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Author Topic: Whew!  (Read 40575 times)

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SAGG

Re: Whew!
« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2017, 06:27:17 pm »
A sad Jughead story in my first album just added.  :( Plus a Dipsy Doodle. Enjoy!  :D

ArchieFan99

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Re: Whew!
« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2017, 10:35:57 pm »
nice images

SAGG

Re: Whew!
« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2017, 11:35:54 pm »

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Whew!
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2017, 11:59:52 pm »
Here's Jughead "coming out of the closet"...

Makes you wonder, don't it? Exactly what DOES go on in the Supply Room closet at Riverdale High School???
« Last Edit: June 25, 2017, 12:05:50 am by DeCarlo Rules »

Tokyo

Re: Whew!
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2017, 12:55:56 pm »
Have to cut down my Archie collection from 250 to 90. I've been trying to scan some stories from old digests and the pages always look so yellow and God forbid that the binding causes the pages to crease. Been trying to clean them up in Photoshop but I oversaturate the colors too much...any tips on scanning would be appreciated!

SAGG

Re: Whew!
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2017, 05:32:37 pm »
Have to cut down my Archie collection from 250 to 90. I've been trying to scan some stories from old digests and the pages always look so yellow and God forbid that the binding causes the pages to crease. Been trying to clean them up in Photoshop but I oversaturate the colors too much...any tips on scanning would be appreciated!
Hello, and welcome. Heck, I just use my snipping tool (thanks again, DR), and then scan them. I really don't think too much about the yellowing of the page or such. To me, it's the aging effect that naturally occurs to old comics. I don't worry about it myself...

Tokyo

Re: Whew!
« Reply #51 on: June 28, 2017, 12:37:06 am »
Have to cut down my Archie collection from 250 to 90. I've been trying to scan some stories from old digests and the pages always look so yellow and God forbid that the binding causes the pages to crease. Been trying to clean them up in Photoshop but I oversaturate the colors too much...any tips on scanning would be appreciated!
Hello, and welcome. Heck, I just use my snipping tool (thanks again, DR), and then scan them. I really don't think too much about the yellowing of the page or such. To me, it's the aging effect that naturally occurs to old comics. I don't worry about it myself...

Yeah, you're probably right. A lot of my older Archies are so dirty though lol.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Whew!
« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2017, 03:41:16 am »
Have to cut down my Archie collection from 250 to 90. I've been trying to scan some stories from old digests and the pages always look so yellow and God forbid that the binding causes the pages to crease. Been trying to clean them up in Photoshop but I oversaturate the colors too much...any tips on scanning would be appreciated!
Hello, and welcome. Heck, I just use my snipping tool (thanks again, DR), and then scan them. I really don't think too much about the yellowing of the page or such. To me, it's the aging effect that naturally occurs to old comics. I don't worry about it myself...

Yeah, you're probably right. A lot of my older Archies are so dirty though lol.

You can use image manipulation software to change brightness, contrast and color balances in a program like MS Office Picture Manager. If you don't have it in your version of MS Office, you can download it for free here (just follow the instructions on the page):
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Where-is-Picture-Manager-58837c3e-34db-4904-95e8-4eca7b7c5730

You can further manipulate your scanned images using Paint, and even erase spots of dirt in the white areas.

One tip would be to always save a copy of the original scan before you start to play around with it. Then if you're not satisfied with the end results of your tinkering, you can always make another copy and try again, until you figure out a combination of adjustments that seem to work. Sometimes you need to adjust several things, brightness AND contrast AND color balance. Some people think it's all one thing or the other, and push it to an extreme range in one thing, but it's better to make smaller adjustments on several different things -- you just need to figure out the right combination.

Another tip would be to try and figure out what the absolute minimum resolution scan that would be acceptable to you is. Try scanning once that way, and once at a much higher resolution, and see if one or the other gets better results after manipulating a copy. Even if the scanned resolution is far too high to be practical, you can always reduce the resolution later, after you've manipulated it to your satisfaction.

If you try and straighten a crooked image, you lose resolution, so try to scan it straight in the first place. Another good reason for that is that if the panel borders and gutters are ruled absolutely straight, as they should be in most cases, you can drop a rectangular strip of white along the top, bottom and sides, and even in the gutters -- if there's not a lot of uncolored space inside the panels, that would take care of most of the page yellowing. Of course you still have to deal with word balloons.

You also can't get rid of wrinkles in the pages, so you need to flatten those out as much as possible when scanning, even if it means putting something on top of the book to hold the page flat.

A lot of the questions boil down to how much time do you want to spend manipulating each page? However, in the beginning you need to spend a lot of time on a few pages, just to figure out what sort of general adjustments get the best results. Once you do that, later pages will go faster.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2017, 05:06:01 am by DeCarlo Rules »

Tokyo

Re: Whew!
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2017, 01:16:20 pm »
Have to cut down my Archie collection from 250 to 90. I've been trying to scan some stories from old digests and the pages always look so yellow and God forbid that the binding causes the pages to crease. Been trying to clean them up in Photoshop but I oversaturate the colors too much...any tips on scanning would be appreciated!
Hello, and welcome. Heck, I just use my snipping tool (thanks again, DR), and then scan them. I really don't think too much about the yellowing of the page or such. To me, it's the aging effect that naturally occurs to old comics. I don't worry about it myself...

