Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 01, 2016, 02:05:39 AM
Well, there's no "ship" going on here -- and in order to be considered legal, marriages (except for the ones required by ancient Inca rituals for human sacrifice) have to be entered into by the two people of their own free will.

Sarcasm doesn't travel well across the internet, does it?

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 01, 2016, 02:24:20 AM

You honestly can't say who else she called, because it doesn't show that part. Maybe Veronica just invited Hot Dog over to dispose of the uneaten food, and Jughead invited himself along. Jughead and Hot Dog were the only ones brave and/or hungry enough to show up, anyway. Even Archie won't eat Veronica's cooking if there's any way for him to get out of it... but Jughead isn't known as the human garbage disposal of Riverdale for nothing. Nobody makes a big deal about it when he goes to Ethel's house to eat her cooking, but unlike Ethel, Veronica really doesn't seem too happy to have him there. "Just shut up and eat!"

Meanwhile, there is no evidence to indicate that she called anyone else. Occam's Razor, the hypothesis with the least assumptions should be selected. Jughead actually says Veronica invited him and Hot Dog. Also, Veronica's reputation as a bad cook wasn't firmly established yet, so the others would have no reason to avoid her cooking. I think it's obvious Veronica invited Jughead and Hot Dog because they can put away a lot food quickly, but this thread is 50% shipping, so of course we're just having fun with the stories.

Quote from: Thrillho on June 01, 2016, 07:27:37 PM
Meanwhile, there is no evidence to indicate that she called anyone else. Occam's Razor, the hypothesis with the least assumptions should be selected.

The evidence would be Veronica's sour mood. If she only invited Jughead and he showed up, she should be satisfied with that. The fact that she's unhappy about the situation seems to indicate she hoped someone else would show up to eat the big breakfast she made. Or if she didn't invite anyone else, she seems to feel like this solution to getting rid of her big breakfast isn't much of an improvement on shoving it all down the garbage disposal.

Quote from: SAGG on June 01, 2016, 05:23:11 PM

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This story is too funny! 

My favorite all-time "Jug puts Ronica in her place" story...

I love those silent stories. Still, this pantomime has a very 19th Century feel to it. You'd think these guys had never seen a bare shoulder on a woman before! 

Great story. It's amazing that pantomime can say so much without saying anything. I think DeCarlo did this, right? Harry Lucey also could draw pantomime, probably better than any other Archie artist. I guess someone "wrote" this too. I wonder if it was Frank Doyle?

Quote from: SAGG on June 02, 2016, 04:11:27 PM
Great story. It's amazing that pantomime can say so much without saying anything. I think DeCarlo did this, right? Harry Lucey also could draw pantomime, probably better than any other Archie artist. I guess someone "wrote" this too. I wonder if it was Frank Doyle?

According to comics.org,  it was written by Frank Doyle.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 02, 2016, 06:13:32 AM

Quote from: Thrillho on June 01, 2016, 07:27:37 PM
Meanwhile, there is no evidence to indicate that she called anyone else. Occam's Razor, the hypothesis with the least assumptions should be selected.

The evidence would be Veronica's sour mood. If she only invited Jughead and he showed up, she should be satisfied with that. The fact that she's unhappy about the situation seems to indicate she hoped someone else would show up to eat the big breakfast she made. Or if she didn't invite anyone else, she seems to feel like this solution to getting rid of her big breakfast isn't much of an improvement on shoving it all down the garbage disposal.

Her intended guests were her parents but they left instead of eating the breakfast Veronica cooked, that's in the story, hence her bad mood at the end. I agreed with you, she likely just invited Jughead and Hot Dog to get rid of it, but there is no indication she called any of her other friends, and as I said before this is also a shipping thread and we're just having fun, there's no need to read too much into every comment that's made here.

Quote from: Thrillho on June 02, 2016, 06:29:46 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 02, 2016, 06:13:32 AM

Quote from: Thrillho on June 01, 2016, 07:27:37 PM
Meanwhile, there is no evidence to indicate that she called anyone else. Occam's Razor, the hypothesis with the least assumptions should be selected.

The evidence would be Veronica's sour mood. If she only invited Jughead and he showed up, she should be satisfied with that. The fact that she's unhappy about the situation seems to indicate she hoped someone else would show up to eat the big breakfast she made. Or if she didn't invite anyone else, she seems to feel like this solution to getting rid of her big breakfast isn't much of an improvement on shoving it all down the garbage disposal.

