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Started by stangoldberg4ever, October 03, 2017, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: Mr.Lodge on November 07, 2017, 12:12:57 PMWhy? Because she's the only person capable of getting the best of Jughead?
Quote from: SAGG on November 07, 2017, 03:31:44 PMQuote from: Mr.Lodge on November 07, 2017, 12:12:57 PMWhy? Because she's the only person capable of getting the best of Jughead? I think she gets too much the best of Jughead. Trula seems to do no wrong with him, completely crippling Jughead, seemingly almost all the time. Then again, Jughead allows himself to let her really get in his head, and he gets riled up, which makes it worse...
Quote from: Mr.Lodge on November 08, 2017, 11:46:54 AMI think a lot of his attitude towards women comes from seeing how Veronica (and others like Cheryl) treats Archie like crap even though he is too much of a lapdog for her (her fickleness doesn't help either).
Quote from: SAGG on November 10, 2017, 07:51:36 AMQuote from: Mr.Lodge on November 08, 2017, 11:46:54 AMI think a lot of his attitude towards women comes from seeing how Veronica (and others like Cheryl) treats Archie like crap even though he is too much of a lapdog for her (her fickleness doesn't help either).Excellent point. Jughead sees his buddy as very pliable to girl's "wiles" (also one his strengths with them-he doesn't want to hurt any, though he does it when he sees other girls behind their backs), and he doesn't want to be treated like that. My deal with Trula is that she doesn't seem to have any flaws, which is of course not true. I seem to recall the story where Juhead stayed at her home when he was trying to prove a point to his parents about staying under their roof. We found out a little about Trula, where her parents were divorced. I think DR pointed out when she couldn't control them not staying together as a child, and she's been trying to make up for it ever since through her psychology. I like a story where Trula gets hers, such as the one where she spreads rumors about Betty and Ronica, reversing what most people usually thought of the girls, saying Betty isn't as nice as she seems, while Ronica is much nicer than she appears, all to aid her study about people's reactions. Jughead got wind of it, and in the end, he poured some food on her in the cafeteria, and left her, all while doing it in a "gentle" manner.I think that Jughead's friendship with Betty is the most genuine outside of Archie. Recall at the end of the classic Archie story "Decisions" (in my second album, near the front). He told Betty if he kissed any girl, it would be Betty. He also said if Archie has to like a girl, he'd prefer Betty for him, and Jughead would approve. Throughout the years, Jughead has virtually almost always helped Betty over Ronica in Betty's battles for Archie's attentions. In the most recent new Archie book, Jughead recalled a memory when they were all children, concerning Betty: Hot Dog being hit by a car, and was struggling to survive while they were all at the veterinarian's office. Archie, not understanding (though he tries), said the worse thing possible while comforting Jughead: "I know how you feel". Jughead dismissed Archie and Betty in a huff. Betty came back later and sat with Jughead while he worried about Hot Dog. He knows Betty's a good person, throughout both the classic and the new versions. That hasn't changed....
QuoteNOTES FROM PSYCHOANALYSIS OF SUBJECT "J" (by T. Twyst):Subject displays an active imagination, and a strong desire to cast himself in a favorable image to himself and others. Subject believes that he is being passively observed, and that his actions require justification in the form of a narrative commentary, acted out for the benefit of those observers, on events of his life. Subject displays an involuntary strong emotional disturbance in reaction to the thought of "Trula Twyst", which causes him to break his self-defined character as an ersatz "Professor" (offering an explanation as calmly logical methodology) and disrupts his mental powers of concentration, as denoted by the logical progression of mathematical powers of ten (squared to cubed), to a non-sequitur association with nonsense-geometry ("double-polygoned"), as he symbolically casts aside his robes of professorial learning. Subject would like to believe he is a paragon of intelligence and knowledge, but when this self-delusion is shattered, he casts it aside along with his faith in his own rational ability, letting himself be guided by pure emotion. All reactions of Subject J continue to progress according to behavioral predictions.