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Title: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 03:01:23 PM
The story I want to see is Souphead Jones versus Leroy Lodge. Or maybe Sabrina's cousin Esmerelda versus Leroy.

Well, that and a story where Archie's identical cousin meets Jughead's identical cousin.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: BettyReggie on April 11, 2016, 04:32:17 PM
I have seen Soup Head in story where he had to help his teacher cross the street, that was in one of Jughead issues. It was to odd to see Archie say he has a sister which he did tell Veronica in one of early stories. Archie doesn't have sister. I have never saw any grandpas or grandmas of any of the characters. Actually once Jughead's Grandma did visit him. Jughead was so excited he ran in the room & kissed Trula by accident. He thought it was his grandmother.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 04:50:43 PM
Quote from: BettyReggie on April 11, 2016, 04:32:17 PM
I have seen Soup Head in story where he had to help his teacher cross the street, that was in one of Jughead issues. It was to odd to see Archie say he has a sister which he did tell Veronica in one of early stories. Archie doesn't have sister. I have never saw any grandpas or grandmas of any of the characters. Actually once Jughead's Grandma did visit him. Jughead was so excited he ran in the room & kissed Trula by accident. He thought it was his grandmother.


BettyReggie, meet Artie Andrews, Archie's grandfather.
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe251%2Farchiesolicitations%2Fad239_1.jpg&hash=84fbb0fee45d20ef1e3b06cdcebec1232abfac09)

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Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Great Gazoo on April 11, 2016, 05:06:44 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 04:50:43 PM
Quote from: BettyReggie on April 11, 2016, 04:32:17 PM
I have seen Soup Head in story where he had to help his teacher cross the street, that was in one of Jughead issues. It was to odd to see Archie say he has a sister which he did tell Veronica in one of early stories. Archie doesn't have sister. I have never saw any grandpas or grandmas of any of the characters. Actually once Jughead's Grandma did visit him. Jughead was so excited he ran in the room & kissed Trula by accident. He thought it was his grandmother.


BettyReggie, meet Artie Andrews, Archie's grandfather.
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe251%2Farchiesolicitations%2Fad239_1.jpg&hash=84fbb0fee45d20ef1e3b06cdcebec1232abfac09)

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Archie definitely gets his looks from his grandpa.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 05:45:35 PM
Some of the known (reappearing) relatives (excluding the well-known parents):


ARCHIE
cousins:
Andy Andrews (US government agent)
Alistair Andrews (from Great Britain, Alistair is well-educated, well-to-do, and cultured... and a dead ringer for Archie)


REGGIE
cousins:
Regina
Percy (from the Filmation animated series)


JUGHEAD
Uncle Herman Jones (bald-headed whacky inventor)
Uncle Herman Wilkin (white-haired, mustached former minor league baseball player ...maybe)
Uncle Herman Jones who's been redrawn to look like Bingo's Uncle Herman (it does get confusing...)
cousins:
Souphead Jones
Bingo Wilkin
Nathan Jones (Jughead's identical twin cousin who is a suave ladies' man)


(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net%2Fn_iv%2F600%2F652033.jpg&hash=527572c5610d7bcbd03013d1ca36fd376b739420)


VERONICA
Aunt Zoey (professional truck driver)
cousins:
Leroy Lodge
Marcy McDermott
Harper Lodge
Susan (bratty blonde troublemaker who looks innocent and cute)


SABRINA
cousins:
Ambrose
Esmeralda
(she had a whole gaggle of cousins in the Filmation animated cartoon, none of whom - with the exception of Ambrose - were ever seen in the comics: The Groovie Goolies - who lived at Horrible Hall, along with Aunt Hagatha)
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Great Gazoo on April 11, 2016, 05:55:17 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 05:45:35 PM
Some of the known (reappearing) relatives (excluding the well-known parents):


ARCHIE
cousins:
Andy Andrews (US government agent)
Alistair Andrews (from Great Britain, Alistair is well-educated, well-to-do, and cultured... and a dead ringer for Archie)


REGGIE
cousins:
Regina
Percy (from the Filmation animated series)


JUGHEAD
Uncle Herman Jones (bald-headed whacky inventor)
Uncle Herman Wilkin (white-haired, mustached former minor league baseball player ...maybe)
Uncle Herman Jones who's been redrawn to look like Bingo's Uncle Herman (it does get confusing...)
cousins:
Souphead Jones
Bingo Wilkin
Nathan Jones (Jughead's identical twin cousin who is a suave ladies' man)


(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net%2Fn_iv%2F600%2F652033.jpg&hash=527572c5610d7bcbd03013d1ca36fd376b739420)


