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"Future Quest"...

Started by SAGG, May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM

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SAGG

...A comic book by DC Comics, just came out. I like the beginning so far. It's using the classic 1960's Hanna-Barbera superheroes, fused with Jonny Quest. Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes. I figured some of you, particularly DeCarlo Rules, would get a kick out of it, if you don't know already. Something really big is happening, and it's quite nasty, it seems....

DeCarlo Rules

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Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
...A comic book by DC Comics, just came out. I like the beginning so far. It's using the classic 1960's Hanna-Barbera superheroes, fused with Jonny Quest. Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes. I figured some of you, particularly DeCarlo Rules, would get a kick out of it, if you don't know already. Something really big is happening, and it's quite nasty, it seems....

Jeff Parker also wrote the Batman '66 series, and a rebooted (updated for present day) Flash Gordon for Dynamite (along with artist Evan Shaner, who draws Future Quest). Future Quest definitely has the same feel as the latter title.

I was surprised and delighted by the multi-page sequence in FQ (I just mentally pronounced that, and it doesn't sound right) illustrated by Steve Rude, whom I consider to be a modern day master of comic book art (and whose love for the HB adventure characters, Space Ghost in particular, is well known). I assume he won't be a regular contributor to the series, but it was nice to see him get something in there.

I'm wondering if this series will incorporate background information about Space Ghost that was part of the 2005 miniseries written by Joe Kelly and published by DC giving an origin for that character, which was DC's last attempt to do something with the HB heroes. I'm not sure I recognized the same "origin story" in this issue that you did. On a sad note, Tundro of the Herculoids DIED in the first issue.  :'( Killing off characters (even if they are super-alien-animals) already?

I'm also quite curious to see the Wacky Races re-interpreted in the Mad Max/Death Race 2000 mode as Wacky Raceland. The Flintstones seems so much like the Archie reboot that it's a little bizarre. Not really digging the Scooby-Doo Apocalypse concept at all -- too Afterlife With Archie...?


daren

It looks good but I only know Space Ghost from Space Ghost Coast to Coast.

invisifan

Too bad, the original was pretty good (as I remember it at least) ... c2c not so much ...

SAGG

Quote from: daren on May 21, 2016, 07:58:42 PM
It looks good but I only know Space Ghost from Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
Then I strongly suggest that you find the original Space Ghost cartoons.  :) You'll love them...

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes.

So how do you interpret the scene where there's kind of a "Green Lantern Corps" wearing uniforms similar to Jan and Jace, and having some modified version of Space Ghost's power bands?

SAGG

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 03:55:31 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes.

So how do you interpret the scene where there's kind of a "Green Lantern Corps" wearing uniforms similar to Jan and Jace, and having some modified version of Space Ghost's power bands?
I have no earthly idea, DR.  :)  I just see how the dude came about. Feel free to do your own interpretation...

DeCarlo Rules

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Quote from: SAGG on May 22, 2016, 05:22:44 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 03:55:31 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes.

So how do you interpret the scene where there's kind of a "Green Lantern Corps" wearing uniforms similar to Jan and Jace, and having some modified version of Space Ghost's power bands?
I have no earthly idea, DR.  :)  I just see how the dude came about. Feel free to do your own interpretation...

No idea, really. Just that it left me with more of a general impression of "after Space Ghost" than "before Space Ghost". Like this group (the "Space Force" or whatever) seemed more "inspired by" than the other way around. Hope the Galaxy Trio (which always seemed to me to be a pretty straight 50/50 hybrid of the Fantastic Four and the Legion of Super-Heroes) is in the next issue.

SAGG

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 05:37:19 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 22, 2016, 05:22:44 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 03:55:31 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes.

So how do you interpret the scene where there's kind of a "Green Lantern Corps" wearing uniforms similar to Jan and Jace, and having some modified version of Space Ghost's power bands?
I have no earthly idea, DR.  :)  I just see how the dude came about. Feel free to do your own interpretation...

No idea, really. Just that it left me with more of a general impression of "after Space Ghost" than "before Space Ghost". Like this group (the "Space Force" or whatever) seemed more "inspired by" than the other way around. Hope the Galaxy Trio (which always seemed to me to be a pretty straight 50/50 hybrid of the Fantastic Four and the Legion of Super-Heroes) is in the next issue.
Interesting point, though I rather thought it was straightforward. Space Ghost was a byproduct of fighting evil in honor of his departed colleagues and friends....

DeCarlo Rules

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Quote from: SAGG on May 22, 2016, 11:20:51 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 05:37:19 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 22, 2016, 05:22:44 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 03:55:31 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes.

