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Author Topic: Continuities that Riverdale has surpassed  (Read 735 times)

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Tuxedo Mark

Continuities that Riverdale has surpassed
« on: May 10, 2018, 05:23:58 pm »
So I've been keeping track, recently, of how Riverdale stacks up against other Archie continuities (specifically, adaptations in non-comic media). I equate one minute of running time with one page of prose and also with one comic page, even though the amount of content in a comic page is probably significantly less than what can be conveyed in one page of a novel or one minute of a show.

I've found, as of last night's episode (and including all Riverdale comic issues), Riverdale has surpassed, individually:

the 1962 and 1964 pilots
the 1976 and 1978 pilots
Josie and the Pussycats (HB cartoons)
The New Archies (episodes + comics)
Archie: To Riverdale and Back Again
Riverdale High (novels, although this one's kinda debatable)
Sabrina the Teenage Witch (1996 Showtime movie)
Archie's Weird Mysteries (all episodes, all comic issues (including Archie's Mysteries), and the Jugman movie)
Josie and the Pussycats (2001 film)
Kevin (novel)
xoxo, Betty and Veronica (novels)
Betty: Diary of a Girl Next Door (novel)
Sabrina: Secrets of a Teenage Witch
New Riverdale (all issues of every series, although it might briefly regain the lead during the summer)

I'm not sure how long that the old-time radio show ran, but most episodes seem to no longer exist, so should that be counted as another win?

The loose continuity of Sabrina: The Animated Series, Sabrina in Friends Forever, and Sabrina's Secret Life will be equaled by episode 12 of season 3 of Riverdale and surpassed by episode 13. It will take longer if you factor in the issues of the corresponding Sabrina comic series.

The Filmation series is confusing. A lot of episodes seem to consist of recycled stories. There was even an iteration that consisted of nothing but repeats. Also, the majority of Archie's T.V. Funnies can be removed from competition, since it's mostly non-Archie content. So I'm not sure exactly how much content is in this "continuity", but it seems to be the next milestone for Riverdale to surpass after all of the DiC Sabrina stuff.

Obviously, the live-action Sabrina the Teenage Witch series is the most successful Archie Comics adaptation ever. Riverdale would have to last until episode 7 of season 5 in order to surpass it, and that's only if you don't count the plethora of tie-in novels.
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Riverdale Reviewed
http://riverdalereviewed.wordpress.com
Every episode of "Riverdale", "The New Archies", and "Archie's Weird Mysteries" reviewed.
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DeCarlo Rules

Re: Continuities that Riverdale has surpassed
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2018, 01:26:38 am »

the 1962 and 1964 pilots

There were TWO 1960s pilots? I've only seen one (I think that's the 1964 one). I know there was more than one attempt made to adapt Archie to TV in the early sixties, but I'm not sure if any of the other ones actually made it to the point of having completed a finished pilot film.

Tuxedo Mark

Re: Continuities that Riverdale has surpassed
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2018, 08:56:40 am »

the 1962 and 1964 pilots

There were TWO 1960s pilots? I've only seen one (I think that's the 1964 one). I know there was more than one attempt made to adapt Archie to TV in the early sixties, but I'm not sure if any of the other ones actually made it to the point of having completed a finished pilot film.

Yes. Frank Bank starred in the 1962 pilot (which, as far as I know, has never seen the light of day, although TheDownloader on this forum claims to have it). He talked about it in an interview on one of the Leave It to Beaver DVD sets. I haven't seen the interview, but I've read about it. He gave a cast list. Only Cheryl Holdridge (Betty) was in both pilots. According to IMDb (which got the cast for the 1962 pilot wrong, so take it with a grain of salt), network execs passed on the 1962 pilot, because they thought audiences would still see Frank as Lumpy.
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Riverdale Reviewed
http://riverdalereviewed.wordpress.com
Every episode of "Riverdale", "The New Archies", and "Archie's Weird Mysteries" reviewed.
My digital wish list
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/14FS742SI1R5I

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Continuities that Riverdale has surpassed
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2018, 10:59:48 am »
Only Cheryl Holdridge (Betty) was in both pilots.

Oh yeah... Lumpy Rutherford. Really can't imagine him as Archie; even less than the other guy (whose name I forget). Oh, that Archie and his wacky inventions! (what th- ?!?) And what was up with William Schallert as Archie's dad in that 1964 pilot? If the pilot had sold, he could never have played Fred Andrews since he was already playing Patty's father on The Patty Duke Show!

Cheryl Holdridge was the only one who I thought completely nailed it, as Betty in the 1964 version. Veronica wasn't too bad (but she probably needed to be a little more bad, for that time period).

Although Dwayne Hickman made a pretty convincing Wilber Wilkin (the "new", Doyle/DeCarlo Wilber, I mean) in The Many Loves of Dobey Gillis.

 


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