VERONICA
Aunt Zoey (professional truck driver)
cousins:
Leroy Lodge
Marcy McDermott
Harper Lodge
Susan (bratty blonde troublemaker who looks innocent and cute)


SABRINA
cousins:
Ambrose
Esmeralda
(she had a whole gaggle of cousins in the Filmation animated cartoon, none of whom - with the exception of Ambrose - were ever seen in the comics: The Groovie Goolies - who lived at Horrible Hall, along with Aunt Hagatha)
Is this the same Regina that Reggie was kissing in the recent Jughead issue?(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F36.media.tumblr.com%2F69e7d27bbabc7accc5945393c82e63c0%2Ftumblr_o5du68ChZy1r1slj9o1_1280.png&hash=cab3271829dcc6d03b0e1106890030291f714ecc)
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 11, 2016, 05:55:17 PM
Is this the same Regina that Reggie was kissing in the recent Jughead issue?


Of course not. That's a completely different timeline of the Archie multiverse where Reggie Mantle is of Hispanic, rather than Caucasian, descent. Genetically then, they can't even be parallel counterparts of the same individual. The history of Reggie Mantle's ancestry is totally different in the two timelines.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Great Gazoo on April 11, 2016, 06:11:18 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 11, 2016, 05:55:17 PM
Is this the same Regina that Reggie was kissing in the recent Jughead issue?


Of course not. That's a completely different timeline of the Archie multiverse where Reggie Mantle is of Hispanic, rather than Caucasian, descent. Genetically then, they can't even be parallel counterparts of the same individual. The history of Reggie Mantle's ancestry is totally different in the two timelines.
Sometimes the amount of Archieverse that is out there can get kind of confusing especially when they use the same names between them. :)
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: daren on April 11, 2016, 06:32:37 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 11, 2016, 05:55:17 PM
Is this the same Regina that Reggie was kissing in the recent Jughead issue?


Of course not. That's a completely different timeline of the Archie multiverse where Reggie Mantle is of Hispanic, rather than Caucasian, descent.


What?
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Great Gazoo on April 11, 2016, 06:42:25 PM
Quote from: daren on April 11, 2016, 06:32:37 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 11, 2016, 05:55:17 PM
Is this the same Regina that Reggie was kissing in the recent Jughead issue?


Of course not. That's a completely different timeline of the Archie multiverse where Reggie Mantle is of Hispanic, rather than Caucasian, descent.


What?
I was rather confused by this statement as well. I thought I missed one of the multiverse that Reggie was Hispanic that I have no clue that ever happened. I gave DeCarlo Rules the benefit of the doubt as maybe he read something that I had missed.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: daren on April 11, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
You didn't miss anything.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: daren on April 11, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
You didn't miss anything.


Whenever anyone asks me how is the Archie reboot, that's exactly what I tell them.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Great Gazoo on April 11, 2016, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: daren on April 11, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
You didn't miss anything.


Whenever anyone asks me how is the Archie reboot, that's exactly what I tell them.
I still don't completely understand where you were trying to go with that because I really wasn't asking you anything about the reboot really. It just so happened the the character you mentioned in your original post seemed to reappear in that issue and I found it funny that Reggie could possibly be kissing his own cousin. That is all that I was meaning in my question. Nothing about the reboot at all.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 08:22:22 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 11, 2016, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: daren on April 11, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
You didn't miss anything.


Whenever anyone asks me how is the Archie reboot, that's exactly what I tell them.
I still don't completely understand where you were trying to go with that because I really wasn't asking you anything about the reboot really. It just so happened the the character you mentioned in your original post seemed to reappear in that issue and I found it funny that Reggie could possibly be kissing his own cousin. That is all that I was meaning in my question. Nothing about the reboot at all.


They're obviously gender-swapped clones, probably created by Stanger. See earlier issues of HOWARD THE DUCK... Zdarksi loves that plot device.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Great Gazoo on April 11, 2016, 08:24:20 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 08:22:22 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 11, 2016, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: daren on April 11, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
You didn't miss anything.


Whenever anyone asks me how is the Archie reboot, that's exactly what I tell them.
I still don't completely understand where you were trying to go with that because I really wasn't asking you anything about the reboot really. It just so happened the the character you mentioned in your original post seemed to reappear in that issue and I found it funny that Reggie could possibly be kissing his own cousin. That is all that I was meaning in my question. Nothing about the reboot at all.


They're obviously gender-swapped clones, probably created by Stanger. See earlier issues of HOWARD THE DUCK... Zdarksi loves that plot device.
I never read Howard The Duck. I will have to look into that someday.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: daren on April 11, 2016, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: daren on April 11, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
You didn't miss anything.


