...A comic book by DC Comics, just came out. I like the beginning so far. It's using the classic 1960's Hanna-Barbera superheroes, fused with Jonny Quest. Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes. I figured some of you, particularly DeCarlo Rules, would get a kick out of it, if you don't know already. Something really big is happening, and it's quite nasty, it seems....
Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
...A comic book by DC Comics, just came out. I like the beginning so far. It's using the classic 1960's Hanna-Barbera superheroes, fused with Jonny Quest. Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes. I figured some of you, particularly DeCarlo Rules, would get a kick out of it, if you don't know already. Something really big is happening, and it's quite nasty, it seems....
Jeff Parker also wrote the
Batman '66 series, and a rebooted (updated for present day)
Flash Gordon for Dynamite (along with artist Evan Shaner, who draws Future Quest).
Future Quest definitely has the same feel as the latter title.
I was surprised and delighted by the multi-page sequence in FQ (
I just mentally pronounced that, and it doesn't sound right) illustrated by Steve Rude, whom I consider to be a modern day master of comic book art (and whose love for the HB adventure characters, Space Ghost in particular, is well known). I assume he won't be a regular contributor to the series, but it was nice to see him get something in there.
I'm wondering if this series will incorporate background information about Space Ghost that was part of the 2005 miniseries written by Joe Kelly and published by DC giving an origin for that character, which was DC's last attempt to do something with the HB heroes. I'm not sure I recognized the same "origin story" in this issue that you did. On a sad note, Tundro of the Herculoids DIED in the first issue. :'( Killing off characters (even if they are super-alien-animals) already?
I'm also quite curious to see the Wacky Races re-interpreted in the
Mad Max/Death Race 2000 mode as
Wacky Raceland.
The Flintstones seems so much like the Archie reboot that it's a little bizarre. Not really digging the
Scooby-Doo Apocalypse concept at all -- too
Afterlife With Archie...?
It looks good but I only know Space Ghost from Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
Too bad, the original was pretty good (as I remember it at least) ... c2c not so much ...
Quote from: daren on May 21, 2016, 07:58:42 PM
It looks good but I only know Space Ghost from Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
Then I strongly suggest that you find the original Space Ghost cartoons. :) You'll love them...
Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes.
So how do you interpret the scene where there's kind of a "Green Lantern Corps" wearing uniforms similar to Jan and Jace, and having some modified version of Space Ghost's power bands?
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 03:55:31 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes.
So how do you interpret the scene where there's kind of a "Green Lantern Corps" wearing uniforms similar to Jan and Jace, and having some modified version of Space Ghost's power bands?
I have no earthly idea, DR. :) I just see how the dude came about. Feel free to do your own interpretation...
Quote from: SAGG on May 22, 2016, 05:22:44 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 03:55:31 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes.
So how do you interpret the scene where there's kind of a "Green Lantern Corps" wearing uniforms similar to Jan and Jace, and having some modified version of Space Ghost's power bands?
I have no earthly idea, DR. :) I just see how the dude came about. Feel free to do your own interpretation...
No idea, really. Just that it left me with more of a general impression of "after Space Ghost" than "before Space Ghost". Like this group (the "Space Force" or whatever) seemed more "inspired by" than the other way around. Hope the Galaxy Trio (which always seemed to me to be a pretty straight 50/50 hybrid of the Fantastic Four and the Legion of Super-Heroes) is in the next issue.
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 05:37:19 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 22, 2016, 05:22:44 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 03:55:31 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes.
So how do you interpret the scene where there's kind of a "Green Lantern Corps" wearing uniforms similar to Jan and Jace, and having some modified version of Space Ghost's power bands?
I have no earthly idea, DR. :) I just see how the dude came about. Feel free to do your own interpretation...
No idea, really. Just that it left me with more of a general impression of "after Space Ghost" than "before Space Ghost". Like this group (the "Space Force" or whatever) seemed more "inspired by" than the other way around. Hope the Galaxy Trio (which always seemed to me to be a pretty straight 50/50 hybrid of the Fantastic Four and the Legion of Super-Heroes) is in the next issue.