Her intended guests were her parents but they left instead of eating the breakfast Veronica cooked, that's in the story, hence her bad mood at the end. I agreed with you, she likely just invited Jughead and Hot Dog to get rid of it, but there is no indication she called any of her other friends, and as I said before this is also a shipping thread and we're just having fun, there's no need to read too much into every comment that's made here.

Exactly!

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 02, 2016, 05:54:02 PM

Quote from: SAGG on June 02, 2016, 04:11:27 PM
Great story. It's amazing that pantomime can say so much without saying anything. I think DeCarlo did this, right? Harry Lucey also could draw pantomime, probably better than any other Archie artist. I guess someone "wrote" this too. I wonder if it was Frank Doyle?

According to comics.org,  it was written by Frank Doyle.

It seems like most of the silent stories I've seen were written by Doyle, although I've seen at least one by Gladir, so I know he wasn't the only one writing them.

Quote from: Thrillho on June 02, 2016, 06:29:46 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 02, 2016, 06:13:32 AM

Quote from: Thrillho on June 01, 2016, 07:27:37 PM
Meanwhile, there is no evidence to indicate that she called anyone else. Occam's Razor, the hypothesis with the least assumptions should be selected.

The evidence would be Veronica's sour mood. If she only invited Jughead and he showed up, she should be satisfied with that. The fact that she's unhappy about the situation seems to indicate she hoped someone else would show up to eat the big breakfast she made. Or if she didn't invite anyone else, she seems to feel like this solution to getting rid of her big breakfast isn't much of an improvement on shoving it all down the garbage disposal.

Her intended guests were her parents but they left instead of eating the breakfast Veronica cooked, that's in the story, hence her bad mood at the end. I agreed with you, she likely just invited Jughead and Hot Dog to get rid of it, but there is no indication she called any of her other friends, and as I said before this is also a shipping thread and we're just having fun, there's no need to read too much into every comment that's made here.

Just her father, really. Mrs. Lodge doesn't seem to be in it, unless she made her excuses on a previous page. It does seem to be a lot of pancakes, sausages, fruit, and ... whatever that orange lumpy stuff is supposed to be (scrambled eggs, oatmeal, or hash browns?) just for Mr. Lodge, though. The way he takes off with "But I have to run now! -- Boy, life is full of all kinds of crazy surprises!" and a big smile on his face (he seems relieved) as he's leaving makes me think he's just looking for an excuse to get out of eating Ronnie's cooking. Or maybe he's pleased to see she made the effort, and it's the thought that counts, so he really is kind of proud of her, regardless of whether her cooking's any good or not. Hard to say if the "crazy surprises" he's referring to is the reason he suddenly has to rush off, or the fact that Veronica did something for him without help from the household staff (although wouldn't that be Gaston's job, not Smithers'?) ... could be both, but now that I think about it, I'm more inclined to think the latter. I'm actually not sure what Mr. Lodge is talking about in that first panel about Smithers' day off, since she'd already obviously prepared the breakfast.

The fact that she would make that much food for just him also indicates she doesn't know anything about cooking. She should know he couldn't eat all that by himself, even if it didn't turn out to be inedible. Of course it's no problem for Jughead, and even enough to share it with Hot Dog. The irony is that if Hiram had stayed and eaten her breakfast, she would have wound up with most of what she made still left over and had to throw it out anyway.

Speaking of Ronnie/Juggie shipping, when you get a really GOOD one, why is it posted over in the Reggie Mantle thread? 

That may be the most genuinely heroic thing I've ever seen Jughead do (because there's no indication he's aware of Reggie's prank) outside of a Captain Hero story. And more than that, Ronnie's affectionate gratitude here is 100% gen-u-wine, no "reader imagination" needed. She doesn't just kiss him, she kisses him at least three times. But they both thought it was a REAL shark, so he really is a hero, and deserves it, even if he's flinching. For Jughead though, that's a pretty weak example of flinching. Even though it's just the one panel, that one should be in the V/J shipping hall of fame. Betty just calmly stands there and calls him a hero. Veronica was obviously just looking for an excuse.

I love how Archie interprets these events ... he thinks he needs to invest in a spear gun (but only so it will "pay off" in kisses from Veronica) ... he doesn't think about just doing something selfless because it's the right thing to do.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 03, 2016, 12:55:47 AM

Quote from: Thrillho on June 02, 2016, 06:29:46 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 02, 2016, 06:13:32 AM

Quote from: Thrillho on June 01, 2016, 07:27:37 PM
Meanwhile, there is no evidence to indicate that she called anyone else. Occam's Razor, the hypothesis with the least assumptions should be selected.