Whenever anyone asks me how is the Archie reboot, that's exactly what I tell them.




I like classic Archie much more I'll say that.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Great Gazoo on April 11, 2016, 09:27:19 PM
Quote from: daren on April 11, 2016, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 11, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: daren on April 11, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
You didn't miss anything.


Whenever anyone asks me how is the Archie reboot, that's exactly what I tell them.




I like classic Archie much more I'll say that.
I will 2nd that.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: BettyReggie on April 11, 2016, 10:11:35 PM
Reggie has a brother named Oliver who lives in Alaska. The only time I ever saw him was in a Life With Archie issue. He was really built & handsome. Reggie was calling him because their father had a heart attack & he was in the hospital. I wonder if Reggie's brother would be on RiverDale?
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Great Gazoo on April 11, 2016, 10:27:09 PM
Quote from: BettyReggie on April 11, 2016, 10:11:35 PM
Reggie has a brother named Oliver who lives in Alaska. The only time I ever saw him was in a Life With Archie issue. He was really built & handsome. Reggie was calling him because their father had a heart attack & he was in the hospital. I wonder if Reggie's brother would be on RiverDale?
He was only in that one issue? I doubt he'd be in the Riverdale show but funnier things have already occurred like Miss Grundy being a hot 20 something teacher. You never know what is going to happen.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: BettyReggie on April 12, 2016, 06:41:55 AM
I remember Veronica's mom had a sister who was a truck driver. Veronica was wasn't crazy about her. Then there's Marcy & Harper & Leroy who her cousins. I wonder are Leroy & Marcy brother & sister?
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 02:38:55 PM
Quote from: BettyReggie on April 12, 2016, 06:41:55 AM
I wonder are Leroy & Marcy brother & sister?

No, they're cousins. Leroy Lodge is from Hiram's side of the family; Marcy McDermott is from Hermione's side of the family. There was a story where Marcy's mom got remarried to man named Wells, but I don't know if Marcy or her mom's last name changed (Marcy would have to be legally adopted by her stepfather).
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: 60sBettyandReggie on April 12, 2016, 11:20:29 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 11, 2016, 05:55:17 PM
Is this the same Regina that Reggie was kissing in the recent Jughead issue?(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F36.media.tumblr.com%2F69e7d27bbabc7accc5945393c82e63c0%2Ftumblr_o5du68ChZy1r1slj9o1_1280.png&hash=cab3271829dcc6d03b0e1106890030291f714ecc)



o_0 Reggie, please. WTF?!
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: BettyReggie on April 13, 2016, 12:03:38 AM
I just a story where Veronica has a Aunt named Lily. Lily gave Veronica a necklace that shaped like red lips & even time she kissed people she could see who was their first kiss.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: invisifan on April 13, 2016, 01:12:53 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 02:38:55 PM
Quote from: BettyReggie on April 12, 2016, 06:41:55 AM
I wonder are Leroy & Marcy brother & sister?

No, they're cousins. Leroy Lodge is from Hiram's side of the family; Marcy McDermott is from Hermione's side of the family. There was a story where Marcy's mom got remarried to man named Wells, but I don't know if Marcy or her mom's last name changed (Marcy would have to be legally adopted by her stepfather).
Veronica has at least 3 well-established aunts:Leroy would have to be on Mr.Lodge's side of the family and could be a second cousin or remove since that's often dropped in day-to-day speech ... depending on details that ACP would not want to discuss he could be Marcy's half brother (though that's unlikely) ...
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: 60sBettyandReggie on April 13, 2016, 01:20:48 PM
Quote from: invisifan on April 13, 2016, 01:12:53 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 02:38:55 PM
Quote from: BettyReggie on April 12, 2016, 06:41:55 AM
I wonder are Leroy & Marcy brother & sister?

No, they're cousins. Leroy Lodge is from Hiram's side of the family; Marcy McDermott is from Hermione's side of the family. There was a story where Marcy's mom got remarried to man named Wells, but I don't know if Marcy or her mom's last name changed (Marcy would have to be legally adopted by her stepfather).
Veronica has at least 3 well-established aunts:

       
  • Elsie McDermott — Marcy's mom note though that we don't know the exact relationship "McDermott" could be a married name or she could have taken her maiden name back (technically we don't know if she's blood herself or if Marcy's father was a brother of one of Veronica's parents or what happened to him or even they were ever married, just that Elsie was a single Mom)
  • Lily —  definitely stated as Hermoine's sister, a new-agey sort with access to "mystic" items — has made several appearances
  • Gladys — the truck driving aunt ... several appearances, no indication of exact relationship (side of family, blood/marriage, etc.)
Leroy would have to be on Mr.Lodge's side of the family and could be a second cousin or remove since that's often dropped in day-to-day speech ... depending on details that ACP would not want to discuss he could be Marcy's half brother (though that's unlikely) ...