Interesting point, though I rather thought it was straightforward. Space Ghost was a byproduct of fighting evil in honor of his departed colleagues and friends....
Quote from: SAGG on May 22, 2016, 11:20:51 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 05:37:19 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 22, 2016, 05:22:44 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 22, 2016, 03:55:31 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2016, 11:20:06 PM
Without giving too much of a spoiler, there's an origin of one of the heroes.
So how do you interpret the scene where there's kind of a "Green Lantern Corps" wearing uniforms similar to Jan and Jace, and having some modified version of Space Ghost's power bands?
I have no earthly idea, DR. :) I just see how the dude came about. Feel free to do your own interpretation...
No idea, really. Just that it left me with more of a general impression of "after Space Ghost" than "before Space Ghost". Like this group (the "Space Force" or whatever) seemed more "inspired by" than the other way around. Hope the Galaxy Trio (which always seemed to me to be a pretty straight 50/50 hybrid of the Fantastic Four and the Legion of Super-Heroes) is in the next issue.
Interesting point, though I rather thought it was straightforward. Space Ghost was a byproduct of fighting evil in honor of his departed colleagues and friends....
Well, the thing that doesn't make sense about that is that for Space Ghost to be a tech-powered superhero his technology has to be far advanced over the normal level of tech generally available, and unique. His power bands and inviso-belt can't be based on previously existing known technology that was available to groups like the Space Force, or he doesn't have enough of a technological edge over anyone else to be "super".
It's the 'trickle-down technology' concept. A parallel would be Tony Stark sharing his tech with allies who have a similar mission, like S.H.I.E.L.D. -- the Iron Man armor is bleeding-edge tech (which is what gives him an advantage and makes him a
superhero), but Stark shares a more basic version of his tech with S.H.I.E.L.D. in the form of the Guardsman armor, which is a simplified, earlier-generation version of some of his older Iron Man armors designed to be manufactured in quantity and within S.H.I.E.L.D.'s armory budget.
It can be assumed that Space Ghost is training Jan and Jace as apprentice heroes to carry on his mission, and the fact that the Space Force has a similar uniform design to Jan & Jace's costumes seems to indicate the idea of a larger group carrying on those same mission goals -- like Space Ghost somehow created or inspired that group to carry on or expand on his mission of protecting the universe, and shared his technology with them or passed it down to them somehow.
It's possible Space Ghost has a keen scientific mind that's helping him improve his technology. I seem to recall one of the original episodes saying an old friend of his, a scientist, was kidnapped, and he went to rescue him. I'll have to check on that....
I'll look at Space Ghost, I think it's on youtube.
Quote from: SAGG on May 23, 2016, 03:21:46 AM
It's possible Space Ghost has a keen scientific mind that's helping him improve his technology. I seem to recall one of the original episodes saying an old friend of his, a scientist, was kidnapped, and he went to rescue him. I'll have to check on that....
Don't bother. Upon further reflection, the confusion stems from the fact that this is a story dealing with the "Hanna-Barbera Multiverse", so (apart from the scenes taking place on Jonny Quest's Earth) you don't get any contextual reference for where and when the scenes with the Space Force are taking place.
In thinking about it, another wrinkle I failed to consider (in light your 'Space Ghost origin' theory) is the possibility that Space Ghost is the last survivor of not only the Space Force, but of his entire universe -- he's a "ghost" from a destroyed universe that no longer exists. That would mean that the technology he brings with him from that alternate universe makes it both far advanced and totally unique in the universe he now finds himself in (Jonny Quest's universe). The resemblance of Jan and Jace's uniforms to those of the now-deceased Space Force would then become an homage by Space Ghost to his former band of brothers, making J&J the first new recruits by Space Ghost in a long-range plan to recreate the Space Force in the new universe he now finds himself in.
I'll have to go back and re-read it again with that theory in mind and see if it seems to fit.
