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Mr. Lodge's Greatest Hits

Started by Thrillho, June 30, 2016, 01:14:35 PM

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Thrillho

We had an old thread celebrating Mr. Lodge on the old forum and we clearly need a new one.








Happy Shark Week!

SAGG

Just as Ronica seemed to have switched bodies with Jughead when she was hungry for pizza, Jughead went on ahead and swiched bodies with Reggie...:)

daren

I did make a thread for Mr. Lodge here but it was more for his moments of rage, this story is more cold blooded.  :)

SAGG

The more I look at that last panel, the more it looks like the back of a dolphin. It's possible Mr. Lodge wanted to scare the bejeebers out of Jughead by having Jughead THINK it was a shark so Jug would get it through his head NOT to EVER try and pull that stunt off on him of all people...

daren


DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: SAGG on July 01, 2016, 06:32:31 AM
The more I look at that last panel, the more it looks like the back of a dolphin. It's possible Mr. Lodge wanted to scare the bejeebers out of Jughead by having Jughead THINK it was a shark so Jug would get it through his head NOT to EVER try and pull that stunt off on him of all people...

No, I think the intention was that it's a shark. It's made ambiguous in the picture not intentionally, but accidentally. Because the animal is below the water level, you can't tell whether its tail fins are in aligned in the vertical plane (as a shark's would be) or the horizontal plane (as a dolphin's would be), and the the angle at which the bottom panel line cuts across the animal's body doesn't show the animal's snout, which should be the dead giveaway. That same bottom panel line is bisecting the animal in such a way that what would be the eye of a shark could easily be interpreted as the blowhole of a dolphin. The obfuscation doesn't seem deliberate, though.

SAGG

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on July 02, 2016, 02:15:09 AM
Quote from: SAGG on July 01, 2016, 06:32:31 AM
The more I look at that last panel, the more it looks like the back of a dolphin. It's possible Mr. Lodge wanted to scare the bejeebers out of Jughead by having Jughead THINK it was a shark so Jug would get it through his head NOT to EVER try and pull that stunt off on him of all people...

No, I think the intention was that it's a shark. It's made ambiguous in the picture not intentionally, but accidentally. Because the animal is below the water level, you can't tell whether its tail fins are in aligned in the vertical plane (as a shark's would be) or the horizontal plane (as a dolphin's would be), and the the angle at which the bottom panel line cuts across the animal's body doesn't show the animal's snout, which should be the dead giveaway. That same bottom panel line is bisecting the animal in such a way that what would be the eye of a shark could easily be interpreted as the blowhole of a dolphin. The obfuscation doesn't seem deliberate, though.
Man, I'm telling you, I should be called The Peacemaker on these boards! :2funny: I'm making DR and daren the best of board-posting buddies! What else can I get them to agree on? :2funny:

DeCarlo Rules

#7
Quote from: SAGG on July 02, 2016, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on July 02, 2016, 02:15:09 AM
Quote from: SAGG on July 01, 2016, 06:32:31 AM
The more I look at that last panel, the more it looks like the back of a dolphin. It's possible Mr. Lodge wanted to scare the bejeebers out of Jughead by having Jughead THINK it was a shark so Jug would get it through his head NOT to EVER try and pull that stunt off on him of all people...

No, I think the intention was that it's a shark. It's made ambiguous in the picture not intentionally, but accidentally. Because the animal is below the water level, you can't tell whether its tail fins are in aligned in the vertical plane (as a shark's would be) or the horizontal plane (as a dolphin's would be), and the the angle at which the bottom panel line cuts across the animal's body doesn't show the animal's snout, which should be the dead giveaway. That same bottom panel line is bisecting the animal in such a way that what would be the eye of a shark could easily be interpreted as the blowhole of a dolphin. The obfuscation doesn't seem deliberate, though.
Man, I'm telling you, I should be called The Peacemaker on these boards! :2funny: I'm making DR and daren the best of board-posting buddies! What else can I get them to agree on? :2funny:

I guess the picture is open to the interpretation of the viewer (not intentionally so, as I said), but the logic of the context of the story is that the funny gag ending would dictate that it's a shark. If we were trying to consider the characters as real people, that would essentially make Mr. Lodge a deliberate murderer, setting up Jughead to be eaten by a shark, but being logical and realistic isn't as important to an Archie story as being funny. Trying to combine the two ideas as you suggest seems to make it too complicated of a gag for anyone to get, even though it's allowing in a sense for both the original gag idea and a more realistic approach to the characters. That, and the fact that Jughead doesn't even react to the idea that "It's a shark!" in the final panel punchline, argues against it.

invisifan

Nurse sharks (and others) are quite large with standard shark-appearance, but are essentially harmless ...

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: invisifan on July 02, 2016, 02:15:46 PM
Nurse sharks (and others) are quite large with standard shark-appearance, but are essentially harmless ...

Great white sharks are quite large too, and essentially deadly. But since neither would fit in the Lodge family pool, I'll say neither has any bearing on this story.

BettyReggie

#10
Did you all see Mr. Lodge on Archie #12 variant . Damn, he looks handsome for a Grandpa. I can't wait to get that issue. The one where he behind Veronica & Archie & Betty are too.

daren

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on July 02, 2016, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: invisifan on July 02, 2016, 02:15:46 PM
Nurse sharks (and others) are quite large with standard shark-appearance, but are essentially harmless ...

Great white sharks are quite large too, and essentially deadly. But since neither would fit in the Lodge family pool, I'll say neither has any bearing on this story.


How about a Caribbean reef shark. Non aggressive except when threatened and kind of looks like the one in the picture except not as fat. Mr. Lodge can give Jughead a good scare at least and if anything else happens, no liability because Mr. Lodge can say the sharks usually peaceful so Jughead must have got too hungry and attacked it.


















DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: daren on July 03, 2016, 04:21:41 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on July 02, 2016, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: invisifan on July 02, 2016, 02:15:46 PM
Nurse sharks (and others) are quite large with standard shark-appearance, but are essentially harmless ...

Great white sharks are quite large too, and essentially deadly. But since neither would fit in the Lodge family pool, I'll say neither has any bearing on this story.


How about a Caribbean reef shark. Non aggressive except when threatened and kind of looks like the one in the picture except not as fat. Mr. Lodge can give Jughead a good scare at least and if anything else happens, no liability because Mr. Lodge can say the sharks usually peaceful so Jughead must have got too hungry and attacked it.

See, now that's what I'd call mental gymnastics. You're trying to jump through hoops here to reconcile your composite mental picture of Mr. Lodge's character, which is that he's not the type of person (even though he often gets short-tempered with Archie and Jughead) that would actually do anything to endanger someone's life.

With these earlier stories especially, there really IS no continuity, not even for the purposes of establishing a composite picture of a character. Crazy Betty and nice Betty both co-exist during this time period, as long as they inhabit the panel borders of different stories, along with nice guy Archie and obnoxious, selfish jerk Archie. The characters just do different things in different stories, all ultimately serving the purpose of a funny punchline, regardless of whether it fits their behavior in other stories.

daren

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See, now that's what I'd call mental gymnastics. You're trying to jump through hoops


My favorite pastime.

Thrillho

Quote from: daren on July 01, 2016, 06:22:55 AM
I did make a thread for Mr. Lodge here but it was more for his moments of rage, this story is more cold blooded.  :)

Whoops, my bad. I didn't know there was already a Mr. Lodge thread.  :(

Anyway, here's another Mr. Lodge panel I like.


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