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Title: What are your fav B&V fashion pages and Pin Ups?
Post by: kassandralove on March 13, 2017, 06:17:16 PM
Would love to see your top fashion pages and Pin ups other fashion pages are also welcome such as Katy Keene Josie and more!
Has there ever been Melody fashion pages? I can't remember.


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Title: Re: What are your fav B&V fashion pages and Pin Ups?
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on March 13, 2017, 07:17:40 PM
Any drawn by the two Dans.
Title: Re: What are your fav B&V fashion pages and Pin Ups?
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on March 13, 2017, 07:27:44 PM
Quote from: kassandralove on March 13, 2017, 06:17:16 PM
Has there ever been Melody fashion pages? I can't remember.

JOSIE always seemed to have pin-ups, but I don't remember any fashion pages per se. I'm sure if their were fashion pages for Josie and Pepper, then there would also have been fashion pages for Melody.

Post-Pussycats I can't remember seeing much in the way of fashion pages OR pin-ups, but I don't have a lot of the original issues. CapPalace would know, I think - she's got a largely complete run of JOSIE.
Title: Re: What are your fav B&V fashion pages and Pin Ups?
Post by: 60sBettyandReggie on March 13, 2017, 08:33:05 PM
QuoteHas there ever been Melody fashion pages?

Yes. I have been reading some old She's Josie comics and there are a few Melody Pinups/fashion pages.
Title: Re: What are your fav B&V fashion pages and Pin Ups?
Post by: steveinthecity on March 13, 2017, 08:42:58 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on March 13, 2017, 08:33:05 PM
QuoteHas there ever been Melody fashion pages?

Yes. I have been reading some old She's Josie comics and there are a few Melody Pinups/fashion pages.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/78/7c/e4/787ce40b05fa15dd890421b06cba476f.jpg)
Title: Re: What are your fav B&V fashion pages and Pin Ups?
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on March 14, 2017, 01:54:20 AM
Quote from: steveinthecity on March 13, 2017, 08:42:58 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on March 13, 2017, 08:33:05 PM
QuoteHas there ever been Melody fashion pages?

Yes. I have been reading some old She's Josie comics and there are a few Melody Pinups/fashion pages.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/78/7c/e4/787ce40b05fa15dd890421b06cba476f.jpg)

I think I must have a more exacting definition of what a fashion page is, but it isn't this. There are plenty of pin-up pages. In my definition what makes a fashion page a fashion page is that it isn't a funny candid moment from their lives, or a gag joke setup... they're modeling, posing as if for a catalog, to show off their outfits. There isn't a joke to justify the page, or even any dialog balloons, 95% of the time. It's just about the girls looking good, and maybe, depending on the editor's whims, an interactive page where a reader might see their design get credit and be illustrated by a professional artist.

I guess nobody ever bothers doing image searches when they wonder about these things but me, so here are a couple that I found that are actual fashion pages. I didn't find many, though, which makes me think maybe the fashion pages weren't that common in JOSIE. At least, not like they were in B&V.

These are two from SHE'S JOSIE #4.
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwestfieldcomics.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Fjosie4melody.jpg&hash=53834ad2d009eae55966075c4f81916d925413ac)
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwestfieldcomics.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Fjosie4josie.jpg&hash=faa329cd0bce29989f0c564b62c152bbbbd47c5f)


Apparently there were still a few fashion pages in later issues. Possibly from issue #46? (Just a guess, really.)
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freenied.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2FJosie4626-711x1024.jpg&hash=6d7e1084586266d4dd455dc67804f6133dc284d5)(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freenied.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2FJosie4627.jpg&hash=170bcab6ec1b811c0b5cd680c65c8566d2acca86)


Not sure exactly where these came from. My guess would be some of those ARCHIE GIANT SERIES issues.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/97/b4/b9/97b4b93edd943d1115759ff28de90ac0.jpg)

Couldn't find any better images of this page, Melody's "Punk Fashions".
I guess these are the kind of outfits Melody wore when they went out to see The Clash or The Sex Pistols or Black Flag or The Dead Kennedys play. I'm just going to roll with the theory that sure, she didn't blend and stuck out like a sore thumb, but nobody gave her a hard time, because... well, because she's Melody.
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.armagideon-time.com%2Fimg%2F120831%2F0831.jpg&hash=ffe5f48b9bbaaabda8e5598dd622b7fd66a0b076)
(She could have gotten some help from Jughead... I mean, Captain Thrash.)