Yeah, you're probably right. A lot of my older Archies are so dirty though lol.

You can use image manipulation software to change brightness, contrast and color balances in a program like MS Office Picture Manager. If you don't have it in your version of MS Office, you can download it for free here (just follow the instructions on the page):
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Where-is-Picture-Manager-58837c3e-34db-4904-95e8-4eca7b7c5730

You can further manipulate your scanned images using Paint, and even erase spots of dirt in the white areas.

One tip would be to always save a copy of the original scan before you start to play around with it. Then if you're not satisfied with the end results of your tinkering, you can always make another copy and try again, until you figure out a combination of adjustments that seem to work. Sometimes you need to adjust several things, brightness AND contrast AND color balance. Some people think it's all one thing or the other, and push it to an extreme range in one thing, but it's better to make smaller adjustments on several different things -- you just need to figure out the right combination.

Another tip would be to try and figure out what the absolute minimum resolution scan that would be acceptable to you is. Try scanning once that way, and once at a much higher resolution, and see if one or the other gets better results after manipulating a copy. Even if the scanned resolution is far too high to be practical, you can always reduce the resolution later, after you've manipulated it to your satisfaction.

If you try and straighten a crooked image, you lose resolution, so try to scan it straight in the first place. Another good reason for that is that if the panel borders and gutters are ruled absolutely straight, as they should be in most cases, you can drop a rectangular strip of white along the top, bottom and sides, and even in the gutters -- if there's not a lot of uncolored space inside the panels, that would take care of most of the page yellowing. Of course you still have to deal with word balloons.

You also can't get rid of wrinkles in the pages, so you need to flatten those out as much as possible when scanning, even if it means putting something on top of the book to hold the page flat.

A lot of the questions boil down to how much time do you want to spend manipulating each page? However, in the beginning you need to spend a lot of time on a few pages, just to figure out what sort of general adjustments get the best results. Once you do that, later pages will go faster.

I'm scanning as PNG files (~20-30 MB per page). I've been placing heavy coffeetable books over the comics when scanning to try to "iron out the wrinkles". Some are so badly water-damaged that probably only cutting the individual pages out would create a good-quality image (and I'm not willing to do that).

At this point I think I'm only going to edit the stories where the color on the page is consistent (1989 comics and later). It's gonna be way too much time and effort cleaning up the older stories, and I don't think I'll be satisfied with the results unless I go in and recolor those myself, which...no.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Whew!
« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2017, 02:39:12 am »
At this point I think I'm only going to edit the stories where the color on the page is consistent (1989 comics and later). It's gonna be way too much time and effort cleaning up the older stories, and I don't think I'll be satisfied with the results unless I go in and recolor those myself, which...no.

I can't quite recall now whether there was a way to save a particular combination of editing adjustments in Photoshop, so that you can repeat the same operations on a number of different files, maintaining the same consistency. That's the sort of thing that's helpful in applying changes to all of the pages in a single comic book scanned. I used to save a lot of pages from public domain Golden Age comic scans, so yellowing/browning of pages was often the big issue, as the original scanner just uploaded raw unedited scans of the comic.

Tokyo

Re: Whew!
« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2017, 11:57:02 am »
At this point I think I'm only going to edit the stories where the color on the page is consistent (1989 comics and later). It's gonna be way too much time and effort cleaning up the older stories, and I don't think I'll be satisfied with the results unless I go in and recolor those myself, which...no.

I can't quite recall now whether there was a way to save a particular combination of editing adjustments in Photoshop, so that you can repeat the same operations on a number of different files, maintaining the same consistency. That's the sort of thing that's helpful in applying changes to all of the pages in a single comic book scanned. I used to save a lot of pages from public domain Golden Age comic scans, so yellowing/browning of pages was often the big issue, as the original scanner just uploaded raw unedited scans of the comic.

Yep, Photoshop actions are basically preset edits. For me, though, the time-consuming part can't be done with actions (i.e. cleaning up a dirty page), so I wouldn't be saving too much time.

Photoshop keeps crashing my computer...I just want to be finished with this little "project"  :crazy2:

Anyways, that's enough derailing SAGG's thread  :-X

SAGG

Re: Whew!
« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2017, 05:51:13 pm »
Stuff added to my second album, including a classic one with a relatively famous ending. Enjoy!  :D

SAGG

Re: Whew!
« Reply #57 on: July 24, 2017, 06:17:32 pm »
Cheryl Blossom story in album one, and Mr. Svenson Gag Bag in album two added. Enjoy!  :D

SAGG

Re: Whew!
« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2017, 07:08:12 pm »
Hmm. I wonder if I should get rid of my second album. Not too many hits on it for a while....  ???

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Whew!
« Reply #59 on: August 03, 2017, 07:01:16 am »
Just a suggestion, SAGG... you can take it or leave it. The albums are unusually large, which makes them harder to navigate if someone's looking for some particular type of story. Might I suggest you break those large albums up into smaller albums, sorted by whatever means seems to make the most sense to you? By characters, artists, decades, or whatever... and then name them accordingly. If all you did was just to break those 2 big albums down into smaller ones of around 250-300 pages it would be a lot easier to navigate, even if you didn't try to organize the stories in any way.

Right now what you've got is 2 monolithic ARCHIE UltraMEGA-Ginormous-palooza 1100-1200+ Page Comics Digests.

 


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