DC did a comic explaining the origin of Space Ghost. If I remember it right he was a space police officer who got promoted to a special force (think shadow ops) and they were corrupt. He was going to expose them until they found out. They killed his pregnant wife and left him for dead on an alien world.
The world turns out to be Ghost Planet and an alien who created weapons is looking for redemption after his inventions were used for war. He takes a chance on him and gives him some gear. But Space Ghost wants revenge and goes after the people who left him for dead.
I remember kid Jane and Jayce who lost their family after Zorak invaded their world. There's a main Zorak and drones and the main one dies, his consciousness goes into a drone and becomes the new Zorak. Anyway, Space Ghost has to decide if he wants revenge or justice. Get the guy who ruined his life or save the world and the kids he bonded with.
He becomes the hero we're used to (no not the talk show host). Stops Zorak, turns the bad guy into the police, and then goes back to the barren planet to prepare to become a full hero and train Jane and Jayce.
I think his real name might have been Tad or Chad.
Yeah, I wondered about whether they'd reference that. It appears not, they seem to be ignoring it and just starting from scratch again.
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 23, 2016, 09:19:09 PM
Yeah, I wondered about whether they'd reference that. It appears not, they seem to be ignoring it and just starting from scratch again.
Wonderful. Yet ANOTHER reboot....
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Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 23, 2016, 09:19:09 PM
Yeah, I wondered about whether they'd reference that. It appears not, they seem to be ignoring it and just starting from scratch again.
Wonderful. Yet ANOTHER reboot....
To the extent that they're only rebooting 6 issues of a previous comic. The Joe Kelly/Ariel Olivetti SPACE GHOST miniseries didn't make much of an impact, and was quickly forgotten. Can't say I cared all that much for Kelly's take on the character, and it's not like his origin was canon or anything. Best that they start over from the beginning, especially as they need to incorporate a number of different series into a new universe.
Revisiting this topic. I actually like seeing the (current) origins of these characters by putting them all together or tying them together somehow, and their being affected by the same sinister threat. Anybody else getting this comic?
Quote from: SAGG on September 02, 2016, 06:06:51 PM
Revisiting this topic. I actually like seeing the (current) origins of these characters by putting them all together or tying them together somehow, and their being affected by the same sinister threat. Anybody else getting this comic?
It's my favorite DC comic right now. I can't believe we got an entire Birdman story by Steve Rude in issue #3!
Future Quest #6 came out today, and look who did one of the covers! Dan Parent!:
http://www.archiefans.com/index.php?media/item/parentfuturequest.1435/
Pretty cool, I thought. It's really interesting when I see a current (or unfortunately former) Archie artist doing something else outside of Archie itself....
Quote from: SAGG on October 26, 2016, 06:38:25 PM
Future Quest #6 came out today, and look who did one of the covers! Dan Parent!:
http://www.archiefans.com/index.php?media/item/parentfuturequest.1435/ (http://www.archiefans.com/index.php?media/item/parentfuturequest.1435/)
Pretty cool, I thought. It's really interesting when I see a current (or unfortunately former) Archie artist doing something else outside of Archie itself....
Good for Dan. I'm in the same camp that I like seeing the traditional style Archie artists drawing different sorts of characters. I still like the Stan Goldberg variant of FF #1 from several years ago.
Quote from: steveinthecity on October 26, 2016, 09:56:32 PM
Quote from: SAGG on October 26, 2016, 06:38:25 PM
Future Quest #6 came out today, and look who did one of the covers! Dan Parent!:
http://www.archiefans.com/index.php?media/item/parentfuturequest.1435/ (http://www.archiefans.com/index.php?media/item/parentfuturequest.1435/)
Pretty cool, I thought. It's really interesting when I see a current (or unfortunately former) Archie artist doing something else outside of Archie itself....
Good for Dan. I'm in the same camp that I like seeing the traditional style Archie artists drawing different sorts of characters. I still like the Stan Goldberg variant of FF #1 from several years ago.
