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Author Topic: List discussion?  (Read 3368 times)

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invisifan

List discussion?
« on: April 28, 2016, 05:29:33 AM »
In the pre-crash forum I had several Lists of various Archie series — the Betty & Veronica titles, Sabrina, Josie (& the Pussycats), Cheryl Blossom, Archie 1, Archie the Barbarian, Archie 3000, Man from R.I.V.E.R.D.A.L.E., Superteens, etc… some were by request and some I was looking for help completing … so I’m sort of going back to that, but hopefully more organized, and to keep it that way I’d like to use this thread as discussion, and one in Story Help just as a reference; (I’ll update there with any changes based on this thread) … not sure how well this will work but the idea is to have a nice reference for specific characters and “alternate reality” series that are scattered or hard to find.
 
The actual List thread is: Archie lists and Alterverses

DeCarlo Rules

Re: List discussion?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2016, 07:18:23 AM »
I think I reminded you of this last time, but you must have forgotten to update the list at that time. Sort of a fuzzy area here, melding two Archie Alterniverses together...

LITTLE ARCHIE (as Little Capt. Pureheart)
#40 - The Venomous Vixen (13)
#41 - The Mad Music Master (?)
#42 - The Attack of the Mole Men (10) [reprint in Best of Archie Comics Book 2, Archie Double Digest #260]

DeCarlo Rules

Re: List discussion?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2016, 02:53:07 AM »
Some additional notes on reprinted (and one original, otherwise unreprinted) Archie superhero stories. Dates listed here are those of the original publication of the story listed.

ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (AROUND THE WORLD WITH ARCHIE) #141   September-66   (cover only?) --- new story unlikely; reprint(s) possible

Captain Hero in "Hero To Go!!" (5 pages) was originally published in ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL) #142 (reprinted in ARCHIE'S SUPERTEENS #1)
Captain Hero in "The Sorcerer" (11 pages) was originally published in ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (WORLD OF JUGHEAD) #143 (unreprinted)

Evilheart in "The Tarantula's Trap" (11 pages) was originally published in REGGIE AND ME #23 (reprinted in ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL COMICS DIGEST #2). I am still unable to locate the original publication of Evilheart in "Chaos in a Common Cane", so that may indeed have been an unpublished story until it appeared in ARCHIE & FRIENDS DOUBLE DIGEST #16, unless it first appeared in AGS #141 (that issue remains un-indexed).

Pureheart makes a cameo appearance in both stories in LIFE WITH ARCHIE magazine #18 (May 2012):
Archie Marries Veronica: "Progress's Price Part Six: A Trip Down Memory Lane"
Archie Marries Betty: "Sacrifice and Salvation Part 6: Fancy Meeting You Here!"
(Both stories are reprinted in ARCHIE: THE MARRIED LIFE - BOOK 3 TPB.)

Super-Teen (or a version of Super-Teen, unnamed, with the slight costume alteration of the letters BC replacing ST in the heart of her uniform symbol) appears  in the Betty story "The Wish" (6 pages) by George Gladir and Jeff Shultz, in BETTY AND VERONICA #270 (Apr. 2014).

The prototype for Captain Hero ("Superdroop") appears in "Strangest Adventure" (18 pages) by George Gladir and Dan DeCarlo, in ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (THE WORLD OF JUGHEAD) #19, Dec. 1962 (and is reprinted in ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST #45, Mar. 1990).

The story that you're probably thinking of ("Son of Hercules") appears in JUGHEAD'S FANTASY #3 (Dec. 1960), not #1. It's otherwise unrelated as a superhero story. In it, Jughead concocts a potion that gives him super strength, but doesn't put on a costume or pursue a career as a supehero. Instead, he joins the football team. It's more in line with one of the more 'out-there' Jughead stories with a sci-fi premise.

Reprints:

ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL (Comics Digest) #1 (1978)    February-66    "The PH Factor"    (from LIFE WITH ARCHIE #46)
ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL (Comics Digest) #1 (1978)    August-66    "It All Began"    (from BETTY AND ME #3) SUPERTEEN
ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL (Comics Digest) #1 (1978)    October-66    "The Plight of the Bumblebee!"    (from REGGIE AND ME #20) EVILHEART
ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL (Comics Digest) #1 (1978)    February-67    "Terror in the Center Ring"    (from ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL #3)
ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL (Comics Digest) #1 (1978)    August-67    "The Decidedly Decent Demon"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #6)
ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL (Comics Digest) #1 (1978)    October-66    "Maid of Mischief"    (from BETTY AND ME #4) SUPERTEEN
ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL (Comics Digest) #1 (1978)    April-66    "Mad Doctor Doom's Dupe!"    (from LIFE WITH ARCHIE #48)

ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL COMICS DIGEST #2 (1979)    August-66    "Superteen Strikes Again"    (from BETTY AND ME #3) SUPERTEEN
ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL COMICS DIGEST #2 (1979)    April-67    "The Tarantula's Trap"    (11 pages) (from REGGIE AND ME #23) EVILHEART
           
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST #1 (1981)    June-67    "The Silencer Strikes!"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #5)
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST #1 (1981)    December-66    "Attack of the Monster Machines!"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #2)
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST #1 (1981)    February-67    "Terror in the Center Ring"    (from ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL #3)
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST #1 (1981)    April-67    "Ghastly Ghoul of Greymoor"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #4)
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST #1 (1981)    October-66    "The Plight of the Bumblebee!"    (from REGGIE AND ME #20)
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST #1 (1981)    October-66    "The Collector"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #1)
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST #1 (1981)    April-66    "Evilheart's Revenge"    (from LIFE WITH ARCHIE #48)
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST #1 (1981)    November-67    "The Bomb Master"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #7)
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST #1 (1981)    April-66    "Mad Doctor Doom's Dupe!"    (from LIFE WITH ARCHIE #48)
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST #1 (1981)    February-67    "False Scent"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #3)
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST #1 (1981)    April-67    "Dial 'M' For Monster!"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #4)

ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    October-65    "Cold Cash"    (from LIFE WITH ARCHIE #42)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    February-66    "The PH Factor"    (from LIFE WITH ARCHIE #46)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    March-66    "The Looker"    (from LIFE WITH ARCHIE #47)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    December-66    "The Attack of the Monster Machines"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #2)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    December-66    "Multiple Madness"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #2)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    February-67    "The Vanishing Villain"    (from ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL #3)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    February-67    "Terror in the Center Ring"    (from ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL #3)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    May-67    "Knack of Time"    (from ARCHIE AS CAPTAIN PUREHEART #4)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    May-67    "The Rattle of the Reptile"     (from ARCHIE AS CAPTAIN PUREHEART #4)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    August-67    "The Quest of Dr. Detest"    (from ARCHIE AS CAPTAIN PUREHEART #5)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    August-67    "The Devilish Disguiser"    (from ARCHIE AS CAPTAIN PUREHEART #5)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    November-67    "The Dirty Demon"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #7)
ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL TP (IDW, 2010)    November-67    "The Bomb Master"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #7)
           
ARCHIE'S SUPER TEENS (ARCHIE DIGITAL EXCLUSIVE)    May-67    "The Rattle of the Reptile"     (from ARCHIE AS CAPTAIN PUREHEART #4)
ARCHIE'S SUPER TEENS (ARCHIE DIGITAL EXCLUSIVE)    November-67    "The Bomb Master"    (from JUGHEAD AS CAPTAIN HERO #7)
ARCHIE'S SUPER TEENS (ARCHIE DIGITAL EXCLUSIVE)    February-67    "Terror in the Center Ring"    (from ARCHIE AS PUREHEART THE POWERFUL #3)
ARCHIE'S SUPER TEENS (ARCHIE DIGITAL EXCLUSIVE)    November-65    "Dinner for One"    (from Archie's Girls BETTY AND VERONICA #119)
ARCHIE'S SUPER TEENS (ARCHIE DIGITAL EXCLUSIVE)    February-67    "Food Demon"      (from BETTY AND ME #6)
ARCHIE'S SUPER TEENS (ARCHIE DIGITAL EXCLUSIVE)    October-65    "Cold Cash"    (from LIFE WITH ARCHIE #42)
ARCHIE'S SUPER TEENS (ARCHIE DIGITAL EXCLUSIVE)    April-66    "Evilheart's Revenge"    (from LIFE WITH ARCHIE #48)
ARCHIE'S SUPER TEENS (ARCHIE DIGITAL EXCLUSIVE)    January-12    "The Rampaging Rebound"     (from JUGHEAD'S DOUBLE DIGEST #175)
« Last Edit: May 01, 2016, 05:19:38 AM by DeCarlo Rules »

DeCarlo Rules

Re: List discussion?
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2016, 08:52:45 AM »
Captain Hero in "Hero To Go!!" (5 pages) was originally published in ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL) #142 (reprinted in ARCHIE'S SUPERTEENS #1)


Oops. Not quite. Just did some rechecking, and Captain Hero in "Hero to Go!!!" first appeared in JUGHEAD #126 (Nov. 1965), the very month after Pureheart first appeared in LIFE WITH ARCHIE #42. Is it the first official Captain Hero story in which Jughead is so named? That's what I'm trying to determine, but I have a vague recollection that there may have been another (where Jughead was a superhero named Captain Hero) that preceded it (and Pureheart) by months. I'll have to keep checking...

Oldiesmann

Re: List discussion?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2016, 06:40:52 PM »
Check out this blog post (and the ones following it). This should pretty much answer most of your questions about Pureheart and related characters :)

http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/226/

DeCarlo Rules

Re: List discussion?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2016, 04:23:08 AM »
Check out this blog post (and the ones following it). This should pretty much answer most of your questions about Pureheart and related characters :)

http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/226/

I have great respect for "Robby Reed" over at Dial B For Blog. In this one instance though, he missed the first appearance of the Captain Hero story "Hero To Go!!!" in JUGHEAD #126, of which the version in ARCHIE GIANT SERIES #142 appears to be a slightly altered reprint (he also failed to mention the earlier prototype Superdroop from "Strangest Adventure" in ARCHIE GIANT SERIES #19 that preceded Captain Hero, but as that super incarnation of Jughead wasn't actually named Captain Hero, maybe it's not that relevant). I originally missed it too, but somehow vaguely recollected reading the version of that story where he wore a slightly different costume, and it being credited as having been reprinted from a comic earlier than ARCHIE GIANT #142. At first I didn't even realize that they were the same story.

"Hero to Go!!!" (the original version from JUGHEAD #126) is reprinted in THE BEST OF ARCHIE COMICS: 75 YEARS 75 STORIES.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2016, 04:32:38 AM by DeCarlo Rules »

invisifan

Re: List discussion?
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2016, 04:49:34 AM »
I agree, the blog is a nice general overview, but I don’t see that it adds much of anything really …

Re: List discussion?
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2017, 07:33:38 PM »
I've been trying to track down the source of the reprints in my Archie digests and came across this page. FWIW, "Chaos in A Common Cane" did not appear for the first time in [size=0px]Archie and Friends Double Digest #16. That 13 pager also appears in Laugh Comics Digest #14, from 1978.[/size]

Re: List discussion?
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2017, 01:50:21 PM »
In the rebbot they appear again.
Jughead #6

 


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