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Riverdale TV Series

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60sBettyandReggie

#390
Quote from: Thestereotypebuster on January 11, 2017, 09:29:26 PM
I mean, we wouldn't want stories about Archie driving a jalopy and the characters making jokes about women drivers now a days, would we?


I would. I like those stories. There's something really endearing about them.
But I get what you're saying. And yet, even if throughout the years Archie has always been trying to be up to date with the modern times, the comics still feel vintage-y and nostalgic. At least that's how I feel about them. I don't know how to explain it exactly. Like for example, me as a kid in the 1980s reading 80s Archie stories, I never felt like they were modern. They always had that old (in a good way) feeling. Same in the 90s, same in the early 2000s. That is what I love about them. The classic, vintage, innocent feeling. That's what this new spin is lacking.

Thestereotypebuster

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on January 11, 2017, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: apple on January 11, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
hm interesting how going against the norm, being different, and "going your own way" absolves you of all sexuality.


Like in language. We have words. That mean things. You can say you don't fit into any category all day long but in all honesty, you still actually do.

If Jughead had shown interest in girls none of you would be avoiding calling him straight just because weird people don't fit into labels. But whatever.
um, but he has shown interest in girls  ::)
I personally am not avoiding it. JUGHEAD IS STRAIGHT! There  ;)
Reggie also showed interest in a lamp post once and yet. . .

Thestereotypebuster

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on January 11, 2017, 10:35:30 PM
Quote from: Thestereotypebuster on January 11, 2017, 09:29:26 PM
I mean, we wouldn't want stories about Archie driving a jalopy and the characters making jokes about women drivers now a days, would we?

I would. I like those stories. There's something really endearing about them.
But I get what you're saying. And yet, even if throughout the years Archie has always been trying to be up to date with the modern times, the comics still feel vintage-y and nostalgic. At least that's how I feel about them. I don't know how to explain it exactly. Like for example, me as a kid in the 1980s reading 80s Archie stories, I never felt like they were modern. They always had that old (in a good way) feeling. Same in the 90s, same in the early 2000s. That is what I love about them. The classic, vintage, innocent feeling. That's what this new spin is lacking.


Your right about the vintage feeling, and I think that's why they decided to keep printing new stories in the house style in the digests.


I'm not sure how the new comics are any less innocent though  ???

60sBettyandReggie

Quote from: Thestereotypebuster on January 11, 2017, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on January 11, 2017, 10:35:30 PM
Quote from: Thestereotypebuster on January 11, 2017, 09:29:26 PM
I mean, we wouldn't want stories about Archie driving a jalopy and the characters making jokes about women drivers now a days, would we?

I would. I like those stories. There's something really endearing about them.
But I get what you're saying. And yet, even if throughout the years Archie has always been trying to be up to date with the modern times, the comics still feel vintage-y and nostalgic. At least that's how I feel about them. I don't know how to explain it exactly. Like for example, me as a kid in the 1980s reading 80s Archie stories, I never felt like they were modern. They always had that old (in a good way) feeling. Same in the 90s, same in the early 2000s. That is what I love about them. The classic, vintage, innocent feeling. That's what this new spin is lacking.


Your right about the vintage feeling, and I think that's why they decided to keep printing new stories in the house style in the digests.


I'm not sure how the new comics are any less innocent though  ???


I'm talking about the TV Series. This is the TV Series thread.






60sBettyandReggie

Quote from: Thestereotypebuster on January 11, 2017, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on January 11, 2017, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: apple on January 11, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
hm interesting how going against the norm, being different, and "going your own way" absolves you of all sexuality.


Like in language. We have words. That mean things. You can say you don't fit into any category all day long but in all honesty, you still actually do.

If Jughead had shown interest in girls none of you would be avoiding calling him straight just because weird people don't fit into labels. But whatever.
um, but he has shown interest in girls  ::)
I personally am not avoiding it. JUGHEAD IS STRAIGHT! There  ;)
Reggie also showed interest in a lamp post once and yet. . .


Come on, now. That's just silly ::)  and it is not the same thing, at all.

Thestereotypebuster

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on January 11, 2017, 10:45:49 PM
Quote from: Thestereotypebuster on January 11, 2017, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on January 11, 2017, 10:35:30 PM
Quote from: Thestereotypebuster on January 11, 2017, 09:29:26 PM
I mean, we wouldn't want stories about Archie driving a jalopy and the characters making jokes about women drivers now a days, would we?

I would. I like those stories. There's something really endearing about them.
But I get what you're saying. And yet, even if throughout the years Archie has always been trying to be up to date with the modern times, the comics still feel vintage-y and nostalgic. At least that's how I feel about them. I don't know how to explain it exactly. Like for example, me as a kid in the 1980s reading 80s Archie stories, I never felt like they were modern. They always had that old (in a good way) feeling. Same in the 90s, same in the early 2000s. That is what I love about them. The classic, vintage, innocent feeling. That's what this new spin is lacking.


Your right about the vintage feeling, and I think that's why they decided to keep printing new stories in the house style in the digests.


I'm not sure how the new comics are any less innocent though  ???


I'm talking about the TV Series. This is the TV Series thread.
Ah, you're right. We just got so off topic

Thestereotypebuster

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on January 11, 2017, 10:46:23 PM
Quote from: Thestereotypebuster on January 11, 2017, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on January 11, 2017, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: apple on January 11, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
hm interesting how going against the norm, being different, and "going your own way" absolves you of all sexuality.


