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The Everyone is Crazy/Best and Worst of Everyone Thread!

Started by BlueBomber2015, May 13, 2016, 10:35:56 PM

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BlueBomber2015

Well, it had to be done, given the success of the Crazy Betty/Villainous Veronica thread after merging two popular threads in the wake of the Server Purge.


As anyone notices, this is a companion thread to the Crazy Betty/Villainous Veronica thread, this time, about everyone else in the Archie world. This thread will highlight pics of the best and worst/craziness of the other Archie characters other than Betty and Veronica.  Yes, it is agreed that everyone in Riverdale can lose it and be loopy, hey, they can't be without their faults anyway!


Post away!

daren

Yeah! An Archie avalanche of A-holes!

















I love a father who has his priorities straight!  :D




Since all the main five have their own 'worst' threads now I didn't use any of them, is this supposed to be for all characters?





DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: daren on May 14, 2016, 09:50:51 PM
Yeah! An Archie avalanche of A-holes!



This one isn't a gag cover. How is Archie being an a-hole here? Searching for Chuck, who he knows is missing, together with Coach Kleats? Could it be you just pasted the wrong image link there? That story was just reprinted in a digest recently, and Archie is the genuine hero who saves a troublemaker (not seen on this cover) who cheats and rearranges the signs for the ski course trail in order lead his competition astray, but instead winds up endangering his own life through a miscalculation. The cheater's ski partner (not seen on this cover either) leaves him in the lurch to fend for himself while he races off to the finish line, but Archie stops to help him, regardless of the fact that it's delaying him from finishing the race, because helping someone in trouble is more important to him than winning a ski race. A particularly bad example that pointedly refutes your contention, if you're trying to make a point of Archie a-holeness. (The cheaters aren't seen on the cover because they wouldn't be recognized by Archie readers. Instead the cover shows a scene from earlier in the story, where the swapped trail signs cause Chuck to have an accident.)

invisifan

Read the post again - he's not referring to Archie (specifically avoiding the main 5 in fact)

Original Sin

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 15, 2016, 02:41:01 AM
Quote from: daren on May 14, 2016, 09:50:51 PM
Yeah! An Archie avalanche of A-holes!



I love a father who has his priorities straight!

This one isn't a gag cover. How is Archie being an a-hole here?

Daren is referring to Coach Clayton, who seems to care more about the trophy than his son's safety.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: Original Sin on May 15, 2016, 06:56:02 AM
Daren is referring to Coach Clayton, who seems to care more about the trophy than his son's safety.

Well, obviously he's a school coach so he's got to be concerned about doing his job, and the school ski team. But in the context of the story, I don't think enough time had passed that they were really wondering whether Chuck had gotten hurt or was hopelessly lost somewhere. He was just late for where he was supposed to be, so they started to become concerned and went looking for him. At the time they're first starting to look, time is running out for getting him where he's supposed to be, but obviously if they'd spent more time searching for him and not finding him, they'd have started to become more concerned about him and less about the school winning some ski trophy. It's just that you don't get any sense of context from looking at the cover all by itself. I'd have to find the story again to check, but it's kind of thing that would have been noticeable in the story itself, I think.

DeCarlo Rules

May 15, 2016, 07:30:15 AM #6 Last Edit: May 15, 2016, 07:33:37 AM by DeCarlo Rules
Quote from: invisifan on May 15, 2016, 05:28:33 AM
Read the post again - he's not referring to Archie (specifically avoiding the main 5 in fact)



What about this one then? Mr. Lodge makes a joke about Archie's letters being junk mail (of course we know he doesn't like him), and he's an "a-hole"? It's just a joke! Betty laughed.

Same applies to Mr. Weatherbee using a picture of Archie painted on a punching bag as a surrogate for taking out his frustrations. He's an "a-hole" for that? It's just a freaking joke. I'm starting to think Daren is taking the world of Archie entirely too seriously.

daren

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 15, 2016, 07:24:51 AM
Quote from: Original Sin on May 15, 2016, 06:56:02 AM
Daren is referring to Coach Clayton, who seems to care more about the trophy than his son's safety.

Well, obviously he's a school coach so he's got to be concerned about doing his job, and the school ski team. But in the context of the story, I don't think enough time had passed that they were really wondering whether Chuck had gotten hurt or was hopelessly lost somewhere. He was just late for where he was supposed to be, so they started to become concerned and went looking for him. At the time they're first starting to look, time is running out for getting him where he's supposed to be, but obviously if they'd spent more time searching for him and not finding him, they'd have started to become more concerned about him and less about the school winning some ski trophy. It's just that you don't get any sense of context from looking at the cover all by itself. I'd have to find the story again to check, but it's kind of thing that would have been noticeable in the story itself, I think.




Actually it's a little known fact that upon hearing that comment Chuck became so embittered against his father that he renounced sports altogether to become a henpecked cartoonist.


Next one:






DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: daren on May 16, 2016, 03:46:12 AM
Actually it's a little known fact that upon hearing that comment Chuck became so embittered against his father that he renounced sports altogether to become a henpecked cartoonist.

"henpecked cartoonist" ... I like that concept (because of course there's some truth in it). It occurs to me that with some persistence and a little luck, Chuck Clayton could parlay that idea into a semi-autobiographical daily strip that might do well with a larger audience (if his gag-writing skills are up to it).

