mark

An all-reprint floppy title? Are you kidding me?

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 30, 2018, 02:39:13 PM
3.  "Extra Disastrous" (from B&V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest #260, May 2018)
4.  "An Un-Living Doll" (from Betty and Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest #262, June 2018)

I've read both of these. I even reviewed the former on my blog recently and considered reviewing the latter before deciding "Nah, way too stupid."

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 30, 2018, 02:39:13 PM
*Yeah, and I'm STILL waiting for parts 8, 9 and 10 of "The Many Loves of Archie Andrews" -- and something resembling a conclusion to that series of a couple of years back. Could they have reprinted THAT? No, of course not.

I remember that. I even reviewed the Cheryl story on my blog. That wasn't even a series, though; it was a bunch of independent stories marketed under a banner.
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Every episode of "Riverdale", "The New Archies", and "Archie's Weird Mysteries" reviewed.
My digital wish list
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/14FS742SI1R5I

irishmoxie

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 30, 2018, 02:39:13 PM
THE GOOD NEWS: Betty and Veronica Friends Forever #1 - At the Movies is out this week.

THE BAD NEWS:  Well... First, let me ask you a question. How many of you happened to read the last couple of issues of B&V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest, and Betty and Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest?  If you didn't read them, then I guess for you there's NO bad news, so forget I mentioned anything.

For everyone who did read those digests, though... 

Here are the stories in Betty and Veronica Friends Forever #1 - At the Movies :

1.  "Riot on the Set" (from B&V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest #259, April 2018)
2.  "Movie Mix-Up" (from Betty and Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest #261, April 2018)
3.  "Extra Disastrous" (from B&V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest #260, May 2018)
4.  "An Un-Living Doll" (from Betty and Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest #262, June 2018)

So, yeah... I'm disappointed.  :-\ 

I can't say I didn't have my suspicions, and I almost mentioned it when I noticed (after B&VFF #1 had been announced with an "At the Movies" theme) that the stories in the recent digests almost seemed like they could have fit right in with the newly-solicited $2.99 floppy comic. And then, I was wondering... if they can't sell enough copies to make money off a $3.99 classic Archie floppy comic book, then how can they possibly make any money off a comic book which sells for $1 less per copy?

I don't want to put words in irishmoxie's mouth or presume to speak for her, but I feel pretty sure she'd say "Boo!" to this.



Boo! Haha. That's exactly what I said when I read this. Unfortunately I did buy the comic first. But as I haven't been keeping up with digests lately, these new-ish stories should be new to me. So they're kinda like mini versions of those Best of 2016/2017 Digest Annual digital only releases they've been doing.


Couldn't they have included at least one totally new story?  :tickedoff: I thought Classic Archie was making a comeback.

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