Actually, Dan did the variant covers for all of the new Hanna-Barbera DC titles this month, in addition to FUTURE QUEST #6 -- FLINTSTONES #4, SCOOBY APOCALYPSE #6, and WACKY RACELAND #5. The regular SCOOBY-DOO and SCOOBY-DOO TEAM UP titles aren't considered part of that group, and have no variant covers offered.
He also recently did RI (retailer incentive) variant covers for Boom Studios' GOLDIE VANCE and MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGERS: PINK.
Fernando Ruiz did some variant covers for Dynamite Entertainment's first issue of KISS, and possibly some others.
Both Dan and Fernando did variant covers for their own DIE KITTY DIE #1 from Chapterhouse Comics, as well as variants for Chapterhouse's other ongoing titles this month.
The above-mentioned are all very recent. Last year Dan and Fernando did a bunch of alternate covers for IDW for their "Archie month" variant theme.
At ACP, Dan P. did a variant cover for Gisele Lagace's ARCHIE MEETS RAMONES #1, and Gisele did a variant for the New Riverdale JOSIE #1.
FUTURE QUEST #12 is the final issue of the series. Guess we'll have to wait and see whether there will be any other series that spin out of the events that created "the Hanna-Barbera Universe", but I suspect not.
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 02, 2017, 04:36:08 AM
FUTURE QUEST #12 is the final issue of the series. Guess we'll have to wait and see whether there will be any other series that spin out of the events that created "the Hanna-Barbera Universe", but I suspect not.
No, no, NO!! >:( How stupid is this?! That's a great series!! Idiots.... :tickedoff:
Quote from: SAGG on February 02, 2017, 10:24:04 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 02, 2017, 04:36:08 AM
FUTURE QUEST #12 is the final issue of the series. Guess we'll have to wait and see whether there will be any other series that spin out of the events that created "the Hanna-Barbera Universe", but I suspect not.
No, no, NO!! >:( How stupid is this?! That's a great series!! Idiots.... :tickedoff:
Well, let's wait and see how it ends. Maybe the cast is just too big for an ongoing series, and it would seem forced to have those characters (apart from the common world-threatening menace uniting them right now) constantly bumping into each other. Up to now FUTURE QUEST has all been one long story (apart from a few flashback sequences), so maybe it was designed that way. Think of Future Quest as not only an introduction (or REintroduction) to these characters, but also as a "Crisis" in DC terms. So maybe they could launch other series out of it -- JONNY QUEST, SPACE GHOST, FRANKENSTEIN JR., HERCULOIDS, BIRDMAN... who knows. We may even see some new #1 issue solicited in the March Previews catalog, before issue #12 is actually out, or maybe the end of issue #12 gives some hint of more to come with some of the teams or solo heroes. Maybe the plan is even to give them ALL 12 issues each, one following after another.
SCOOBY APOCALYPSE #12 was also solicited in the February Previews, but it didn't say "Final Issue". That could be because the nature of that series doesn't represent an origin story for a whole universe of characters (haven't read it, to be honest). Scooby Apocalypse doesn't seem to be selling any better than Future Quest, from what I can tell. In fact, at my LCS, both Future Quest and Flintstones have more subscribers than Scooby Apocalypse. At first I just thought it was another series ending because of low sales, but the more I think about it, it's not really doing that bad. They have more modest expectations for these comics than they do for a mainline DC Universe title. The January Previews had this weird event-month thing with a bunch of one-shots teaming up DC heroes with H-B characters.
By the way, Frankenstein Jr. and the Impossibles guest-star in SCOOBY-DOO TEAM UP #22. You did get #20, with Space Ghost, right?
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on October 27, 2016, 06:41:37 AM
Fernando Ruiz did some variant covers for Dynamite Entertainment's first issue of KISS, and possibly some others.
Currently, I'm writing and drawing Animal Jam for Dynamite Comics. This past year I've also written and drawn a couple of stories for Boo: The World's Cutest Dog also for Dynamite.