So how do you interpret the scene where there's kind of a "Green Lantern Corps" wearing uniforms similar to Jan and Jace, and having some modified version of Space Ghost's power bands?
I have no earthly idea, DR.  :)  I just see how the dude came about. Feel free to do your own interpretation...

No idea, really. Just that it left me with more of a general impression of "after Space Ghost" than "before Space Ghost". Like this group (the "Space Force" or whatever) seemed more "inspired by" than the other way around. Hope the Galaxy Trio (which always seemed to me to be a pretty straight 50/50 hybrid of the Fantastic Four and the Legion of Super-Heroes) is in the next issue.
Interesting point, though I rather thought it was straightforward. Space Ghost was a byproduct of fighting evil in honor of his departed colleagues and friends....

Well, the thing that doesn't make sense about that is that for Space Ghost to be a tech-powered superhero his technology has to be far advanced over the normal level of tech generally available, and unique. His power bands and inviso-belt can't be based on previously existing known technology that was available to groups like the Space Force, or he doesn't have enough of a technological edge over anyone else to be "super".

It's the 'trickle-down technology' concept. A parallel would be Tony Stark sharing his tech with allies who have a similar mission, like S.H.I.E.L.D. -- the Iron Man armor is bleeding-edge tech (which is what gives him an advantage and makes him a superhero), but Stark shares a more basic version of his tech with S.H.I.E.L.D. in the form of the Guardsman armor, which is a simplified, earlier-generation version of some of his older Iron Man armors designed to be manufactured in quantity and within S.H.I.E.L.D.'s armory budget.

It can be assumed that Space Ghost is training Jan and Jace as apprentice heroes to carry on his mission, and the fact that the Space Force has a similar uniform design to Jan & Jace's costumes seems to indicate the idea of a larger group carrying on those same mission goals -- like Space Ghost somehow created or inspired that group to carry on or expand on his mission of protecting the universe, and shared his technology with them or passed it down to them somehow.

SAGG

It's possible Space Ghost has a keen scientific mind that's helping him improve his technology. I seem to recall one of the original episodes saying an old friend of his, a scientist, was kidnapped, and he went to rescue him. I'll have to check on that....

daren

I'll look at Space Ghost, I think it's on youtube.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: SAGG on May 23, 2016, 03:21:46 AM
It's possible Space Ghost has a keen scientific mind that's helping him improve his technology. I seem to recall one of the original episodes saying an old friend of his, a scientist, was kidnapped, and he went to rescue him. I'll have to check on that....

Don't bother. Upon further reflection, the confusion stems from the fact that this is a story dealing with the "Hanna-Barbera Multiverse", so (apart from the scenes taking place on Jonny Quest's Earth) you don't get any contextual reference for where and when the scenes with the Space Force are taking place.

In thinking about it, another wrinkle I failed to consider (in light your 'Space Ghost origin' theory) is the possibility that Space Ghost is the last survivor of not only the Space Force, but of his entire universe -- he's a "ghost" from a destroyed universe that no longer exists. That would mean that the technology he brings with him from that alternate universe makes it both far advanced and totally unique in the universe he now finds himself in (Jonny Quest's universe). The resemblance of Jan and Jace's uniforms to those of the now-deceased Space Force would then become an homage by Space Ghost to his former band of brothers, making J&J the first new recruits by Space Ghost in a long-range plan to recreate the Space Force in the new universe he now finds himself in.

I'll have to go back and re-read it again with that theory in mind and see if it seems to fit.

PTF

DC did a comic explaining the origin of Space Ghost. If I remember it right he was a space police officer who got promoted to a special force (think shadow ops) and they were corrupt. He was going to expose them until they found out. They killed his pregnant wife and left him for dead on an alien world.

The world turns out to be Ghost Planet and an alien who created weapons is looking for redemption after his inventions were used for war. He takes a chance on him and gives him some gear. But Space Ghost wants revenge and goes after the people who left him for dead.

I remember kid Jane and Jayce who lost their family after Zorak invaded their world. There's a main Zorak and drones and the main one dies, his consciousness goes into a drone and becomes the new Zorak. Anyway, Space Ghost has to decide if he wants revenge or justice. Get the guy who ruined his life or save the world and the kids he bonded with.

He becomes the hero we're used to (no not the talk show host). Stops Zorak, turns the bad guy into the police, and then goes back to the barren planet to prepare to become a full hero and train Jane and Jayce.

I think his real name might have been Tad or Chad.

DeCarlo Rules

Yeah, I wondered about whether they'd reference that. It appears not, they seem to be ignoring it and just starting from scratch again.

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