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Afterlife With Archie [spoilers]

Started by Thrillho, May 25, 2016, 12:03:36 PM

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Thrillho

The long awaited return of Afterlife With Archie is finally here!

Those of you who have read it, what did you think?

This is issue was a big game changer, and also quite sad. I guess we now know what Betty R.I.P. means, but will Reggie succeed?

I'm actually quite surprised by the way Reggie is portrayed in these comics, he's straight up awful but I did feel bad the way no one wanted to go after him, showing that Archie is the only decent one in this series. I don't think it's fair that Reggie should be blamed for the zombie apocalypse, it was huge a-hole move to deliberately hit Hot Dog but he could not have foreseen what it would lead to. Yeah, it was a horrible and inexcusable but he was not a threat to anyone, and didn't do anything after the group of survivors formed, well, that is, until now.




BettyReggie

I pre-order mine from tfaw. It didn't come yet.

daren


Quote from: Thrillho on May 25, 2016, 12:03:36 PM

This is issue was a big game changer, and also quite sad. I guess we now know what Betty R.I.P. means, but will Reggie succeed?



I doubt it, if he killed her he'd be another guy driven to evil out of desire for a girl and we just went there with Jason.

I'm going to have to reflect on the rest till I can be less negative, Reggie is the character I identify with most and the way ACP and the fans seesaw between saying he's scum and throwing him a pity party (not here, other sites) bothers me more than it should...and this book does that too and not very well in my opinion since it's written with all the subtlety of a gong. At least it FEELS that way to me right now, like I said I'm biased.

Thrillho

Quote from: daren on May 26, 2016, 03:36:01 AM

Quote from: Thrillho on May 25, 2016, 12:03:36 PM

This is issue was a big game changer, and also quite sad. I guess we now know what Betty R.I.P. means, but will Reggie succeed?



I doubt it, if he killed her he'd be another guy driven to evil out of desire for a girl and we just went there with Jason.

But why kill Betty though? How will her death help the evil zombie horde? I think her death might be likely, as apparently she and Archie are going through with their wedding, I don't think Roberto Aguirre Sacasa will let them get too happy.

DeCarlo Rules

#4
Quote from: Thrillho on May 25, 2016, 12:03:36 PM
I guess we now know what Betty R.I.P. means

Haven't read it yet. Not a spoiler AFAIC, though... there was never a doubt in my mind that R.I.P. means DEAD IS DEAD.

RA-S seems to take quite a bit of "Glee" ::) in putting these beloved characters through the wringer, and before it's all over the living will envy the dead. You might even say he's taking pity on Betty in allowing her a mercy exit, sparing her from (as they used to say on BATMAN '66) ..."The WORST is Yet To Come!" Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if by the time it's all over, Archie is the last man standing.

Quote"Cannibals? Who is not a cannibal? I tell you it will be more tolerable for the Fejee that salted down a lean missionary in his cellar against a coming famine; it will be more tolerable for that provident Fejee, I say, in the day of judgement, than for thee, civilized and enlightened gourmand, who nailest geese to the ground and feastest on their bloated livers in thy pate de fois gras."
  ― Herman MelvilleMoby Dick

spazaru

I just read it this morning.  I think it's brilliant.  I'm not a horror fan at all except for Afterlife With Archie and Sabrina. 


This book just has it all: laughs, tears, emotional pain, you name it.  It's a shame Archie Comics can't get it out regularly and now with the TV show, I'm not hopeful since Roberto writes both.  Oh well. 


Still, just a great comic.  Every issue is amazing.

Thrillho

Quote from: spazaru on May 27, 2016, 09:26:59 AM
It's a shame Archie Comics can't get it out regularly and now with the TV show, I'm not hopeful since Roberto writes both.  Oh well.

I wonder about that too. Would you prefer it come out regularly with another writer or have RAS see it through until the end?

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: Thrillho on May 27, 2016, 01:48:25 PM
Quote from: spazaru on May 27, 2016, 09:26:59 AM
It's a shame Archie Comics can't get it out regularly and now with the TV show, I'm not hopeful since Roberto writes both.  Oh well.

I wonder about that too. Would you prefer it come out regularly with another writer or have RAS see it through until the end?


The only reason I'm still reading it is under the assumption that RA-S has an ending planned (and within a reasonable number of issues). If ACP thinks they're going to put another writer on it and try to play it out (monthly) for as long as people are willing to pony up $4 an issue, I am O-U-T.

spazaru

Quote from: Thrillho on May 27, 2016, 01:48:25 PM
Quote from: spazaru on May 27, 2016, 09:26:59 AM
It's a shame Archie Comics can't get it out regularly and now with the TV show, I'm not hopeful since Roberto writes both.  Oh well.

I wonder about that too. Would you prefer it come out regularly with another writer or have RAS see it through until the end?

