We had an old thread celebrating Mr. Lodge on the old forum and we clearly need a new one.
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Happy Shark Week!
Just as Ronica seemed to have switched bodies with Jughead when she was hungry for pizza, Jughead went on ahead and swiched bodies with Reggie...:)
I did make a thread for Mr. Lodge here but it was more for his moments of rage, this story is more cold blooded. :)
The more I look at that last panel, the more it looks like the back of a dolphin. It's possible Mr. Lodge wanted to scare the bejeebers out of Jughead by having Jughead THINK it was a shark so Jug would get it through his head NOT to EVER try and pull that stunt off on him of all people...
I like your optimism. :)
Quote from: SAGG on July 01, 2016, 06:32:31 AM
The more I look at that last panel, the more it looks like the back of a dolphin. It's possible Mr. Lodge wanted to scare the bejeebers out of Jughead by having Jughead THINK it was a shark so Jug would get it through his head NOT to EVER try and pull that stunt off on him of all people...
No, I think the intention was that it's a shark. It's made ambiguous in the picture not intentionally, but accidentally. Because the animal is below the water level, you can't tell whether its tail fins are in aligned in the vertical plane (as a shark's would be) or the horizontal plane (as a dolphin's would be), and the the angle at which the bottom panel line cuts across the animal's body doesn't show the animal's snout, which should be the dead giveaway. That same bottom panel line is bisecting the animal in such a way that what would be the eye of a shark could easily be interpreted as the blowhole of a dolphin. The obfuscation doesn't seem deliberate, though.
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on July 02, 2016, 02:15:09 AM
Quote from: SAGG on July 01, 2016, 06:32:31 AM
The more I look at that last panel, the more it looks like the back of a dolphin. It's possible Mr. Lodge wanted to scare the bejeebers out of Jughead by having Jughead THINK it was a shark so Jug would get it through his head NOT to EVER try and pull that stunt off on him of all people...
No, I think the intention was that it's a shark. It's made ambiguous in the picture not intentionally, but accidentally. Because the animal is below the water level, you can't tell whether its tail fins are in aligned in the vertical plane (as a shark's would be) or the horizontal plane (as a dolphin's would be), and the the angle at which the bottom panel line cuts across the animal's body doesn't show the animal's snout, which should be the dead giveaway. That same bottom panel line is bisecting the animal in such a way that what would be the eye of a shark could easily be interpreted as the blowhole of a dolphin. The obfuscation doesn't seem deliberate, though.
Man, I'm telling you, I should be called The Peacemaker on these boards! :2funny: I'm making DR and daren the best of board-posting buddies! What else can I get them to agree on? :2funny:
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Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on July 02, 2016, 02:15:09 AM
Quote from: SAGG on July 01, 2016, 06:32:31 AM
The more I look at that last panel, the more it looks like the back of a dolphin. It's possible Mr. Lodge wanted to scare the bejeebers out of Jughead by having Jughead THINK it was a shark so Jug would get it through his head NOT to EVER try and pull that stunt off on him of all people...
No, I think the intention was that it's a shark. It's made ambiguous in the picture not intentionally, but accidentally. Because the animal is below the water level, you can't tell whether its tail fins are in aligned in the vertical plane (as a shark's would be) or the horizontal plane (as a dolphin's would be), and the the angle at which the bottom panel line cuts across the animal's body doesn't show the animal's snout, which should be the dead giveaway. That same bottom panel line is bisecting the animal in such a way that what would be the eye of a shark could easily be interpreted as the blowhole of a dolphin. The obfuscation doesn't seem deliberate, though.
Man, I'm telling you, I should be called The Peacemaker on these boards! :2funny: I'm making DR and daren the best of board-posting buddies! What else can I get them to agree on? :2funny:
I guess the picture is open to the interpretation of the viewer (not intentionally so, as I said), but the logic of the context of the story is that the funny gag ending would dictate that it's a shark. If we were trying to consider the characters as real people, that would essentially make Mr. Lodge a deliberate murderer, setting up Jughead to be eaten by a shark, but being logical and realistic isn't as important to an Archie story as being funny. Trying to combine the two ideas as you suggest seems to make it too complicated of a gag for anyone to get, even though it's allowing in a sense for both the original gag idea and a more realistic approach to the characters. That, and the fact that Jughead doesn't even react to the idea that "It's a shark!" in the final panel punchline, argues against it.
Nurse sharks (and others) are quite large with standard shark-appearance, but are essentially harmless ...
Quote from: invisifan on July 02, 2016, 02:15:46 PM
Nurse sharks (and others) are quite large with standard shark-appearance, but are essentially harmless ...
Great white sharks are quite large too, and essentially deadly. But since neither would fit in the Lodge family pool, I'll say neither has any bearing on this story.
Did you all see Mr. Lodge on Archie #12 variant . Damn, he looks handsome for a Grandpa. I can't wait to get that issue. The one where he behind Veronica & Archie & Betty are too.
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on July 02, 2016, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: invisifan on July 02, 2016, 02:15:46 PM
Nurse sharks (and others) are quite large with standard shark-appearance, but are essentially harmless ...
Great white sharks are quite large too, and essentially deadly. But since neither would fit in the Lodge family pool, I'll say neither has any bearing on this story.
How about a Caribbean reef shark. Non aggressive except when threatened and kind of looks like the one in the picture except not as fat. Mr. Lodge can give Jughead a good scare at least and if anything else happens, no liability because Mr. Lodge can say the sharks usually peaceful so Jughead must have got too hungry and attacked it.
