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Quote from: The Bee on April 13, 2016, 06:14:05 PM
I feel they must have slacked off quite a bit in the new rebooted series with trying to have a similar look between the artists that have done these books. With each artist change there seems to be a drastic change in the art style some good and some bad in my opinion. So it is either because they haven't developed that character model yet for the reboot or they just don't care anymore.

I think the people that followed Fiona tried to copy her a bit but all & all, I think character models are out the window for this reboot. It's also probably why the "classic style artists" aren't asked to touch this in any way as what we'll produce might slightly look like the classic style. It has to be "All New, All Different... Archie!"

In my opinion if the other Artists that have followed Fiona attempted to follow her style they failed miserably. Every time they change an artist it seems like a drastic change in style and consistency which is really turning me off to the entire project which I really wasn't that hyped for to begin with.

I actually thought Fiona Staples was the weakest art of the Archie reboot so far.  My favorite is Veronica Fish and I'm glad they made her the permanent artist.

Veronica Fish is also good, but she definitely went out on her own and there wasn't much consistency when she became the artist from the previous artist. I hope they stick with her through the duration to at least get that consistency in the art.

IMO, essentially the people that run Archie Comics with their business model have their heads up their asses 

Quote from: Mr.Lodge on April 13, 2016, 08:03:05 PM
IMO, essentially the people that run Archie Comics with their business model have their heads up their asses 

They seem to have turned on the fans who have supported them for so many years. No wonder the sales a dipping.

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Quote from: Mr.Lodge on April 13, 2016, 08:03:05 PM
IMO, essentially the people that run Archie Comics with their business model have their heads up their asses 

They seem to have turned on the fans who have supported them for so many years. No wonder the sales a dipping.

If the fans supported them so well for so many years, why would a reboot be necessary?  They didn't cancel the old series because they were selling too well.  I prefer the classic style as well, by far.  But I'm not going to pretend it was selling a ton for Archie because it wasn't. 

This is the only reboot I have any interest in. I'll be getting it for Adam Hughes' art.

Are Betty and Veronica even friends at this point in the rebooted Archie universe?

Quote from: HarryLuceyFan on April 18, 2016, 06:46:09 PM
Are Betty and Veronica even friends at this point in the rebooted Archie universe?

not yet

Well in Archie #3 Betty helped Veronica in the ladies room because her blouse was dirty but Veronica kinda dissed her by not taking her help.

I for one am really looking forward to this. I lived in South Africa until July of 2015 and Archie Comics were not widely available especially in the area where I was from. I never read a "Classic" Archie comic in my life. Of course while in South Africa I heard of Archie comics, but like I said they were just not available. The one webcomic I did read while in South Africa was Cottonstar. So when I came to America last July I saw the Archie #1 at a local comic shop and picked it up. I enjoyed it a lot and kept reading it. Then I noticed the Jughead character had his own comic coming out and got that and liked it and kept reading it. Now I am really looking forward to this Betty and Veronica comic. Maybe I am missing out not ever reading a "Classic" Archie comic or maybe not ever getting into it other than seeing images on the internet might be a good thing because it is not turning me off to this new style. Who knows.

Quote from: spazaru on April 14, 2016, 05:02:00 PM
If the fans supported them so well for so many years, why would a reboot be necessary?  They didn't cancel the old series because they were selling too well.  I prefer the classic style as well, by far.  But I'm not going to pretend it was selling a ton for Archie because it wasn't.

All comic fans are comic book readers, but not all comic book readers are fans. When the majority of floppy comic sales shifted from general retail outlets to comic book shops, the fans began to dominate readership of comics in the floppy format. That format of comics just isn't available in enough places other than comic shops. While Marvel and DC Comics can still do a reasonable amount of business by relying on their hardcore fans, Archie Comics cannot. There aren't enough hardcore fans of Archie to really depend on to publish a comic book. The backbone of Archie Comics' readership has always been composed of younger and casual readers, and only the digest format is reaching those readers. Right now with the reboot floppies, Archie Comics is trying to create a fanbase of comic shop customers who have never really existed before. There are certain Pavlovian-response sales techniques that are proven to work with this audience in the short term (the prime and most important one is to win the confidence of the retailers in ordering the first issues of new titles), but creating an audience where none exists is a tough trick to pull off, because if the sales don't follow on subsequent issues, retailers aren't going to continue to speculate. It's a tough market with too many publishers and too many titles.

Honestly, between the reboot and the classic Archie artists being let go, this has been the perfect stopping point for me.  After having read Archie Vol. 1 and noticing that I still haven't gotten around to finishing the last few digests I've picked up, I think I need a break from Archie.  The new direction of the company really has turned me off of the books. 

Quote from: GingerGal on April 21, 2016, 03:42:56 PM
I for one am really looking forward to this. I lived in South Africa until July of 2015 and Archie Comics were not widely available especially in the area where I was from. I never read a "Classic" Archie comic in my life. Of course while in South Africa I heard of Archie comics, but like I said they were just not available. The one webcomic I did read while in South Africa was Cottonstar. So when I came to America last July I saw the Archie #1 at a local comic shop and picked it up. I enjoyed it a lot and kept reading it. Then I noticed the Jughead character had his own comic coming out and got that and liked it and kept reading it. Now I am really looking forward to this Betty and Veronica comic. Maybe I am missing out not ever reading a "Classic" Archie comic or maybe not ever getting into it other than seeing images on the internet might be a good thing because it is not turning me off to this new style. Who knows.

Just curious, GingerGal. How is it that when you moved here last July, one of the first places you visited after getting here was a comic shop? I could understand if you had been a comic fan before leaving South Africa, then of course you'd want to check out a local one as soon after you'd moved as possible. Does there just happen to be one within walking distance of where you're living now? Or did reading webcomics make you want to check out what was available in print? Or do your parents read comics and they just took you along with them to the comic shop?

Quote from: Deb on April 29, 2016, 09:15:10 AM
Honestly, between the reboot and the classic Archie artists being let go, this has been the perfect stopping point for me.  After having read Archie Vol. 1 and noticing that I still haven't gotten around to finishing the last few digests I've picked up, I think I need a break from Archie.  The new direction of the company really has turned me off of the books.

I'm sorry to hear that, I like your posts. 

Quote from: daren on April 30, 2016, 03:26:34 AM

Quote from: Deb on April 29, 2016, 09:15:10 AM
Honestly, between the reboot and the classic Archie artists being let go, this has been the perfect stopping point for me.  After having read Archie Vol. 1 and noticing that I still haven't gotten around to finishing the last few digests I've picked up, I think I need a break from Archie.  The new direction of the company really has turned me off of the books.

I'm sorry to hear that, I like your posts. 

The stupid thing is...a couple days after writing that, what do I find myself reading before bed?  Archie's 1000  Page Comics Shindig!  I confuse myself sometimes...

Well, you'll always have the Archie Comics that you have, and you can reread them over. The 1000 Page digests are pretty much the same as pulling out all your digests from 3-4 months ago and rereading them. It's like they just glued them all together and cut out the ads and non-Archie stories (like Sabrina and Josie).

I guess at this time it looks like the 1000 Page digests and Giant Comics digests are the only classic Archie trade paperbacks that are selling, so those are the only ones they'll continue to put out.