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Anachronism Patrol

Started by ASS-P, October 05, 2018, 10:39:57 pm

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ASS-P

Let's look at reprinted Archie stories and wonder, from the references in them, whether they've been revised. Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! ;D :smitten: :D






  In B&V FRIENDS #264, a Dan DeCarlo-penciled story has Veronica looking for a collectible
car on the Web. Dan D. passed before the 20th Century was
over, and had left Archie on bad terms by then. Would a story from earlier in the 90s have dropped the term/concept? I was rather late, I suppose, getting on the Web - 2000-2001 - so that no doubt affects my viewpoint.
  A clearly early-60s story (Archie in letter/bowtie outfit) drops " groovy " as a slang phrase, in a panel showing
a big pre-'66-style big-finned car, as a matter of fact! Was " groovy " really Archie-level slang then?
  A " Gag Bag " has Archie/Jughead using a quadrophonic record player! :2funny:

















DeCarlo Rules

October 06, 2018, 06:21:43 am #1 Last Edit: October 06, 2018, 12:51:01 pm by DeCarlo Rules
Quote from: ASS-P on October 05, 2018, 10:39:57 pm
In B&V FRIENDS #264, a Dan DeCarlo-penciled story has Veronica looking for a collectible car on the Web. Dan D. passed before the 20th Century was over, and had left Archie on bad terms by then.  Would a story from earlier in the 90s have dropped the term/concept?


Well, yeah, there was that whole mess about DDC's claim to ownership of JOSIE because of the movie. But DeCarlo was still alive until December 18, 2001.

I didn't look up details about when the story in question first appeared, but I remember which one you're talking about. Doesn't seem like there's anything particularly implausible about Veronica wanting to purchase a very particular out-of-production make & model of car. Car buffs do that all the time, and always have, as far as I can tell. I think the story was pretty clear about the fact that Veronica had read up and researched a very particular car that she wanted; that exact one, not merely one similar.

Even if the story was from the '90s, so what? It's not like the internet was just invented or something. It's been around longer than MOST people have owned computers. Sure, there was even a time when everything was DOS-based... no graphical interface and HyperTextTransferProtocol. It was pure text-based computing. By 1990 the first web-browser had been created, and was in use by the general public by the end of 1991. Of course Archie and the gang were using computers in the 1990s... you just haven't read enough of those stories, I guess -- and in fact, it's really not hard at all to find Archie stories with PCs in them from the 1980s, either. Just because Dan DeCarlo didn't do any more work for Archie in the 2000s, there were still plenty of years in there for him to draw stories with PCs. Hell, even I've had an Amazon customer account since 1998, so believe me, by then there were plenty of people on the web shopping for stuff. Before that though, there were internet sites for buying and selling stuff, especially collectibles and cars.

Maybe it would even surprise you to learn that computer-generated comic book art existed in the 1980s. Mike Saenz created SHATTER on the first version of the Apple Macintosh home computer (memory capacity 128k), introduced in 1984. The artwork was printed out on an old-style low-resolution black-and-white dot-matrix printer and then hand-colored.

SHATTER Special #1 (June 1985)  First Comics

ASS-P

...Thank you for the correction regarding Dan D.'s death. I winged it, and didn't get around to looking it up afterwards.
  I did not think Veronica looking for a classic car was in any way odd, BTW, and I don't see how you reached that interpretation.

DeCarlo Rules

October 06, 2018, 11:59:27 pm #3 Last Edit: October 07, 2018, 04:57:05 pm by DeCarlo Rules
Okay, I've had a look again at the story, "Corvette Calamity". The two remarks that you found anachronistic are one where Veronica said "I've checked the internet!" and another where Betty said "She made me go through all the classifieds posted on the net - DAILY!  Do you know how many there are worldwide?!" I don't know the exact answer to Betty's question, but I did look up the story at the GCD (comics.org) and it was originally published in Betty and Veronica (Vol. 2) #141 (cover-dated Nov. 1999). That would make it quite possibly one of the very last dozen or so new stories by Dan DeCarlo that Archie Comics published. I can tell you this much... Betty must have been spending a lot of time searching the key words "1969 Corvette Stingray". A search for that exact phrase today brings me 5,020,000 results. Even back in 1999, Betty must not have been getting much sleep while Veronica was on her quest for the perfect '69 Stingray.

The internet itself was originally called ARPANET, a project of the US Defense Advanced Research Projects begun in the 1970s. Commercial Internet service providers (ISPs) began to emerge in the very late 1980s. ARPANET was decommissioned in 1990, by which time the World Wide Web had come into existence by way of the hypertext markup language and web browsers. By 1995 dot-com companies and the web were booming. Plenty of time for Betty to do her blogging, and Veronica to switch her 'virtual' shopping from the cable-based Home Shopping Network to the World Wide Web. And plenty of time for Dan DeCarlo to draw lots more stories between then and the time "Corvette Calamity" was published, if Archie's writers chose to write them.


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