Fernando's debut on "Eerie Cuties" starts here. And it is essentially independent/a good jumping on point ...

Awesome! Thanks for the heads up!

Looks like great things are happening for Fernando Ruiz.

Quote from: invisifan on April 09, 2016, 07:48:33 AM
Fernando's debut on "Eerie Cuties" starts here. And it is essentially independent/a good jumping on point ...

Good. Haven't been that into eerie cuties in the past.

Thanks for spreading the word, Guys! I hope you like my stuff on Eerie Cuties.


More is on the way!

Page 12 of 12 of Siren Brawl is up ... just noticed the BC homage  — great stuff ... anticipating more 

Quote from: invisifan on May 13, 2016, 04:02:13 PM
Page 12 of 12 of Siren Brawl is up ... just noticed the BC homage  — great stuff ... anticipating more 

Is this a standalone 12 page "guest artist" story for Fernando, or is he doing a whole volume of Eerie Cuties? And wasn't there supposed to be a Dan Parent story as well, or is that what's coming up next?

I gather he (they?) will be regular contributors to EC & also MC (due to re-start soon) ... beyond that Fernando or gisele would have to weigh in ...

Quote from: invisifan on May 13, 2016, 05:27:53 PM
I gather he (they?) will be regular contributors to EC & also MC (due to re-start soon) ... beyond that Fernando or gisele would have to weigh in ...

If Fernando's 12 page story is complete, I guess I will try to read it tonight/tomorrow morning, then. I'm not used to EC doing self-contained shorts, as I kind of adjusted to the long (no set page count) chapters. I just hate waiting days between pages.

Yep, complete — and long if it was an Archie story ... 

I read some of the story about 6 pages. I didn't really get it maybe because I'm not that familiar with the franchise. Maybe it'll make more sense if I go back and read all 12 pages together. I wonder if Fernando had these 12 pages planned out in advance or took it day by day. I wonder that of a lot of webcomics actually. Maybe that's why they read so disjointed--- it's like they're making it up as they go.

The one thing that you might need/want to know is that Tiffany (the blonde) is a wannabe Monster-slayer (à la Buffy-the-Vampire-Slayer) who goes to a girls' school that specializing in that sort of thing ... (she's enthusiastic, but not great at it ... she doesn't have a lot of friends and most of those are things she should be slaying) ...

Quote from: irishmoxie on May 13, 2016, 06:03:32 PM
I read some of the story about 6 pages. I didn't really get it maybe because I'm not that familiar with the franchise. Maybe it'll make more sense if I go back and read all 12 pages together. I wonder if Fernando had these 12 pages planned out in advance or took it day by day. I wonder that of a lot of webcomics actually. Maybe that's why they read so disjointed--- it's like they're making it up as they go.

The "making it up as (they) go" theory is in fact the working method of some writer/artists, although that tends to apply mainly to the layout/breakdowns stage of the art pages. These are writer/artists who find the best storytelling approach for them is to pace the story by "writing" in pictures, rather than typing up script or even a synopsis. Some just do it as thumbnails to work out the pace and the panel layout.

Seems unlikely in this case, because Fernando didn't write the story, he just drew it based on David Lumsden's script. Unless David and Fernando were working together in something like what they used to call "the Lee/Kirby method" where the writer and artist have a story conference (could even be a phone call or an email exchange), then the artist goes off to do the pencilling based on notes (his own or the writer's), and when he's done he returns the story to the writer, who looks over what the artist drew and then writes the dialogue, captions, and sound FX based on the pictures he sees. That's not as common a working method as it once was, though, and I don't think it was ever the case (apart from when Stan Lee was editor/head writer at Marvel in the mid-1960s) that it was the predominant method... even though other people besides Lee and Kirby have used it.

The most common way of collaboration between a writer and an artist is simply for the artist to type out the script giving detailed instructions to the artist about what (action, visual and background details, facial expressions, captions, SFX and dialogue) goes into each individual panel on the page. The artist still usually has leeway to interpret the physical layout of the page and positioning of the figures within the panels to some extent, as long as he's incorporating the information (and leaving enough room for dialogue balloons and captions) that the writer described. I guess working in that method it's still entirely possible for the writer to parcel out the script to the artist one page at a time, so that the artist really doesn't even know what might be coming up on the next page or how the story might end. Even that doesn't mean that the writer didn't carefully break down in his mind (even before actually typing each individual page of script) exactly what was going to happen on each page of the story, so that it would move forward to the ending that he had in mind.

