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Author Topic: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.  (Read 7120 times)

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terrence12

something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« on: May 15, 2016, 10:52:21 AM »
Hey guys i am back now i know that erasing my old account in this forum is unforgivable but at least i started new with a same old username but with a new password so anyway back to my current topic.

As you know the good news is that CW greenlights riverdale which is great  :)  but there is something that bothers me  ???

Seeing that  riverdale will  just a  drama series with dark elements it made me wonder, Shouldn't CW and archie comics at least make a archie riverdale series as a "teen sitcom" or maybe a tween sitcom that should be aired on nickelodeon or disney channel instead.


I mean sure we want drama but make the archie live action series as a  comedy series, Why? because the main source material of archie comics (minus the spinoffs,the adventure,the horror  and action version)  are always comedy which was the reason why it was successful back in the day.


I mean why would archie comics and CW make a drama version of archie riverdale series without laughs  i mean sure the company gains success thanks to its drama spinoff the married life and the horror title afterlife with archie but to have  a series with dark elements and have the characters find out  dark secrets in this town and not be faithful or loosely faithful to the source material that's unforgivable ,It needs to be a teen sitcom with a element that the source material needs "comedy" i mean yes we also need little of the drama elements including teenage issues for some special episodes if it is a "teen sitcom" .So what i am saying is that the live action archie series should be comedy not some dark teen drama series.


and if this show gets mixed reviews and will never be renewed for a future season  then archie comics and CW should regret that they should have made a teen  sitcom instead or at least  make it as a disney channel/disney XD/Nickelodeon sitcom.   
« Last Edit: May 15, 2016, 10:54:09 AM by terrence12 »

DeCarlo Rules

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2016, 11:22:44 AM »
Why ACP would make an Archie series without laughs is basically what's been bugging me since the reboot. Since a lot of people seem to be fine with it (indeed, better than fine - they seem to prefer it that way), I've stopped questioning it. I'll never understand it, but apparently that's what people want.

terrence12

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2016, 11:33:11 AM »
Why ACP would make an Archie series without laughs is basically what's been bugging me since the reboot. Since a lot of people seem to be fine with it (indeed, better than fine - they seem to prefer it that way), I've stopped questioning it. I'll never understand it, but apparently that's what people want.


Yes because this archie reboot has the element of comedy in it with a bit of drama including jughead.So why can't they make a sitcom instead with a bit of drama.Heck why would poeple want a archie series without comedy.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2016, 12:00:10 PM »
Why ACP would make an Archie series without laughs is basically what's been bugging me since the reboot. Since a lot of people seem to be fine with it (indeed, better than fine - they seem to prefer it that way), I've stopped questioning it. I'll never understand it, but apparently that's what people want.


Yes because this archie reboot has the element of comedy in it with a bit of drama including jughead.So why can't they make a sitcom instead with a bit of drama.Heck why would poeple want a archie series without comedy.


The reboot is comedy? Guess I missed it, or maybe they just left it out of the first 2 issues. Those were the only ones I read. There's a little bit in Jughead, but 'way too little. Can't just be me, because when Jonathan was commenting on the Riverdale Podcast about what he felt was lacking in ARCHIE #8, he specifically mentioned the lack of comedy. I guess maybe all the comedy must have occurred (if you say so) between issues 3 and 7, but it seems like an odd way to run a comic book.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2016, 12:17:37 PM by DeCarlo Rules »

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Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2016, 12:22:16 PM »
Why ACP would make an Archie series without laughs is basically what's been bugging me since the reboot. Since a lot of people seem to be fine with it (indeed, better than fine - they seem to prefer it that way), I've stopped questioning it. I'll never understand it, but apparently that's what people want.


Yes because this archie reboot has the element of comedy in it with a bit of drama including jughead.So why can't they make a sitcom instead with a bit of drama.Heck why would poeple want a archie series without comedy.


The reboot is comedy? Guess I missed it, or maybe they just left it out of the first 2 issues. Those were the only ones I read. There's a little bit in Jughead, but 'way too little. Can't just be me, because when Jonathan was commenting on the Riverdale Podcast about what he felt was lacking in ARCHIE #8, he specifically mentioned the lack of comedy. I guess maybe all the comedy must have occurred (if you say so) between issues 3 and 7, but it seems like an odd way to run a comic book.


Comedy is in the eye of the beholder.  I've found comedy sprinkled throughout all the issues.  I pointed out to Jonathan a gag I thought he missed in the latest issue and he said he did miss it and that he was in a grumpy mood when he read it and that he would give it another try.  Hopefully he'll let us know what he thinks after he does. 

longtermarchie101

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2016, 12:22:54 PM »
they greenlit this sludge?!... my god archie comics, warner brothers, the cw... what are you guys doing... I know I cant be the only one alienated by this...
R I P archiecomics 1939 - 2016.

terrence12

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2016, 12:32:40 PM »
The reboot is comedy? Guess I missed it, or maybe they just left it out of the first 2 issues. Those were the only ones I read. There's a little bit in Jughead, but 'way too little. Can't just be me, because when Jonathan was commenting on the Riverdale Podcast about what he felt was lacking in ARCHIE #8, he specifically mentioned the lack of comedy. I guess maybe all the comedy must have occurred (if you say so) between issues 3 and 7, but it seems like an odd way to run a comic book.


Well yeah the archie reboot comic is comedy but has a tints of drama in it .


Comedy is in the eye of the beholder.  I've found comedy sprinkled throughout all the issues.  I pointed out to Jonathan a gag I thought he missed in the latest issue and he said he did miss it and that he was in a grumpy mood when he read it and that he would give it another try.  Hopefully he'll let us know what he thinks after he does.