Quote from: daren on July 03, 2016, 04:21:41 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on July 02, 2016, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: invisifan on July 02, 2016, 02:15:46 PM
Nurse sharks (and others) are quite large with standard shark-appearance, but are essentially harmless ...
Great white sharks are quite large too, and essentially deadly. But since neither would fit in the Lodge family pool, I'll say neither has any bearing on this story.
How about a Caribbean reef shark. Non aggressive except when threatened and kind of looks like the one in the picture except not as fat. Mr. Lodge can give Jughead a good scare at least and if anything else happens, no liability because Mr. Lodge can say the sharks usually peaceful so Jughead must have got too hungry and attacked it.
See, now that's what I'd call mental gymnastics. You're trying to jump through hoops here to reconcile your composite mental picture of Mr. Lodge's character, which is that he's not the type of person (even though he often gets short-tempered with Archie and Jughead) that would actually do anything to endanger someone's life.
With these earlier stories especially, there really IS no continuity, not even for the purposes of establishing a composite picture of a character. Crazy Betty and nice Betty both co-exist during this time period, as long as they inhabit the panel borders of different stories, along with nice guy Archie and obnoxious, selfish jerk Archie. The characters just do different things in different stories, all ultimately serving the purpose of a funny punchline, regardless of whether it fits their behavior in other stories.
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See, now that's what I'd call mental gymnastics. You're trying to jump through hoops
My favorite pastime.
Quote from: daren on July 01, 2016, 06:22:55 AM
I did make a thread for Mr. Lodge here but it was more for his moments of rage, this story is more cold blooded. :)
Whoops, my bad. I didn't know there was already a Mr. Lodge thread. :(
Anyway, here's another Mr. Lodge panel I like.
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Quote from: Thrillho on July 06, 2016, 12:51:37 AM
Quote from: daren on July 01, 2016, 06:22:55 AM
I did make a thread for Mr. Lodge here but it was more for his moments of rage, this story is more cold blooded. :)
Whoops, my bad. I didn't know there was already a Mr. Lodge thread. :(
Anyway, here's another Mr. Lodge panel I like.
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Haha, you have good taste! http://www.archiefans.com/all-about-archie/hirambo/ (http://www.archiefans.com/all-about-archie/hirambo/)
Quote from: daren on July 06, 2016, 02:17:28 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on July 06, 2016, 12:51:37 AM
Quote from: daren on July 01, 2016, 06:22:55 AM
I did make a thread for Mr. Lodge here but it was more for his moments of rage, this story is more cold blooded. :)
Whoops, my bad. I didn't know there was already a Mr. Lodge thread. :(
Anyway, here's another Mr. Lodge panel I like.
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Haha, you have good taste! http://www.archiefans.com/all-about-archie/hirambo/ (http://www.archiefans.com/all-about-archie/hirambo/)
Oops, I did it again. :buck2:
I can see how I missed your thread; I wouldn't know what Hirambo is without context but it is a very clever title. ;D
Quote from: Thrillho on July 06, 2016, 12:51:37 AM
Quote from: daren on July 01, 2016, 06:22:55 AM
I did make a thread for Mr. Lodge here but it was more for his moments of rage, this story is more cold blooded. :)
Whoops, my bad. I didn't know there was already a Mr. Lodge thread. :(
Anyway, here's another Mr. Lodge panel I like.
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And to imagine that
Riverdale's Hiram Lodge is also in jail right now. He is, isn't it? I don't really pay much attention to that mess, I only have that show on as background noise while I do something else.
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on March 22, 2017, 01:49:26 PM
Quote from: Thrillho on July 06, 2016, 12:51:37 AM
Quote from: daren on July 01, 2016, 06:22:55 AM
I did make a thread for Mr. Lodge here but it was more for his moments of rage, this story is more cold blooded. :)
Whoops, my bad. I didn't know there was already a Mr. Lodge thread. :(
Anyway, here's another Mr. Lodge panel I like.
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And to imagine that Riverdale's Hiram Lodge is also in jail right now. He is, isn't it? I don't really pay much attention to that mess, I only have that show on as background noise while I do something else.
LOL, you can admit you watch it! It's OK. We won't judge.
Quote from: Vegan Jughead on March 22, 2017, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on March 22, 2017, 01:49:26 PM
Quote from: Thrillho on July 06, 2016, 12:51:37 AM
Quote from: daren on July 01, 2016, 06:22:55 AM
I did make a thread for Mr. Lodge here but it was more for his moments of rage, this story is more cold blooded. :)
Whoops, my bad. I didn't know there was already a Mr. Lodge thread. :(
Anyway, here's another Mr. Lodge panel I like.
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F66.media.tumblr.com%2Fcc3ff81bc3398a4628fc7cd3f7475d13%2Ftumblr_o9lhjbOHqD1trm3ido1_1280.png&hash=4dfd3f1f1d37d66ea6de741cdd7a1d76a491a526)
And to imagine that Riverdale's Hiram Lodge is also in jail right now. He is, isn't it? I don't really pay much attention to that mess, I only have that show on as background noise while I do something else.
LOL, you can admit you watch it! It's OK. We won't judge.
I don't think I have ever denied that I do. I mentioned a while back, before you were even a member here, that I was going to watch and hate every minute of it. I do turn it on cause I want to see what else they fuck up but I don't really sit and watch. Like I said, it's pretty much just background noise :P