Well she did have 37 Comics plus special issues that 48 pages. When Kevin only had 15 issues. He is getting his digital vomic which is cool. I just wish it was a real comic so I can put them in my comic frames. He looks handsome all grown up.

Quote from: BettyReggie on April 25, 2016, 04:22:30 PM
Well she did have 37 Comics plus special issues that 48 pages. When Kevin only had 15 issues. He is getting his digital vomic which is cool. I just wish it was a real comic so I can put them in my comic frames. He looks handsome all grown up.

Yep I saw they were doing a comic with Kevin as the main character. Well maybe since Cheryl Blossom seems to have a fan base they might make a comic down the road with her as the central character.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 25, 2016, 01:47:52 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
My original point was just that I consider Jellybean and Souphead to be about equal level characters in the Archieverse.

I like them both. But really what the topic started out as was the idea of a spinoff of LWA, and Jellybean strikes me as the most likely candidate as a spinoff set in THAT universe that wouldn't be a mere clone of the parent series.

You don't realize this, because you don't read other comic books. Characters, no matter what "level" you as a reader deign to assign to them, are not stuck at whatever level you pigeonhole them. All someone needs to do is come up with a new spin or direction for that character, and that can change everything, catapulting them from years of obscurity into the spotlight, and raising them up in audience popularity. It's happened over and over again with other companies' characters. It may never have happened at Archie, but maybe it's because they were afraid to try. There was a time when things like Daredevil, Captain America, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy were some of Marvel's poorest-selling and least-popular series.

I agree with what you're saying.  But for a company that has trouble selling books with Archie as the main character, I can't imagine a Jellybean spinoff being successful. 

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 04:33:26 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 25, 2016, 01:47:52 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
My original point was just that I consider Jellybean and Souphead to be about equal level characters in the Archieverse.

I like them both. But really what the topic started out as was the idea of a spinoff of LWA, and Jellybean strikes me as the most likely candidate as a spinoff set in THAT universe that wouldn't be a mere clone of the parent series.

You don't realize this, because you don't read other comic books. Characters, no matter what "level" you as a reader deign to assign to them, are not stuck at whatever level you pigeonhole them. All someone needs to do is come up with a new spin or direction for that character, and that can change everything, catapulting them from years of obscurity into the spotlight, and raising them up in audience popularity. It's happened over and over again with other companies' characters. It may never have happened at Archie, but maybe it's because they were afraid to try. There was a time when things like Daredevil, Captain America, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy were some of Marvel's poorest-selling and least-popular series.

I agree with what you're saying.  But for a company that has trouble selling books with Archie as the main character, I can't imagine a Jellybean spinoff being successful.

Since you said Archie comics has trouble selling comics with its central character Archie front and center what other character do you think has the best selling potential for the comics? Jughead, Betty, Veronica or Reggie?

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 25, 2016, 12:28:35 AM

The people making publishing decisions up there sure do change their minds a lot from one week to the next.

You have NO idea.

Describing Archie Comics' publishing strategies as "erratic" would be generous and kind.

It should speak big, thick volumes that we never, ever entertained the thought of pitching Die Kitty Die at what should've been our home base of operations. We really just couldn't do it.

And it's really working out for the very best! Stay tuned for some MAJOR Kitty announcement coming VERY, VERY soon!

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 25, 2016, 01:05:38 AM

The inclusion of Jellybean as a teenager in The Married Life is kind of important because it's the one thing in there that really tells you exactly when The Married Life is taking place compared to the classic Archie stories: Jellybean is 15 years older, so The Married Life is taking place 15 years after high school.

This is a new one on me. I don't remember a specific number of years ever being nailed down within the story. Maybe it was said in an issue before I started drawing.

I was always told, however, that the Married Life took place some five years or so after the wedding stories. I was always told to draw the characters as if they were in their early to mid twenties. I know we had characters doing things someone at that age might not necessarily be ready to do... such as run for mayor or run a major corporation... but I figured... y'know... It's Archie!

Quote from: irishmoxie on April 25, 2016, 07:35:45 AM

I think there was a Cosmo app game that failed. That couldn't've helped.

Much of the art for the graphics in that game was "re-purposed" from my work.

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 02:46:36 PM
This Cheryl Blossom hasn't made it into the new Archie and Jughead series yet. Being as popular as people say she is that surprises me a bit. Maybe she will be more a regular in the new Betty and Veronica series.

