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Your Pal Archie

Started by Vegan Jughead, July 23, 2017, 11:26:37 AM

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Vegan Jughead

Got issue one in the mail yesterday as part of my subscription.


Pretty fun!  Great art and I like that there's several shorter stories instead of one long one.  B&V are beautiful drawn by Dan of course!!!

BettyReggie

My copies are coming from Midtown Comics.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: Vegan Jughead on July 23, 2017, 11:26:37 AM
Got issue one in the mail yesterday as part of my subscription.


Pretty fun!  Great art and I like that there's several shorter stories instead of one long one.  B&V are beautiful drawn by Dan of course!!!

I thought I read an interview with Dan that said each issue would have two stories -- one complete, and another which continues into the next issue.

chrisophical

I got mine in the mail a few days ago and really enjoyed it! I thought it was quite funny, and having it continue into the next issue makes it more interesting.

I also really want to get my hands on the 5 variant covers when they come out!

DeCarlo Rules

I like the idea of 2 stories in each issue, and the idea that one is complete, but the other is continued in the next issue. That allows for variety of stories (if you don't like one of them that much, you may like the other one better), plus stories of different lengths. And if it's done right, the "continued" story can be written in such a way that it's sort-of complete in itself, while still leading into a second part - basically complications or consequences arising from the events of the first part. That gives it a connection and encourages people to pick up the following issue to see what's going to happen next.

DeCarlo Rules

Your Pal Archie #1 was good. It contains 3 stories, the first of which (12 pages) is complete in this issue. The second story (8 pages) is Part 1 of a longer story, so it ends on a "To Be Continued!" teaser (not going to give away any spoilers here). The third story is a classic B&V reprint (5 pages), although the story selected is a relatively recent one, also by Dan Parent, so it doesn't look so obvious that it's a reprint (although it does actually say it's a classic reprint, so they're not trying to fool anyone here). It seemed vaguely familar to me, without checking, so I'm going to say it probably appeared in one of the two B&V digest titles within the past couple of years. It felt like a good selection to add some extra pages.

The cosmetic makeover of the characters was a little off-putting to me when first previewed, but in actual practice it doesn't make the stories that different. It felt like Ty and Dan were working from a presumption of readers having no real prior familiarity with the classic stories, so it's a bit of a clean break and a fresh start from that aspect. Notably absent from either of the new stories were any of those secondary supporting characters (virtually all of whom were created in the past decade) that Dan frequently likes working into his digest stories, since most new readers would not be familiar with them. All things considered, I find this to be a more-than-acceptable replacement floppy title for the 1st series ARCHIE, which ceased publication with issue #666 just about 2 years ago now, in a way that the New Riverdale ARCHIE will never be a replacement for me personally. I can accept it as an "alternate Archieverse" title for a different audience than me, but that's all. To me it will never be the "main" Archie.

I've mentioned this before, but all I really want is more new pages of classic Archie stories. I don't care what format they're in. It doesn't have to be the floppy comic format. I can accept the cosmetic facelift because that's what they think they need to do in order to sell this comic in the direct market. I'd probably have been happier to see them making a real effort to attract new readers to the digest titles by adding more pages of new stories (10-20 pages in every title), because that's where the real market for Archie seems to exist to me, outside the comic shops. If it were up to me I'd be making real efforts to reconnect the Archie characters with their main demographic, school-age kids, by pursuing formats that would get NEW stories into schools and libraries, where there already exists a "captive audience" of readers, and revitalizing the digests to make them more attractive to more readers. I do question what they think has changed in 2 years of absence of classic Archie stories in the floppy format that is suddenly going to result in a new influx of readers from the direct market (because outside of digital, that's really the only sales outlet here, comic book stores). If I had to hazard a guess I'd say they think the mere existence of Riverdale as a television show has raised awareness of the characters across the board to the point where a new classic floppy might be viable -- but I don't know... maybe I'm wrong, but it seems the mainstream comic shop consumers have always marginalized ACP's comic books and their characters, and never really embraced them like Marvel and DC's (or even Image or Dark Horse's) characters. Maybe relaunching with a new #1 will help, maybe not. I'd rather be wrong on this one.

ASS-P

#6
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...I had a real-world " Oh, come on! " problem (Possible acronym: OCO?) with the continued story in YPA#1...........Sixteen-year-olds are not allowed to play the lottery! Period. Therefore, the way the story will work out is extremely telegraphed - Except that you'll wonder why the lottery people let Archie temporarily have the money, then, as the " Coming Up " page said they would. Okay, MAYBE they' ll work it out differemtly (uh huh) :o .. .
  As it happens, IIRC I obtained YPA about the same time that there  was a story about just this...A man had won the lottery but the lottery was denying him it az the ticket had been physically bought by his teenage son when he sent the son to the store to buy him some other stuff and a ticket (Obviously, the clerk slipped :( .)...