There's a story I have in BVDD #82 called Ride Like the Wind. Veronica is visiting her cousin Tate and his wife Julie who live on a farm in Kansas. I don't know if that cousin ever appeared in other stories.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: invisifan on April 13, 2016, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on April 13, 2016, 01:20:48 PM
There's a story I have in BVDD #82 called Ride Like the Wind. Veronica is visiting her cousin Tate and his wife Julie who live on a farm in Kansas. I don't know if that cousin ever appeared in other stories.
Thanks, I'll try to get that; of course aside from being from Mr. Lodge's side of the family we also don't know where or how harper fits in either ...

If any one else knows any appearance for lesser known relative of character — mention them here and I'll compile a list ...
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Oldiesmann on April 13, 2016, 05:03:53 PM
There's a story somewhere where Archie and his parents are going to an Andrews family reunion. Lots of relatives show up in that story and are never seen/heard from again.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Mr.Lodge on April 13, 2016, 07:53:41 PM
There's a similar story with Betty's family.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: BettyReggie on April 13, 2016, 09:46:21 PM
Jughead accidentally sent out a massive email to everyone with the last name Jones & they all came to family bbq. There was so many people there.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Great Gazoo on April 13, 2016, 11:35:08 PM
Quote from: BettyReggie on April 13, 2016, 09:46:21 PM
Jughead accidentally sent out a massive email to everyone with the last name Jones & they all came to family bbq. There was so many people there.
There are a lot of people with the last name Jones out there. ;D
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on April 15, 2016, 12:51:17 AM
Quote from: invisifan on April 13, 2016, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on April 13, 2016, 01:20:48 PM
There's a story I have in BVDD #82 called Ride Like the Wind. Veronica is visiting her cousin Tate and his wife Julie who live on a farm in Kansas. I don't know if that cousin ever appeared in other stories.
Thanks, I'll try to get that; of course aside from being from Mr. Lodge's side of the family we also don't know where or how harper fits in either ...

If any one else knows any appearance for lesser known relative of character — mention them here and I'll compile a list ...

Eventually you'd wind up with a list of dozens of aunts, uncles, and cousins - meaning that all the parents came from huge families. For example, in JUGHEAD AND ARCHIE COMICS DIGEST #2 which I just read, there's a story ("Post Haste") where Archie gets a notice of a package in the mail from Veronica's Uncle Cedric, and is very excited to get to the post office to pick it up and find out what's in it. Uncle Cedric isn't in the actual story, and neither is Veronica. In this same digest, there's also a story ("You Ought NOT To Be In Pictures") where Jughead decides to enter Jellybean in the 'Li'l Miss Riverdale Cutie Pie' contest. There's a single panel where he mentions "Cousin Horace at Kresskell's Dept. Store told me about it." There's two relatives right there, and they never even appeared in the stories. That same digest has a story, "Buzzin' Cousin", that features Veronica's cousin Alice. There's one random digest issue with 3 different relatives!

In the more extended family area, you've got "Grandpa" Jones, who isn't actually Jughead's grandfather, but his elderly clone. (You can't get more closely related than that!) After he retired from the Time Police, Jughead had this clone created with all of his memories, and the clone was put into hibernation to be woken up in the case of any Time Police emergencies (he winds up traveling back to Civil War times to rescue the original Jughead, and becomes the Colonel Pickens whose statue now sits in Riverdale's Pickens Park). Also seen in TIME POLICE was Merlin Jones, another relative of Jughead's, this one his elderly descendant (and founder of the Time Police) who decides to spend his retirement in medieval Camelot, thus inspiring the stories of Merlin the magician.

ARCHIE GIANT SERIES #602 also has a 2-page feature on "Jughead's Family Tree". (Possibly a feature that had other installments? Who knows?) It spotlights four relatives of Jughead's: Bixx "Spit-Valve" Jones, big band songwriter and trumpet player; Ipswitch Jones, space explorer and all around nice guy; Biff "Spillman" Jones (also known as "Wrong Way" Jones), a naval captain of the early decades of the 20th Century; and Lujak Jones, a popular club boxer of the 1930s who became a celebrity and whose later career had his picture plastered on billboards and in magazines, and whose gravel voice graced many adventure radio programs - after being involved in a scandal, he became a gym teacher and taught at Riverdale High until 1958.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on April 15, 2016, 06:21:59 AM
Another Jughead relative.