Like in language. We have words. That mean things. You can say you don't fit into any category all day long but in all honesty, you still actually do.

If Jughead had shown interest in girls none of you would be avoiding calling him straight just because weird people don't fit into labels. But whatever.
um, but he has shown interest in girls  ::)
I personally am not avoiding it. JUGHEAD IS STRAIGHT! There  ;)
Reggie also showed interest in a lamp post once and yet. . .


Come on, now. That's just silly ::)  and it is not the same thing, at all.
I know it's silly  :P
That's what I'm saying. Stranger things have happened than Jughead being ace.


apple

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on January 11, 2017, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: apple on January 11, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
hm interesting how going against the norm, being different, and "going your own way" absolves you of all sexuality.


Like in language. We have words. That mean things. You can say you don't fit into any category all day long but in all honesty, you still actually do.

If Jughead had shown interest in girls none of you would be avoiding calling him straight just because weird people don't fit into labels. But whatever.
um, but he has shown interest in girls  ::)
I personally am not avoiding it. JUGHEAD IS STRAIGHT! There  ;)
The WRITER of JUGHEADS OWN SERIES CONFIRMED HIS AS ASEXUAL. What more proof do you need for him to be '''''not straight'''''. He looks at a girl in a spin off where he weirdly gets with Archie's great grandaughter isn't anymore valid than the new series?


Literally there are so many Archie canons that Jughead has probably been asexual, straight but just girl shy, gay, and maybe even bi in the minds of the respective writers. I don't see how the ones where he is straight is 'more canon' than any other interpretation, sweetie :)
<3 archie/jughead <3

apple

I love how gay riverdale is going to be lol
<3 archie/jughead <3

60sBettyandReggie

Quote from: apple on January 11, 2017, 11:01:56 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on January 11, 2017, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: apple on January 11, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
hm interesting how going against the norm, being different, and "going your own way" absolves you of all sexuality.


Like in language. We have words. That mean things. You can say you don't fit into any category all day long but in all honesty, you still actually do.

If Jughead had shown interest in girls none of you would be avoiding calling him straight just because weird people don't fit into labels. But whatever.
um, but he has shown interest in girls  ::)
I personally am not avoiding it. JUGHEAD IS STRAIGHT! There  ;)
The WRITER of JUGHEADS OWN SERIES CONFIRMED HIS AS ASEXUAL. What more proof do you need for him to be '''''not straight'''''. He looks at a girl in a spin off where he weirdly gets with Archie's great grandaughter isn't anymore valid than the new series?


Literally there are so many Archie canons that Jughead has probably been asexual, straight but just girl shy, gay, and maybe even bi in the minds of the respective writers. I don't see how the ones where he is straight is 'more canon' than any other interpretation, sweetie :)


Let's not forget 75 years of history, cutie pie :)

60sBettyandReggie

Anyway, this thing is getting heated.
So I'll just leave you a pic that I think you newbies will like (or not, I don't know anymore)

steveinthecity

Who do I need to pander to in order to be called Cuddle Cakes or Dumpling?
Comics!

DeCarlo Rules

#402
Quote from: apple on January 11, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
hm interesting how going against the norm, being different, and "going your own way" absolves you of all sexuality.

Like in language. We have words. That mean things. You can say you don't fit into any category all day long but in all honesty, you still actually do.

If Jughead had shown interest in girls none of you would be avoiding calling him straight just because weird people don't fit into labels. But whatever.

I think I already covered this in a post above, but he has shown interest in girls. But only in SOME stories. In others he's a "woman-hater", and other characters in the story specifically identify him by that label. I probably can't find a specific example to post here, or even more difficult to pin down, one where he identifies himself as a woman-hater (although it's certainly easy to find stories where he expresses his criticism of the female gender as a whole), but I can remember reading stories like that. The ones where he shows interest in girls are much easier to identify, and some of them are harder to quantify. One subject of debate revolves around Jughead's love relationship with January McAndrews, Marshall of the Time Police and a future descendant of Archie Andrews, which has raised a few eyebrows among people wondering just what exactly is going on there. There are even stories where Jughead dates Big Ethel and winds up having a good time. But it seems that in some stories he most definitely IS straight. Another good example of those would be LIFE WITH ARCHIE magazine (a.k.a. THE MARRIED LIFE in TP), where Jughead is married to Midge Klump.

Upsiditus

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on January 11, 2017, 10:35:30 PM
Quote from: Thestereotypebuster on January 11, 2017, 09:29:26 PM
I mean, we wouldn't want stories about Archie driving a jalopy and the characters making jokes about women drivers now a days, would we?


I would. I like those stories. There's something really endearing about them.
But I get what you're saying. And yet, even if throughout the years Archie has always been trying to be up to date with the modern times, the comics still feel vintage-y and nostalgic. At least that's how I feel about them. I don't know how to explain it exactly. Like for example, me as a kid in the 1980s reading 80s Archie stories, I never felt like they were modern. They always had that old (in a good way) feeling. Same in the 90s, same in the early 2000s. That is what I love about them. The classic, vintage, innocent feeling. That's what this new spin is lacking.


   When fictional stories are set in the present, they are not supposed to be any specific year, from what I understand.

Upsiditus

  I think the Betty&Veronica reboot comics are not as child friendly as they used to be.  I read #2 recently and was disturbed by this. 

   I think it would have been interesting if the Riverdale producers had hired one actress to play both Betty & Veronica and just had her wear different wigs and change her voice for each character.  It would have been more faithful to the comics.  :) ;)

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