AFTEREDIT:

Having just read the entire 12 page story, I couldn't find anything the least bit unclear about it, or seeming as if it was meandering somehow in getting where it was going. Maybe it was the way you read it. Of course, I did read it all in one sitting, but it reads pretty much like any 12 page Archie story. Well, if it was featuring the Eerie Cuties characters of Tiffany Winters and her brother Dusty, and ACP stories allowed for any sort of extremely mild sexual humor. Tiffany's rival Tracy and Marine (the siren) are entirely new characters (at least, I don't remember Tracy from a previous Eerie Cuties story...) If it's unclear what a siren is or what she does, you'll have to look to Wikipedia.

Good story. Tracy is kinda cute and reminds me a little of a cross between Alexandra Cabot and Wendy Weatherbee (and that's a good thing). Fernando's art here is uniformly good throughout, better than good in fact (I mean, even better than his usual Archie artwork). Tiffany is probably my favorite of all the regular EC characters (discounting Chloe who has her own series now, and isn't really part of the main cast any more). She's not necessarily the brightest bulb in the pack, but she's got a good heart (which conflicts with her slayer job sometimes).

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 14, 2016, 05:05:24 AM
Having just read the entire 12 page story, I couldn't find anything the least bit unclear about it, or seeming as if it was meandering somehow in getting where it was going. Maybe it was the way you read it. Of course, I did read it all in one sitting, but it reads pretty much like any 12 page Archie story. Well, if it was featuring the Eerie Cuties characters of Tiffany Winters and her brother Dusty, and ACP stories allowed for any sort of extremely mild sexual humor. Tiffany's rival Tracy and Marine (the siren) are entirely new characters (at least, I don't remember Tracy from a previous Eerie Cuties story...) If it's unclear what a siren is or what she does, you'll have to look to Wikipedia.

Tiffany's school (Artemis Academy) mostly appears in Magic Chicks, where there's a whole raft of other students — most of whom Tiff would consider rivals and wouldn't get along with any better — but Tracy doesn't stand out in that crowd and I think she may in fact be new (at least in terms of having a separate, personal identity).

Quote from: invisifan on May 14, 2016, 10:40:59 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 14, 2016, 05:05:24 AM
Having just read the entire 12 page story, I couldn't find anything the least bit unclear about it, or seeming as if it was meandering somehow in getting where it was going. Maybe it was the way you read it. Of course, I did read it all in one sitting, but it reads pretty much like any 12 page Archie story. Well, if it was featuring the Eerie Cuties characters of Tiffany Winters and her brother Dusty, and ACP stories allowed for any sort of extremely mild sexual humor. Tiffany's rival Tracy and Marine (the siren) are entirely new characters (at least, I don't remember Tracy from a previous Eerie Cuties story...) If it's unclear what a siren is or what she does, you'll have to look to Wikipedia.

Tiffany's school (Artemis Academy) mostly appears in Magic Chicks, where there's a whole raft of other students — most of whom Tiff would consider rivals and wouldn't get along with any better — but Tracy doesn't stand out in that crowd and I think she may in fact be new (at least in terms of having a separate, personal identity).

This seems to be the first story in which Tiff is the main star (previously, she's had about equal roles as part of the ensemble cast of both EC and MC). I suppose you could edit some pages down from a chapter or two to make a short where Tiff was the star, and have it read as a self-contained story. There might have been an earlier short-short, but I think I've forgotten what it was. I kinda think Tiffany is actually the most likely candidate for another spinoff series of her own (assuming they could find the right people to do it). There still seems to gobs of stuff largely unexplored about her background history, family, etc. I like her earnestness and sincerity, even though she's really still kind of a wannabe and sometimes a little bit of a spaz. She's kind of like a sidekick without a mentor.

I had barely remembered Dusty, come to that... he'd played kind of a small role in Magick Chicks (we really don't get to see much of the boys' school.., forgot the name of it). Of course Tracy could be a member of Artemis Academy, but I got the impression that slayers were fairly uncommon in numbers (compared to other monster types and monster hunter types). This might be subjective too, but I sort of have the idea that most slayers would be above all that "team player" stuff  and more sort of the aloof lone wolf type. At least, Tracy is giving me that impression. It seems likely that Tracy hasn't appeared anywhere (unless she didn't make much of an impression as part of a crowd scene). Somehow the way the story made a big deal about her being Tiff's arch-rival made me think this was supposed to be a new revelation about her past. If Tracy were at Artemis, it seems like there'd have been some big scene with her and Tiff earlier in MC. I like that situation with Dusty having a crush on his sister's "arch nemesis". Obviously there's got to be a story sometime involving Tracy, Layla, and Tiffany. I also want to see a flashback story with Layla's mom and Melissa's mom (well, the one who was originally a sorceress), since if I recall correctly, it was established that they knew each other back when.

I was glad to read that Magick Chicks is starting up again soon. I think I prefer MC over EC, overall. Well.. teenage witches, so...

Now I'm trying to remember what character(s) Dan was supposed to be drawing in his short story. Was it Layla?