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Author Topic: Archie #22  (Read 223 times)

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Vegan Jughead

Archie #22
« on: July 19, 2017, 09:13:48 AM »
Archie #22 is sweet and heartbreaking at the same time.  I recommend it. 


It seems like #23 will be a weird time to change artists from Pete Woods to Audrey Mok.  They claimed #23 starts a new arc, but it's going to be really a continuation of the current story.  I like Audrey's art much better than Pete's, so I'm fine with it, but I wish this book could stick with an artist. 

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Archie #22
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2017, 10:49:57 AM »
It's probably more a question of what page rate an artist is willing to work for, and for how long. Without some explicit commitment denoted in a written contract, any artist is more likely to gravitate towards available work at a better rate, regardless of who's offering it. That's pretty much the definition of a freelancer.

Then again, there's never been any guarantee at ACP that the artist who drew the story in the previous issue would be the artist who drew the story in the next issue, even on titles where one particular artist might be more likely to draw it than any other. It just goes hand in hand with the philosophy that it's not the artists and writers who are important here, it's the names of the intellectual properties owned by the company that are selling the product.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2017, 11:02:45 AM by DeCarlo Rules »

Mr.Lodge

Re: Archie #22
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2017, 11:18:32 AM »
In other words, it's just ACP operating with their head up the rear. They seen to have no rhyme or reason what they want to do or be. Sounds like bad leadership or lack of. Just ask Fernando Ruiz. The way they treated him, Dan DeCarlo and others is disgraceful. ACP needs Fernando and Gisele, good leadership, real direction.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Archie #22
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2017, 05:00:10 AM »
The only observation I'll make here is that REGGIE AND ME and JOSIE had the same creative team for the length of their runs, and JUGHEAD had 2 different writers and 2 different artists. ARCHIE has had a single writer and a different artist for each story arc. You can hardly judge Adam Hughes B&V for comparative purposes due to the fact that it only ran 3 issues, the first issue of which was locked into retailers' preorder numbers.

My takeaway from that is that the people who continued to buy ARCHIE after the first story arc either liked Mark Waid's story a lot better than the stories of the other writers on the other New Riverdale titles, or they just want to buy a comic which features Archie and his supporting cast, and they care less about Reggie, Josie, and Jughead as main characters. Possibly a combination of the two factors, but if I had to bet which side sales were leaning more heavily on, I'd go with the fact that it's ARCHIE, rather than that it's written by Mark Waid, since I doubt the main consumers buying ARCHIE are followers of Waid's work on other comic books.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Archie #22
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2017, 05:38:13 AM »
You can probably expect to see a sales bump on the "Over the Edge" arc issues of ARCHIE due to retailer speculation, following in the same pattern as prior retailer speculation on VERONICA #202 (first appearance of Kevin Keller), and LIFE WITH ARCHIE #16 (The Marriage of Kevin Keller cover variant), #23 (Francavilla
"Afterlife With Archie" cover variant), and #36 & 37 (the "Death of Archie" issues).

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Archie #22
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2017, 07:15:06 AM »
So what do these characters have in common?

Charles (Professor X) Xavier
Dr. Niles (The Chief) Caulder
Barbara (Oracle) Gordon
Anita (once dated Jughead) Chavita
Harper Lodge
Betty Cooper

 


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