(https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/746597.jpg)
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: steveinthecity on September 24, 2016, 04:03:39 AM
I can think of at least two appearances of Grandma Cooper.  In one I read not long ago Grandma Cooper lives in Riverdale and Archie and Jug tag along with Betty as she is delivering a basket of food to her grandmother.  For whatever reason Grandma Cooper leaves the house and Jughead steals the food basket.  I'll have to take a look for where that story appeared.

EDIT: Ok, I have part of the story incorrect.  The story is "Changing Times" from Jughead #187(v. 1).  After Reggie and Jug learn Betty is taking a basket of treats to her Grandmother, Reggie runs ahead to get there before either Betty or Jug arrive.  Reggie tells Grandma Cooper "there's a big sale at Crenshaw's Department Store" so Granny heads to the sale leaving Reggie in the house.  He considers wearing one of Grandma's outfits in order to fool Betty when she arrives, but ultimately just decides to wait.  Betty then arrives with the basket and engages in some apparent horseplay with Reggie until Jughead shows up and absconds with the basket.  There's a few Little Red Riding Hood references and jokes made throughout the story.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: E.Quiet on September 24, 2016, 06:09:24 AM
I remember a story where Archie had to stay home because his grandparents were visiting to show videos of their holidays.  He thought it would be boring but by the end of the story he was planning to join his grandparents on their next holiday as their cameraman.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: BettyReggie on September 24, 2016, 08:22:49 AM
Veronica has a Aunt that appear in a issue or two. She drove a big truck . And what Marcy Veronica's nerdy cousin was a geek. She was wanted Veronica to really like but Veronica just thought she was a weird. Reggie's Brother Oliver was only in one issue. He was called because his father was in the hospital because of Heart Attack, Reggie called him.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on September 24, 2016, 11:38:00 AM
Quote from: steveinthecity on September 24, 2016, 04:03:39 AM
I can think of at least two appearances of Grandma Cooper.  In one I read not long ago Grandma Cooper lives in Riverdale and Archie and Jug tag along with Betty as she is delivering a basket of food to her grandmother.  For whatever reason Grandma Cooper leaves the house and Jughead steals the food basket.  I'll have to take a look for where that story appeared.

Wasn't there a story where Betty's grandmother has a farm, and the gang goes there to visit? (But of course, she has more than one, so that doesn't conflict with your Grandma Cooper.) Or was that Jughead's Granny? Or maybe that was something from the Filmation cartoon Archie, it's just a vague recollection.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: steveinthecity on September 24, 2016, 07:56:28 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 24, 2016, 11:38:00 AM
Quote from: steveinthecity on September 24, 2016, 04:03:39 AM
I can think of at least two appearances of Grandma Cooper.  In one I read not long ago Grandma Cooper lives in Riverdale and Archie and Jug tag along with Betty as she is delivering a basket of food to her grandmother.  For whatever reason Grandma Cooper leaves the house and Jughead steals the food basket.  I'll have to take a look for where that story appeared.

Wasn't there a story where Betty's grandmother has a farm, and the gang goes there to visit? (But of course, she has more than one, so that doesn't conflict with your Grandma Cooper.) Or was that Jughead's Granny? Or maybe that was something from the Filmation cartoon Archie, it's just a vague recollection.
The farm story rings a bell.  Was it a ranch-type farm where the gang rode horses?

Also, for anyone keeping score at home, please recall that Archie's Grandfather appeared in the very first Archie story in Pep #22. I hadn't seen that mentioned.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on September 25, 2016, 12:22:09 AM
From the new lead story in the latest ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST (#272), entitled "Giving Up the Ghost", Veronica's great uncle Jacob Lodge is mentioned, and a wing of the Lodge mansion had been closed off because Jacob is said to have been the victim of a grisly murder that was never solved. In the story, Veronica has re-opened the disused wing of the mansion to host a Halloween haunted house for underprivileged kids, and a party for her friends.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: SAGG on September 25, 2016, 01:34:58 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 25, 2016, 12:22:09 AM
From the new lead story in the latest ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST (#272), entitled "Giving Up the Ghost", Veronica's great uncle Jacob Lodge is mentioned, and a wing of the Lodge mansion had been closed off because Jacob is said to have been the victim of a grisly murder that was never solved. In the story, Veronica has re-opened the disused wing of the mansion to host a Halloween haunted house for underprivileged kids, and a party for her friends.