Title: Re: What are your fav B&V fashion pages and Pin Ups?
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on March 14, 2017, 02:55:01 AM
Oh, and here's another example of a pin-up. BUT... it's a cover, you say. There's very little difference in most Archie comic books, anyway. Most covers are just pin-ups that happen to be outside on the front of the book.
(https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/759097.jpg)
Or if you want to look at it another way, they had a few extra covers lying around, so they just printed one on the inside instead and called it a pin-up.

Either way you slice it, it's still a one-panel gag. The only real difference between a one-panel cover gag and a one-panel pin-up gag is that for the cover, whoever's name is in the title needs to be in the one-panel cover gag, so a one-panel pin-up gag that only has the characters Melody and Alex in it won't make a good cover for a comic book whose title is JOSIE. Josie doesn't even have to be the focus of the one-panel cover gag, she just needs to be in the picture, even if she's not doing anything but watching or laughing. Other than that, they're interchangeable. All of the JOSIE one-panel cover gags could also have been used as one-panel pin-up gags. Later on in the 1970s, they stopped using the one-panel gags on some covers, and instead of a joke, the cover showed some scene from a story inside the comic, so that cover was only really appropriate to use for the single issue that carried that particular story, but most Archie covers just have jokes unrelated to whatever stories are inside that issue. The few titles that were exceptions to that were the minority  of series that focused less on humorous stories, like LIFE WITH ARCHIE or ARCHIE AT RIVERDALE HIGH.

There's one more type of pin-up page that doesn't really involve any kind of joke, but just shows a typical scene with a good looking girl as the focus, but which can also work as a cover. The cover shown here is connected to a story inside, but without the dialogue balloons and the silhouettes of the two sinister figures lurking in the background, it would have been equally appropriate if it appeared inside this or another issue of JOSIE with a title like "Melody's Pin-Up".

(https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/804071.jpg)
Title: Re: What are your fav B&V fashion pages and Pin Ups?
Post by: steveinthecity on March 15, 2017, 02:07:46 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on March 14, 2017, 01:54:20 AM
Quote from: steveinthecity on March 13, 2017, 08:42:58 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on March 13, 2017, 08:33:05 PM
QuoteHas there ever been Melody fashion pages?

Yes. I have been reading some old She's Josie comics and there are a few Melody Pinups/fashion pages.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/78/7c/e4/787ce40b05fa15dd890421b06cba476f.jpg)

I think I must have a more exacting definition of what a fashion page is, but it isn't this. There are plenty of pin-up pages. In my definition what makes a fashion page a fashion page is that it isn't a funny candid moment from their lives, or a gag joke setup... they're modeling, posing as if for a catalog, to show off their outfits. There isn't a joke to justify the page, or even any dialog balloons, 95% of the time. It's just about the girls looking good, and maybe, depending on the editor's whims, an interactive page where a reader might see their design get credit and be illustrated by a professional artist.

I guess nobody ever bothers doing image searches when they wonder about these things but me, so here are a couple that I found that are actual fashion pages. I didn't find many, though, which makes me think maybe the fashion pages weren't that common in JOSIE. At least, not like they were in B&V.

These are two from SHE'S JOSIE #4.
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwestfieldcomics.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Fjosie4melody.jpg&hash=53834ad2d009eae55966075c4f81916d925413ac)
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwestfieldcomics.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Fjosie4josie.jpg&hash=faa329cd0bce29989f0c564b62c152bbbbd47c5f)


Apparently there were still a few fashion pages in later issues. Possibly from issue #46? (Just a guess, really.)
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freenied.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2FJosie4626-711x1024.jpg&hash=6d7e1084586266d4dd455dc67804f6133dc284d5)(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freenied.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2FJosie4627.jpg&hash=170bcab6ec1b811c0b5cd680c65c8566d2acca86)


Not sure exactly where these came from. My guess would be some of those ARCHIE GIANT SERIES issues.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/97/b4/b9/97b4b93edd943d1115759ff28de90ac0.jpg)

Couldn't find any better images of this page, Melody's "Punk Fashions".
I guess these are the kind of outfits Melody wore when they went out to see The Clash or The Sex Pistols or Black Flag or The Dead Kennedys play. I'm just going to roll with the theory that sure, she didn't blend and stuck out like a sore thumb, but nobody gave her a hard time, because... well, because she's Melody.
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.armagideon-time.com%2Fimg%2F120831%2F0831.jpg&hash=ffe5f48b9bbaaabda8e5598dd622b7fd66a0b076)
(She could have gotten some help from Jughead... I mean, Captain Thrash.)
I'm pretty certain Melody never went to a Black Flag gig, just as I'm certain "Captain Thrash" was never at an SSDecontrol show, though the timelines overlapped.  One of my biggest Jughead disappointments.    :P