She will be a primary character in the new TV series (if it goes to air) at least initially ...

QuoteIs she as popular as Kevin Keller?

At her peak in the late '90s she was much more popular — though so was Archie comics in general ... and she got more exposure in the comics for longer, so it's probably not a fair comparison either way. She's likely to show up in the New Riverdale comics eventually (she's from a rival school in a more affluent suburb, so there's no contradiction in her not being there immediately)

Quote from: invisifan on April 25, 2016, 05:36:41 PM

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 02:46:36 PM
This Cheryl Blossom hasn't made it into the new Archie and Jughead series yet. Being as popular as people say she is that surprises me a bit. Maybe she will be more a regular in the new Betty and Veronica series.

She will be a primary character in the new TV series (if it goes to air) at least initially ...

QuoteIs she as popular as Kevin Keller?

At her peak in the late '90s she was much more popular — though so was Archie comics in general ... and she got more exposure in the comics for longer, so it's probably not a fair comparison either way. She's likely to show up in the New Riverdale comics eventually (she's from a rival school in a more affluent suburb, so there's no contradiction in her not being there immediately)

Even though this thread is a small sample it seems like Cheryl Blossom is still pretty popular to Archie fans. Maybe if Archie is not doing that well in sales they should look into that a bit. More of the characters that fans want to see.

ACP seems to worry about it a lot — as in panic — but their response is generally dictated by executives with no real idea of how they relate to reality trying to grab onto passing trends, with results most charitably described as "zen" or more accurately as decapitated chicken ...

Quote from: invisifan on April 25, 2016, 06:04:08 PM
ACP seems to worry about it a lot — as in panic — but their response is generally dictated by executives will no real idea of how they relate to reality trying to grab onto passing trends, with results most charitably described as "zen" or more accurately as decapitated chicken ...

Maybe these executives that are running the place now will run it straight into the ground and some other business executives who know what they are doing will buy them out. That might straighten them out.

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 04:49:36 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 04:33:26 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 25, 2016, 01:47:52 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
My original point was just that I consider Jellybean and Souphead to be about equal level characters in the Archieverse.

I like them both. But really what the topic started out as was the idea of a spinoff of LWA, and Jellybean strikes me as the most likely candidate as a spinoff set in THAT universe that wouldn't be a mere clone of the parent series.

You don't realize this, because you don't read other comic books. Characters, no matter what "level" you as a reader deign to assign to them, are not stuck at whatever level you pigeonhole them. All someone needs to do is come up with a new spin or direction for that character, and that can change everything, catapulting them from years of obscurity into the spotlight, and raising them up in audience popularity. It's happened over and over again with other companies' characters. It may never have happened at Archie, but maybe it's because they were afraid to try. There was a time when things like Daredevil, Captain America, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy were some of Marvel's poorest-selling and least-popular series.

I agree with what you're saying.  But for a company that has trouble selling books with Archie as the main character, I can't imagine a Jellybean spinoff being successful.

Since you said Archie comics has trouble selling comics with its central character Archie front and center what other character do you think has the best selling potential for the comics? Jughead, Betty, Veronica or Reggie?

My point was that they have trouble selling comics, period.  To try to use a fringe character most people have never heard of would be even harder. 

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 06:22:55 PM

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 04:49:36 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 04:33:26 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 25, 2016, 01:47:52 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
My original point was just that I consider Jellybean and Souphead to be about equal level characters in the Archieverse.

I like them both. But really what the topic started out as was the idea of a spinoff of LWA, and Jellybean strikes me as the most likely candidate as a spinoff set in THAT universe that wouldn't be a mere clone of the parent series.

You don't realize this, because you don't read other comic books. Characters, no matter what "level" you as a reader deign to assign to them, are not stuck at whatever level you pigeonhole them. All someone needs to do is come up with a new spin or direction for that character, and that can change everything, catapulting them from years of obscurity into the spotlight, and raising them up in audience popularity. It's happened over and over again with other companies' characters. It may never have happened at Archie, but maybe it's because they were afraid to try. There was a time when things like Daredevil, Captain America, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy were some of Marvel's poorest-selling and least-popular series.