Yeah that was a pretty good story, I thought. Are the Kennedy brothers still doing new stories in the digests, or is it just Parent now (or anybody else)?
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: SAGG on September 25, 2016, 01:38:07 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 15, 2016, 06:21:59 AM
Another Jughead relative.

(https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/746597.jpg)
Too bad the TV remote wasn't invented yet...  :D
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on September 25, 2016, 05:36:51 AM
Quote from: SAGG on September 25, 2016, 01:34:58 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 25, 2016, 12:22:09 AM
From the new lead story in the latest ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST (#272), entitled "Giving Up the Ghost", Veronica's great uncle Jacob Lodge is mentioned, and a wing of the Lodge mansion had been closed off because Jacob is said to have been the victim of a grisly murder that was never solved. In the story, Veronica has re-opened the disused wing of the mansion to host a Halloween haunted house for underprivileged kids, and a party for her friends.

Yeah that was a pretty good story, I thought. Are the Kennedy brothers still doing new stories in the digests, or is it just Parent now (or anybody else)?

I always enjoy the visual bits of business that the Kennedy brothers stick in their stories, especially ones like this where it's some excuse to get a big cast of regulars together.  You can always count on scenes where there's a whole pack of characters all running away (sort of a visual homage to both the Scooby-Doo and Josie cartoon chase scenes), and panels where characters go tumbling through space in slapstick physical action. They usually stick some small visual gags into the backgrounds too, even though it has nothing to do with the plot or the script.

Like in this story, Reggie is wearing a Zorro costume (specifically colored by Digikore to obscure any too-similar appearance, by using orange, red, and navy blue), Archie is costumed as Pureheart the Powerful, Veronica as Cleopatra, Dilton dressed as the Hunchback of Notre Dame, Kevin in an Air Force officer,'s uniform,  Moose as a caveman, Midge as a cute pixie or fairy wearing a little pink dress, with pointy ears and insect wings, Jughead as some kind of Renaissance-era portly fellow (in various hues of green) -- perhaps Henry VIII, or was it Henry VI? In the opening splash panel, Ms. Grundy shows up in a witch's costume, and except for her white hair, she looks almost exactly like the classic version of Sabrina's Aunt Hilda! They always did have similar facial features, so that made me chuckle. All of the ACP artists seem to enjoy drawing Chunk (one of the New Kids), as he frequently shows up in crowd scenes in the background, and he's in half-a-dozen panels in this story, but doesn't seem to be wearing any sort of costume. I couldn't figure out what Betty and Cheryl (at least, I think it was supposed to be Cheryl, as she was the only one there with cherry-red hair) were supposed to be costumed as.

I think these are all inventory stories that are being used up.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: irishmoxie on September 25, 2016, 09:57:30 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 25, 2016, 05:36:51 AM
Quote from: SAGG on September 25, 2016, 01:34:58 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 25, 2016, 12:22:09 AM
From the new lead story in the latest ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST (#272), entitled "Giving Up the Ghost", Veronica's great uncle Jacob Lodge is mentioned, and a wing of the Lodge mansion had been closed off because Jacob is said to have been the victim of a grisly murder that was never solved. In the story, Veronica has re-opened the disused wing of the mansion to host a Halloween haunted house for underprivileged kids, and a party for her friends.

Yeah that was a pretty good story, I thought. Are the Kennedy brothers still doing new stories in the digests, or is it just Parent now (or anybody else)?

I always enjoy the visual bits of business that the Kennedy brothers stick in their stories, especially ones like this where it's some excuse to get a big cast of regulars together.  You can always count on scenes where there's a whole pack of characters all running away (sort of a visual homage to both the Scooby-Doo and Josie cartoon chase scenes), and panels where characters go tumbling through space in slapstick physical action. They usually stick some small visual gags into the backgrounds too, even though it has nothing to do with the plot or the script.

Like in this story, Reggie is wearing a Zorro costume (specifically colored by Digikore to obscure any too-similar appearance, by using orange, red, and navy blue), Archie is costumed as Pureheart the Powerful, Veronica as Cleopatra, Dilton dressed as the Hunchback of Notre Dame, Kevin in an Air Force officer,'s uniform,  Moose as a caveman, Midge as a cute pixie or fairy wearing a little pink dress, with pointy ears and insect wings, Jughead as some kind of Renaissance-era portly fellow (in various hues of green) -- perhaps Henry VIII, or was it Henry VI? In the opening splash panel, Ms. Grundy shows up in a witch's costume, and except for her white hair, she looks almost exactly like the classic version of Sabrina's Aunt Hilda! They always did have similar facial features, so that made me chuckle. All of the ACP artists seem to enjoy drawing Chunk (one of the New Kids), as he frequently shows up in crowd scenes in the background, and he's in half-a-dozen panels in this story, but doesn't seem to be wearing any sort of costume. I couldn't figure out what Betty and Cheryl (at least, I think it was supposed to be Cheryl, as she was the only one there with cherry-red hair) were supposed to be costumed as.