Back to the cover. Certainly taking the cover scene out of context of the story itself, and using the dramatic contrast of showing a (presumably hurt) Chuck in the foreground of the panel as Archie and his father pass by totally unaware makes Harry Clayton's comment seem much worse.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: daren on May 16, 2016, 03:46:12 AM
Next one:




It's been interesting to me noting some things about the daily newspaper strips in reading them. For instance, in panel two here we have Mr. Weatherbee's secretary, who appears in a LOT of the strips, but (at least up to 1963 where I've read) is NEVER addressed by name. But she is in every respect, by the way she's drawn, the woman who'll we'll later come to know as Miss (or Ms.) Phlips. Svenson appears in a lot of the daily strips, Weatherbee in almost a quarter of them. Miss Beazly appears almost as often as Weatherbee and Miss Grundy. There's even a reoccurring character named "Old Man Beazly" who I've seen in a half-dozen strips or so, but never together with Miss Beazly. No connection beyond the obvious same last name is ever mentioned.


There are other Bob Montana creations in the strips that I've never seen in the comic books, like Hooky Hogan, the school's habitual truant, who always acts in the strips like an incarcerated felon, scheming ways to "bust out of the joint". Another that just starts appearing in multiple strips in 1963 is Hunk, who is a bit like an even dumber Moose Mason. (In the strip where he first appears, Coach Kleats sends him to work out with weights and a medicine ball in the gym, hoping he'll lose some weight so he can be on the basketball team. After a while, Kleats checks on Hunk to see how he's doing, and asks him to now try putting the ball in the basket to see how he's shaping up. Hunk tries to shove the medicine ball through the basketball hoop.)

SAGG

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 16, 2016, 05:41:08 PM
Quote from: daren on May 16, 2016, 03:46:12 AM
Next one:




It's been interesting to me noting some things about the daily newspaper strips in reading them. For instance, in panel two here we have Mr. Weatherbee's secretary, who appears in a LOT of the strips, but (at least up to 1963 where I've read) is NEVER addressed by name. But she is in every respect, by the way she's drawn, the woman who'll we'll later come to know as Miss (or Ms.) Phlips. Svenson appears in a lot of the daily strips, Weatherbee in almost a quarter of them. Miss Beazly appears almost as often as Weatherbee and Miss Grundy. There's even a reoccurring character named "Old Man Beazly" who I've seen in a half-dozen strips or so, but never together with Miss Beazly. No connection beyond the obvious same last name is ever mentioned.


There are other Bob Montana creations in the strips that I've never seen in the comic books, like Hooky Hogan, the school's habitual truant, who always acts in the strips like an incarcerated felon, scheming ways to "bust out of the joint". Another that just starts appearing in multiple strips in 1963 is Hunk, who is a bit like an even dumber Moose Mason. (In the strip where he first appears, Coach Kleats sends him to work out with weights and a medicine ball in the gym, hoping he'll lose some weight so he can be on the basketball team. After a while, Kleats checks on Hunk to see how he's doing, and asks him to now try putting the ball in the basket to see how he's shaping up. Hunk tries to shove the medicine ball through the basketball hoop.)
Twelve Cent Archie indicated that Montana had created his own separate universe from the comic books. He was even nominated for a Reuben Award, but didn't win...

daren

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 16, 2016, 05:41:08 PM
Quote from: daren on May 16, 2016, 03:46:12 AM
Next one:




It's been interesting to me noting some things about the daily newspaper strips in reading them. For instance, in panel two here we have Mr. Weatherbee's secretary, who appears in a LOT of the strips, but (at least up to 1963 where I've read) is NEVER addressed by name. But she is in every respect, by the way she's drawn, the woman who'll we'll later come to know as Miss (or Ms.) Phlips. Svenson appears in a lot of the daily strips, Weatherbee in almost a quarter of them. Miss Beazly appears almost as often as Weatherbee and Miss Grundy. There's even a reoccurring character named "Old Man Beazly" who I've seen in a half-dozen strips or so, but never together with Miss Beazly. No connection beyond the obvious same last name is ever mentioned.


There are other Bob Montana creations in the strips that I've never seen in the comic books, like Hooky Hogan, the school's habitual truant, who always acts in the strips like an incarcerated felon, scheming ways to "bust out of the joint". Another that just starts appearing in multiple strips in 1963 is Hunk, who is a bit like an even dumber Moose Mason. (In the strip where he first appears, Coach Kleats sends him to work out with weights and a medicine ball in the gym, hoping he'll lose some weight so he can be on the basketball team. After a while, Kleats checks on Hunk to see how he's doing, and asks him to now try putting the ball in the basket to see how he's shaping up. Hunk tries to shove the medicine ball through the basketball hoop.)


I really want to read all those strips again, I've only seen some of them. I saw Hooky Hogan in one comic book from about 1950.


Quote from: SAGG on May 16, 2016, 10:36:46 PM
Twelve Cent Archie indicated that Montana had created his own separate universe from the comic books. He was even nominated for a Reuben Award, but didn't win...


Looking at some of the people who have won the award, he should have got it.  >:(


daren


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