The evidence would be Veronica's sour mood. If she only invited Jughead and he showed up, she should be satisfied with that. The fact that she's unhappy about the situation seems to indicate she hoped someone else would show up to eat the big breakfast she made. Or if she didn't invite anyone else, she seems to feel like this solution to getting rid of her big breakfast isn't much of an improvement on shoving it all down the garbage disposal.

Her intended guests were her parents but they left instead of eating the breakfast Veronica cooked, that's in the story, hence her bad mood at the end. I agreed with you, she likely just invited Jughead and Hot Dog to get rid of it, but there is no indication she called any of her other friends, and as I said before this is also a shipping thread and we're just having fun, there's no need to read too much into every comment that's made here.

Just her father, really. Mrs. Lodge doesn't seem to be in it, unless she made her excuses on a previous page. It does seem to be a lot of pancakes, sausages, fruit, and ... whatever that orange lumpy stuff is supposed to be (scrambled eggs, oatmeal, or hash browns?) just for Mr. Lodge, though. The way he takes off with "But I have to run now! -- Boy, life is full of all kinds of crazy surprises!" and a big smile on his face (he seems relieved) as he's leaving makes me think he's just looking for an excuse to get out of eating Ronnie's cooking. Or maybe he's pleased to see she made the effort, and it's the thought that counts, so he really is kind of proud of her, regardless of whether her cooking's any good or not. Hard to say if the "crazy surprises" he's referring to is the reason he suddenly has to rush off, or the fact that Veronica did something for him without help from the household staff (although wouldn't that be Gaston's job, not Smithers'?) ... could be both, but now that I think about it, I'm more inclined to think the latter. I'm actually not sure what Mr. Lodge is talking about in that first panel about Smithers' day off, since she'd already obviously prepared the breakfast.

The fact that she would make that much food for just him also indicates she doesn't know anything about cooking. She should know he couldn't eat all that by himself, even if it didn't turn out to be inedible. Of course it's no problem for Jughead, and even enough to share it with Hot Dog. The irony is that if Hiram had stayed and eaten her breakfast, she would have wound up with most of what she made still left over and had to throw it out anyway.

I have read the whole story, I can't get any scans right now because the CD-Rom it's on is in a storage locker, but yes the story is all about Veronica wanting genuine family time so she decides to surprise her parents by cooking them breakfast. She approaches her mother first who has to run off and do something and then Mr. Lodge has to leave too.

And it doesn't really look like she made that much, enough for three people but not too much that she'd have to throw most of it away.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 03, 2016, 12:55:47 AM
Speaking of Ronnie/Juggie shipping, when you get a really GOOD one, why is it posted over in the Reggie Mantle thread? 

That may be the most genuinely heroic thing I've ever seen Jughead do (because there's no indication he's aware of Reggie's prank) outside of a Captain Hero story. And more than that, Ronnie's affectionate gratitude here is 100% gen-u-wine, no "reader imagination" needed. She doesn't just kiss him, she kisses him at least three times. But they both thought it was a REAL shark, so he really is a hero, and deserves it, even if he's flinching. For Jughead though, that's a pretty weak example of flinching. Even though it's just the one panel, that one should be in the V/J shipping hall of fame. Betty just calmly stands there and calls him a hero. Veronica was obviously just looking for an excuse.

I thought it fit the Reggie thread better. There are also better Jughead/Veronica stories, I've just been restraining myself from posting them as well as trying to fit the "feud" theme.

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 03, 2016, 11:51:50 PM

Yes, and this was the proposal 



I didn't save the last page, but she actually becomes really in to the idea to the degree that Jughead loses his appetite. 

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 03, 2016, 11:51:50 PM

Is that from that same story where they had to pretend to be married by being partnered up (Archie/Betty, Veronica/Jughead) for a class project in managing a family budget?

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 01, 2016, 02:05:39 AM

The only relationship here is that they're mutual co-prisoners who can't stand each other. But it does look as though Mr. Lodge and Betty are next in line to see the Incan Justice of the Peace.

Yuck.

Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 12:49:58 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 01, 2016, 02:05:39 AM

The only relationship here is that they're mutual co-prisoners who can't stand each other. But it does look as though Mr. Lodge and Betty are next in line to see the Incan Justice of the Peace.

Yuck.

Relax. I meant I don't attach much significance to some ritual performed on unwilling prisoners about to become human sacrifices. Human sacrifice = Yuck -- who cares about some stupid ritual involving Veronica/Jughead or Betty/Mr. Lodge. Priorities.