I think these are all inventory stories that are being used up.

I think Betty is supposed to be a zombie and Cheryl a schoolgirl.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Captain Jetpack on September 25, 2016, 10:27:47 AM
In the 60s-70s, in Animation, Sabrina had a near-identical cousin, with b;lack hair.
Frantic, reckless personality, name escapes me.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on September 25, 2016, 11:49:45 AM
Quote from: irishmoxie on September 25, 2016, 09:57:30 AM
I think Betty is supposed to be a zombie and Cheryl a schoolgirl.

"Zombie" crossed my mind with Betty, but if that's what it's supposed to be it's a pretty odd zombie look. Since when do zombies have stitched-up scars on their faces and legs? Who stitches up a zombie? Other zombies? Certainly not a human... they're too busy running away. None of the other usual signifyers there like pale, blanched skin or dark circles under her eyes, blank, dead-eyed expression, etc. To be honest, if I had to come up with some phrase to describe Betty's look in this story, it would be more like "Frankenstein's teenage hillbilly daughter". I'm just going to give her a pass and say she was so busy helping everyone out by doing them all different favors that week that she didn't have the time to put any real effort into it, and just tossed together some random "halloween look" with whatever was on hand an hour or two before the party.

Okay, so Cheryl's a schoolgirl. What I mean is... she really, actually IS a schoolgirl, so other than just changing up her usual fashion and hairstyles, it hardly qualifies as a real costume. I mean, that's what made me wonder if it was really Cheryl or just some new redhead chickie that Reggie brought to the party, who just happens to dress that way anyway. Reggie's got his arm around her shoulder in one panel in a way I've never seen Reggie & Cheryl cozy up to each other before.* -- Or maybe the colorists at Digikore just chose red for her hair color, arbitrarily.

*[Except for that one story where Cheryl and Reggie pretended to date each other as part of a scam to separate Archie from Veronica, and have them each for themselves, respectively.]
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on September 25, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Jetpack on September 25, 2016, 10:27:47 AM
In the 60s-70s, in Animation, Sabrina had a near-identical cousin, with b;lack hair.
Frantic, reckless personality, name escapes me.

Oh yeah. What a shameless ripoff of BEWITCHED that was. Maybe because Sabrina's appearance in ARCHIE'S MADHOUSE predated that show, ACP felt like it was fair game for them to copy Samantha's "identical-except-for-being-a-brunette" wildchild/partygirl cousin Serena (Serena/Sabrina... OW, that must have hurt).

I guess it's no big whoop, since by this time BEWITCHED was already copied once on that same gimmick, when I DREAM OF JEANNIE introduced Jeannie's evil twin (but brunette) sister, Jinni.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: Captain Jetpack on September 26, 2016, 07:40:31 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 25, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Jetpack on September 25, 2016, 10:27:47 AM
In the 60s-70s, in Animation, Sabrina had a near-identical cousin, with b;lack hair.
Frantic, reckless personality, name escapes me.

Oh yeah. What a shameless ripoff of BEWITCHED that was. Maybe because Sabrina's appearance in ARCHIE'S MADHOUSE predated that show, ACP felt like it was fair game for them to copy Samantha's "identical-except-for-being-a-brunette" wildchild/partygirl cousin Serena (Serena/Sabrina... OW, that must have hurt).

I guess it's no big whoop, since by this time BEWITCHED was already copied once on that same gimmick, when I DREAM OF JEANNIE introduced Jeannie's evil twin (but brunette) sister, Jinni.


Ya wanna talk ripoff?
In Betty Cooper Betty Cooper, Betty acquired an Uncle who was a Vampire!
Shades of Dark Shadows!
Or...was he a Cousin...?
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on September 26, 2016, 03:49:25 PM
Quote from: Captain Jetpack on September 26, 2016, 07:40:31 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 25, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Jetpack on September 25, 2016, 10:27:47 AM
In the 60s-70s, in Animation, Sabrina had a near-identical cousin, with b;lack hair.
Frantic, reckless personality, name escapes me.