I'm not sure anyone else could write like this.  If so, I'd prefer another writer and it come out regularly.  It's the best thing Archie Comics is doing right now, IMO, and since I only read Archie Comics titles, it's my favorite comic. 

invisifan

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 27, 2016, 03:33:03 PM
The only reason I'm still reading it is under the assumption that RA-S has an ending planned (and within a reasonable number of issues). If ACP thinks they're going to put another writer on it and try to play it out (monthly) for as long as people are willing to pony up $4 an issue, I am O-U-T.
This issue actually looks hopeful for their world in a way — the flesheaters are centrally controlled, the central control believes that the humans have a "hope" and at least claim that they could be restored to normal (though I wouldn't trust that part) and there's also the question of how corrupted Sabrina is now ... knowing that I could see a plan to break that link and end things in the course of a limited series of as short as 15 issues (based on 5-issue arcs). I would bet on Sabrina's collusion, though not necessarily survival (not sure if she'd want to), and like vs. Predator I don't know how many others could be expected to survive.

DeCarlo Rules

#10
Quote from: invisifan on May 27, 2016, 04:15:27 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 27, 2016, 03:33:03 PM
The only reason I'm still reading it is under the assumption that RA-S has an ending planned (and within a reasonable number of issues). If ACP thinks they're going to put another writer on it and try to play it out (monthly) for as long as people are willing to pony up $4 an issue, I am O-U-T.
This issue actually looks hopeful for their world in a way — the flesheaters are centrally controlled, the central control believes that the humans have a "hope" and at least claim that they could be restored to normal (though I wouldn't trust that part) and there's also the question of how corrupted Sabrina is now ... knowing that I could see a plan to break that link and end things in the course of a limited series of as short as 15 issues (based on 5-issue arcs). I would bet on Sabrina's collusion, though not necessarily survival (not sure if she'd want to), and like vs. Predator I don't know how many others could be expected to survive.


Oh, I'm not expecting Archie & friends to win. The die has already been cast, as it were. I just don't want to see the thing drag on and on, giving some faint hope of winning every so often so that they can draw it out for another arc after another arc. I'm all for stepping up the body count so we can move this thing along to its ultimate conclusion.


There are no happy endings to zombie stories, unless it involves Dan Parent drawing the final page.

spazaru

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 27, 2016, 04:40:15 PM
Quote from: invisifan on May 27, 2016, 04:15:27 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 27, 2016, 03:33:03 PM
The only reason I'm still reading it is under the assumption that RA-S has an ending planned (and within a reasonable number of issues). If ACP thinks they're going to put another writer on it and try to play it out (monthly) for as long as people are willing to pony up $4 an issue, I am O-U-T.
This issue actually looks hopeful for their world in a way — the flesheaters are centrally controlled, the central control believes that the humans have a "hope" and at least claim that they could be restored to normal (though I wouldn't trust that part) and there's also the question of how corrupted Sabrina is now ... knowing that I could see a plan to break that link and end things in the course of a limited series of as short as 15 issues (based on 5-issue arcs). I would bet on Sabrina's collusion, though not necessarily survival (not sure if she'd want to), and like vs. Predator I don't know how many others could be expected to survive.


Oh, I'm not expecting Archie & friends to win. The die has already been cast, as it were. I just don't want to see the thing drag on and on, giving some faint hope of winning every so often so that they can draw it out for another arc after another arc. I'm all for stepping up the body count so we can move this thing along to its ultimate conclusion.


There are no happy endings to zombie stories, unless it involves Dan Parent drawing the final page.

Actually, I am expecting Archie and friends to win.  Counting on it in fact!

daren

#12

I read it again and I'm more objective now but sorry, I don't have the high opinion of this issue, or at this point the whole series, that some other people here do, and I don't want to be a downer so I'll just say this:

Switching writers at this point would be a good idea. Roberto's going to be too busy with the tv series and many writers could do this story, including many of the regular writers who used to or still do work for Archie. All Roberto has to do is give some general directions and they're set.

Quote from: Thrillho on May 26, 2016, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: daren on May 26, 2016, 03:36:01 AM

Quote from: Thrillho on May 25, 2016, 12:03:36 PM

This is issue was a big game changer, and also quite sad. I guess we now know what Betty R.I.P. means, but will Reggie succeed?



I doubt it, if he killed her he'd be another guy driven to evil out of desire for a girl and we just went there with Jason.

But why kill Betty though? How will her death help the evil zombie horde?

I'm not sure. I agree that Betty might die some other way though, I agree about the others being wrong to turn their backs on Reggie too.

BettyReggie

I'm guessing mine will come today. But I did listen to Riverdale Podcast, so I know what happens. I'm just wondering what's going when the book ends. Will Riverdale go back to normal. Was it all dream? 

Meldarwin

I am hoping it ends mixed, a glimmer of hope but not happy ever after.

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