I agree with what you're saying.  But for a company that has trouble selling books with Archie as the main character, I can't imagine a Jellybean spinoff being successful.

Since you said Archie comics has trouble selling comics with its central character Archie front and center what other character do you think has the best selling potential for the comics? Jughead, Betty, Veronica or Reggie?

My point was that they have trouble selling comics, period.  To try to use a fringe character most people have never heard of would be even harder.

It seems like the main characters in the comics are Archie, Jughead, Betty, Veronica, and Reggie. The first 4 already or will have a new comic coming. Do you think they will follow with the final main character Reggie at some point with a new comic of his own?

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 06:26:42 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 06:22:55 PM

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 04:49:36 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 04:33:26 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 25, 2016, 01:47:52 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
My original point was just that I consider Jellybean and Souphead to be about equal level characters in the Archieverse.

I like them both. But really what the topic started out as was the idea of a spinoff of LWA, and Jellybean strikes me as the most likely candidate as a spinoff set in THAT universe that wouldn't be a mere clone of the parent series.

You don't realize this, because you don't read other comic books. Characters, no matter what "level" you as a reader deign to assign to them, are not stuck at whatever level you pigeonhole them. All someone needs to do is come up with a new spin or direction for that character, and that can change everything, catapulting them from years of obscurity into the spotlight, and raising them up in audience popularity. It's happened over and over again with other companies' characters. It may never have happened at Archie, but maybe it's because they were afraid to try. There was a time when things like Daredevil, Captain America, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy were some of Marvel's poorest-selling and least-popular series.

I agree with what you're saying.  But for a company that has trouble selling books with Archie as the main character, I can't imagine a Jellybean spinoff being successful.

Since you said Archie comics has trouble selling comics with its central character Archie front and center what other character do you think has the best selling potential for the comics? Jughead, Betty, Veronica or Reggie?

My point was that they have trouble selling comics, period.  To try to use a fringe character most people have never heard of would be even harder.

It seems like the main characters in the comics are Archie, Jughead, Betty, Veronica, and Reggie. The first 4 already or will have a new comic coming. Do you think they will follow with the final main character Reggie at some point with a new comic of his own?

I doubt it.  Reggie had his own comic before, no one bought it and that's why it went away.  They need to concentrate on making Archie, Jughead and B&V good and worry about anything else later.  I'm more surprised they aren't doing a new Josie and the Pussycats comic.  I think that has more potential than Jughead to sell. 

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 06:28:55 PM

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 06:26:42 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 06:22:55 PM

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 04:49:36 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 04:33:26 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 25, 2016, 01:47:52 PM

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
My original point was just that I consider Jellybean and Souphead to be about equal level characters in the Archieverse.

I like them both. But really what the topic started out as was the idea of a spinoff of LWA, and Jellybean strikes me as the most likely candidate as a spinoff set in THAT universe that wouldn't be a mere clone of the parent series.

You don't realize this, because you don't read other comic books. Characters, no matter what "level" you as a reader deign to assign to them, are not stuck at whatever level you pigeonhole them. All someone needs to do is come up with a new spin or direction for that character, and that can change everything, catapulting them from years of obscurity into the spotlight, and raising them up in audience popularity. It's happened over and over again with other companies' characters. It may never have happened at Archie, but maybe it's because they were afraid to try. There was a time when things like Daredevil, Captain America, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy were some of Marvel's poorest-selling and least-popular series.

I agree with what you're saying.  But for a company that has trouble selling books with Archie as the main character, I can't imagine a Jellybean spinoff being successful.

Since you said Archie comics has trouble selling comics with its central character Archie front and center what other character do you think has the best selling potential for the comics? Jughead, Betty, Veronica or Reggie?

My point was that they have trouble selling comics, period.  To try to use a fringe character most people have never heard of would be even harder.

It seems like the main characters in the comics are Archie, Jughead, Betty, Veronica, and Reggie. The first 4 already or will have a new comic coming. Do you think they will follow with the final main character Reggie at some point with a new comic of his own?

I doubt it.  Reggie had his own comic before, no one bought it and that's why it went away.  They need to concentrate on making Archie, Jughead and B&V good and worry about anything else later.  I'm more surprised they aren't doing a new Josie and the Pussycats comic.  I think that has more potential than Jughead to sell.

Maybe that could be the next step if like you said the 3 continue to be good and people want more.