Oh yeah. What a shameless ripoff of BEWITCHED that was. Maybe because Sabrina's appearance in ARCHIE'S MADHOUSE predated that show, ACP felt like it was fair game for them to copy Samantha's "identical-except-for-being-a-brunette" wildchild/partygirl cousin Serena (Serena/Sabrina... OW, that must have hurt).

I guess it's no big whoop, since by this time BEWITCHED was already copied once on that same gimmick, when I DREAM OF JEANNIE introduced Jeannie's evil twin (but brunette) sister, Jinni.


Ya wanna talk ripoff?
In Betty Cooper Betty Cooper, Betty acquired an Uncle who was a Vampire!
Shades of Dark Shadows!
Or...was he a Cousin...?

Ah yes, Betty's Uncle Drago... also known as Count Drago, who featured in one of the plotlines in the first 3 issues (BETTY AND ME #79 through #81) of the 8-part serial "Betty Cooper, Betty Cooper!" But to be honest, parody or satire is considered fair game (as opposed to plagiarism), and Frank Doyle's extended Betty story, which took its inspiration (and title) from the then-current TV show Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman (itself a satire) was merely poking fun at the ridiculous melodramatics and unlikely plot twists of ALL television soap operas.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: SAGG on September 28, 2016, 03:45:43 PM
I recall a story where Ronica took a picture of Betty when Betty had just gotten out of bed and gave it to Archie, who was going out on a date with Betty. Archie was angry with Ronica and refused to think badly of Betty. In retaliation, Ronica found her muscular and handsome cousin to go to Betty's to woo her from Archie. Archie, who had been waiting in front of Betty's for their date, show the picture of Betty to Ronica's cousin, who promptly ran for his life. An amused Archie then shouted out something to Ronica, who had been hiding behind a tree near Betty's house that rubbed salt into an incensed Ronica's wound. I wish I knew where that story was.... :(
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: steveinthecity on September 29, 2016, 12:30:09 AM
More to add:

Veronica #204 Mr. Lodge mentions Mrs. Lodge is away visiting Veronica's Aunt Latisha.
Betty & Veronica #1 - Betty's Uncle Oscar is shown in the story as a circus clown and he gives Betty his car.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: steveinthecity on October 01, 2016, 04:08:14 AM

A few more:

Jughead's Aunt Rose appears in "Seer Suckers" as a fortune teller in a story by Doyle/Schwartz.


Betty mentions her Uncle Emil as someone who collects old hubcaps in "The Big Search" in B&V Friends Double Digest #248.


Veronica's cousin Rumpston(Mr. Lodge's nephew) appears in "Party Favor" in the same digest.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: steveinthecity on October 04, 2016, 04:44:32 AM
Still a few more:


Archie's Uncle George is mentioned in passing by Archie's Father.  "Message Muddle" by Gladir/Bolling.


Archie's Uncle Angus sends a talking parrot as a gift to Archie in "Buccaneer By-Play" by Gladir/Goldberg.


Archie's unnamed Grandfather appears in one panel in "A Chance To Dance" by Gladir/Goldberg.


Betty's young cousin Becky appears in "Sooo Cute" by Greg Crosby/Goldberg.


Betty introduces her Aunt "Ms. Cooper" to Mr. Weatherbee in "Jog Agog" by Gladir/Goldberg.  Betty's Aunt is a writer for the Riverdale Sentinel.


Betty's Aunt Clara appears in "The Tour" by Gladir/Parent.  Aunt Clara is driving Betty and Veronica to visit colleges in the Northeast.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: BettyReggie on October 04, 2016, 08:52:15 PM
I remember a story where Archie had a British cousin named Alistair, Archie didn't care for him. Archie thought Alistair was weird & that he was a nerd. But then Archie's mom forced him to take him to Pop's & let him met your friends.
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: steveinthecity on October 07, 2016, 03:56:57 AM

...more...

Jughead's Uncle Bob leaves Jug an inheritance in his will.  Jughead's Mother is entirely unaffected by the news of Bob's passing, so this must be a relation from the Father's side of the family.  By Gladir/Goldberg.


Archie is an usher at the wedding of his cousin Max. We also meet Max's fiancee, Julie.  "Matri-Moan-y" by Angelo DeCesare/Goldberg.


Archie's (unseen) Uncle Thurston sends him a parrot named Pedro as a gift from his trip to Africa in "Bye Bye Birdie" by Bill Golliher/Fernando R.
*Spoiler*  Pedro "plops" on Reggie's head while appearing on national tv.   ;D
Title: Re: The relatives - Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Grandparents
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on October 07, 2016, 06:53:11 AM
Those are some large families.  ::) The senior Andrews, Coopers, Joneses, and Lodges must all have had more than a dozen siblings.