True.




they greenlit this sludge?!... my god archie comics, warner brothers, the cw... what are you guys doing... I know I cant be the only one alienated by this..


Yeah now you know how i feel.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2016, 12:34:16 PM by terrence12 »

DeCarlo Rules

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2016, 12:44:01 PM »
Why ACP would make an Archie series without laughs is basically what's been bugging me since the reboot. Since a lot of people seem to be fine with it (indeed, better than fine - they seem to prefer it that way), I've stopped questioning it. I'll never understand it, but apparently that's what people want.


Yes because this archie reboot has the element of comedy in it with a bit of drama including jughead.So why can't they make a sitcom instead with a bit of drama.Heck why would poeple want a archie series without comedy.


The reboot is comedy? Guess I missed it, or maybe they just left it out of the first 2 issues. Those were the only ones I read. There's a little bit in Jughead, but 'way too little. Can't just be me, because when Jonathan was commenting on the Riverdale Podcast about what he felt was lacking in ARCHIE #8, he specifically mentioned the lack of comedy. I guess maybe all the comedy must have occurred (if you say so) between issues 3 and 7, but it seems like an odd way to run a comic book.


Comedy is in the eye of the beholder.  I've found comedy sprinkled throughout all the issues.  I pointed out to Jonathan a gag I thought he missed in the latest issue and he said he did miss it and that he was in a grumpy mood when he read it and that he would give it another try.  Hopefully he'll let us know what he thinks after he does.


Well, terrence surprised me. Nobody really seems to mention anything about the comedy in any of their posts, and invisifan seems to be praising it for the qualities most diametrically opposed to that... grounded, reality-based, continuity-driven etc., all the things you'd associate with drama. He wants to keep the fantasy out of it, because that would seem to spoil any grounded, realistic, dramatic suspension of disbelief for him (and yet, he reads superhero comics, and they have the fantasy element, generally without comedy). I guess outright slapstick comedy would spoil the grounded realism as well. People seem to be liking it specifically for the drama/continuity, unless I'm completely misreading people's comments. I don't mind seeing a little bit of that thrown in here and there just for the sake of contrast and to break things up a little, but it's not what I read Archie Comics for. It was okay just for LIFE WITH ARCHIE, I guess, because the whole point of that was everything about it was different from the 'standard' Archie comic as possible. (Just like AFTERLIFE, the whole point is to contrast against the usual.)To be honest, I think LWA could have dialed back the angsty-ness a couple notches and thrown in a comedy bit or two now and then, just to remind people it actually was an Archie Comic. But then again, it wasn't a mainstream Archie comic book, or pretending to be one.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2016, 12:46:23 PM by DeCarlo Rules »

DeCarlo Rules

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2016, 12:49:27 PM »
The reboot is comedy? Guess I missed it, or maybe they just left it out of the first 2 issues. Those were the only ones I read. There's a little bit in Jughead, but 'way too little. Can't just be me, because when Jonathan was commenting on the Riverdale Podcast about what he felt was lacking in ARCHIE #8, he specifically mentioned the lack of comedy. I guess maybe all the comedy must have occurred (if you say so) between issues 3 and 7, but it seems like an odd way to run a comic book.

Well yeah the archie reboot comic is comedy but has a tints of drama in it .


Seriously, terrence, you are the first person I've read to even mention the humor, never mind to characterize it as a comedy overall. I certainly didn't find that to be the case with the first two issues.

invisifan

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2016, 01:00:51 PM »
Sitcoms on TV are on a decline — the ones that make it aren’t as mundane as Archie seems after 75 years … and as for more general “teen” shows, “Glee” and “High School Musical” showed they can work, but also sucked the air out of the room as far as competition — they also showed it’s far to easy to overdo it, or do it wrong, so no one wants to try.
 
@DCR — I’m saying it needs a consistent feel — throwing in actual magic stuff ruins the feel they are trying for, comedy wouldn’t do that — there’s already some in there, and it could be cranked up quite a bit and be enjoyable … but it should be grounded in reality since that’s the tone they’ve set; if you want a magic/fantasy/superhero series, start a new comic in another Archiverse like they have for ChAoS & AWA

invisifan

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2016, 01:02:42 PM »
Well yeah the archie reboot comic is comedy but has a tints of drama in it .
Seriously, terrence, you are the first person I've read to even mention the humor, never mind to characterize it as a comedy overall. I certainly didn't find that to be the case with the first two issues.
It’s a sort of teen romcom … in the modern rather than classic Archie sense …

spazaru

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Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2016, 01:29:18 PM »
Well yeah the archie reboot comic is comedy but has a tints of drama in it .
Seriously, terrence, you are the first person I've read to even mention the humor, never mind to characterize it as a comedy overall. I certainly didn't find that to be the case with the first two issues.
It’s a sort of teen romcom … in the modern rather than classic Archie sense …


It's kind of giving me a My So Called Life vibe, if you've ever seen that show. 

invisifan

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2016, 01:48:50 PM »
It's kind of giving me a My So Called Life vibe, if you've ever seen that show.
I don’t watch a lot of TV — and particularly avoid sitcoms … though the name rings a bell …

BettyReggie

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2016, 01:57:33 PM »
I have My So Called Life on DVD, That was a great show. It was sad it only lasted 1 season.

irishmoxie

Re: something about CW riverdale that bothers me.
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2016, 04:32:57 PM »
The new Riverdale comic/Archie reboot reads like a YA novel with all the "teen" slang and angst. There are moments of comedy in there but it's mostly in the art, not the dialogue i.e. Archie setting ice cream on fire, Archie being flattened by a bulldozer.


The Riverdale TV show feels a lot like The OC (with the new Betty being Marissa) and a little of Dawson's Creek (with the whole dating your teacher thing).

 


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