ASS-P

Quote from: ASS-P on September 29, 2017, 12:53:42 PM
...SPOILER:
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...I had a real-world " Oh, come on! " problem (Possible acronym: OCO?) with the continued story in YPA#1...........Sixteen-year-olds are not allowed to play the lottery! Period. Therefore, the way the story will work out is extremely telegraphed - Except that you'll wonder why the lottery people let Archie temporarily have the money, then, as the " Coming Up " page said they would. Okay, MAYBE they' ll work it out differemtly (uh huh) :o .. .
  As it happens, IIRC I obtained YPA about?? the same time that there was a story in the news about just this...A man had won the lottery but the lottery was denying him it as the ticket had been physically bought by his teenage son when he sent the son to the store to buy him some other stuff and a ticket (Obviously, the clerk slipped :( .)...

Tuxedo Mark

Quote from: ASS-P on September 29, 2017, 12:53:42 PM
Sixteen-year-olds are not allowed to play the lottery!

How do you know Archie's not 18 in this story?
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DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: Tuxedo Mark on September 30, 2017, 06:46:39 PM
Quote from: ASS-P on September 29, 2017, 12:53:42 PM
Sixteen-year-olds are not allowed to play the lottery!

How do you know Archie's not 18 in this story?

Because he's still in high school? Nothing has changed in that respect. I guess the Archieverse just has different laws regarding playing the lottery.

rusty

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on October 01, 2017, 12:05:39 AM
Quote from: Tuxedo Mark on September 30, 2017, 06:46:39 PM
How do you know Archie's not 18 in this story?

Because he's still in high school? Nothing has changed in that respect. I guess the Archieverse just has different laws regarding playing the lottery.


There are plenty of high school students who are 18.  I turned 18 in January of my senior year, but I've had students who turned 18 before their senior year even started.


I haven't read the story in question and he probably isn't supposed  to be 18, but not just because he is still in high school.


DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: rusty on October 01, 2017, 01:52:37 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on October 01, 2017, 12:05:39 AM
Quote from: Tuxedo Mark on September 30, 2017, 06:46:39 PM
How do you know Archie's not 18 in this story?

Because he's still in high school? Nothing has changed in that respect. I guess the Archieverse just has different laws regarding playing the lottery.


There are plenty of high school students who are 18.  I turned 18 in January of my senior year, but I've had students who turned 18 before their senior year even started.


I haven't read the story in question and he probably isn't supposed  to be 18, but not just because he is still in high school.

It rarely seems to be mentioned in most stories, but the few times I can recall seeing it, Archie (and his friends) are mentioned as being 16.

But then, inconsistency is sort of the hallmark of Archie Comics stories, as in a story from earlier this year in one of the digests where Jellybean looks (and talks and acts) like she's 5 or 6 years old, as opposed to the baby or toddler she's usually portrayed as. This particular story had Archie and Jughead at a summer camp as counselors, and Jellybean as one of the campers, and she gets in trouble by running a money-making scam (selling the other campers snack foods on the sly at high markup cost) which she learned by imitating Jughead.

ASS-P

...ACP's " guide ", back at their Web site, said that Archie was 17/18, and a junior in HS??, as were all. He may have been 15/16 before?? (I do believe B&V went, likewise, in the official guide from being 15 (16) to 16 (17) - presumably make them closer to
" fully legal " - and " Sweet Sixteen " :smitten: .)
  This was the pre-2015 Archie, and furthermore, not the itself-seperate I suppose YPA version, I guess..." A boo-boo on the writer's part", is about the only real explanation! :idiot2:

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: ASS-P on October 02, 2017, 12:50:21 PM
...ACP's " guide ", back at their Web site, said that Archie was 17/18, and a junior in HS??, as were all. He may have been 15/16 before?? (I do believe B&V went, likewise, in the official guide from being 15 (16) to 16 (17) - presumably make them closer to
" fully legal " - and " Sweet Sixteen " :smitten: .)
  This was the pre-2015 Archie, and furthermore, not the itself-seperate I suppose YPA version, I guess..." A boo-boo on the writer's part", is about the only real explanation! :idiot2:

Well, I'm sure if they'd been thinking far enough ahead they would have made them all 18 to address the Riverdale gang's burning desire to purchase lottery tickets in the prescribed "fully legal" fashion. I mean clearly they are of legal age to obtain their drivers' licenses, but beyond that and a need to support the state-run gambling franchise, I can't imagine what they'd be needing to be old enough to do "fully legally". I am not a lawyer, but perhaps someone better versed in the law can explain to me the exact distinction between the "fully" type of legality and the other kind.

DeCarlo Rules

YOUR PAL ARCHIE #3 is out next week (along with the reprint ARCHIE'S HALLOWEEN SPECIAL)!

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