Keep up with my latest projects and appearances over at my site: Fernandoruizeverybody.com
http://fernandoruizeverybody.com/inked-page-from-die-kitty-die-hollywood-or-bust-1/
Here's more info on that DC/Hanna-Barbera event I mentioned in my previous post. Four team-up/crossover "Annual" one-shots (each has a cover price of $4.99 and is 48 pages) comprise the event, all of them slated to ship to comic shops on March 3, 2017:
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ADAM STRANGE FUTURE QUEST ANNUAL #1
(W) Marc Andreyko & Various (A) Steve Lieber, Phil Winslade (CA) Evan "Doc" Shaner
Variant cover art by Steve Lieber
After the events of the DEATH OF HAWKMAN miniseries, Adam Strange is blasted through multiple dimensions only to land on Earth! There, instead of super-powered beings and legendary crime fighters, he encounters a boy adventurer and his scientist father - and they're the only ones who can help him return home. Jonny Quest, Hadji, Dr. Quest and Race Bannon have a plan, but it's going to involve a dangerous trek through Dino Boy's Lost Valley of prehistoric threats! And in the backup feature starring Top Cat, breaking out of prison is challenging enough for a cat, but sometimes it means stumbling through a cosmic portal to planet Earth... and right into the hands of Batman!
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BOOSTER GOLD FLINTSTONES ANNUAL #1
(W) Mark Russell & Various (A) Rick Leonardi, Scott Hanna (CA) Michael Allred
Variant cover art by Dan Jurgens and Norm Rapmund
Welcome to the 25th century, where the Earth is a polluted post-industrial nightmare, most animals are extinct, and reptilian aliens are invading cities across the planet! In their time of need, the world's citizens turn to the time-traveling Booster Gold to save the day. To learn why these aliens are seeking revenge, Booster dives deep into the prehistoric past to see what happened the last time they hit the planet. In this bygone era, Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble must help Booster learn the truth and return to his own time armed with the information that will bring down the invaders - if Booster can convince them to help him. No problem - we all know how persuasive Booster can be, right? Right?! And in the backup feature starring The Jetsons, in a new twist on an old twist about our future, The Jetsons live in a world of robotics and gadgetry. But how does dying change when grandma's brain can be digitally imprinted onto a housecleaning robot?
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GREEN LANTERN SPACE GHOST ANNUAL #1
(W) James TynionIV & Various (A) Howard Chaykin, Ariel Olivetti (CA) Ariel Olivetti
Variant cover art by Doug Mahnke
Trapped in a strange rift in time, Green Lantern and Space Ghost are forced to battle a variety of foes - and each other! And even if they manage to survive, they will be thrown into a world with no concept of interstellar travel - or even what an alien is! Stripped of their weapons by a xenophobic culture, the duo will have to battle to regain them - but what happens when Space Ghost dons the Emerald Ring and Hal Jordan put on the Power Bands? And in the backup feature, Ruff and Reddy were once the toast of nightclubs, variety shows, late night chat fests and Broadway. Learn how they became the comedic duo of yesterday... before they hit rock-bottom today!
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SUICIDE SQUAD BANANA SPLITS ANNUAL #1
(W) Antony Bedard, Mark Russell (A) Ben Caldwell, Dale Eaglesham (CA) Clyde Caldwell
Variant cover art by Ben Caldwell
"SUICIDE SPLITS"! Mistaken for metahumans, thrown in the bowels of Belle Reve, the animal rock band Banana Splits are recruited by Amanda Waller for a secret mission: to save the Suicide Squad! What follows is the weirdest team-up you never thought you'd see! How can Fleegle, Bingo, Drooper and Snorky stand up to Harley, Deadshot, Katana and Croc?! And in the backup feature, Snagglepuss is a Southern gothic playwright working with an ensemble cast of cultural figures, exploring an intensely creative time in the New York City theater scene of the 1950s...
Wild, man! Just wild! :2funny:
And this just in...
In their quest to leave no traditional property unrebooted, DC will follow up the DC/Hanna-Barbera crossovers with a series of DC/Looney Tunes crossover/reboots:
Jonah Hex Vs Yosemite Sam
Martian Manhunter Vs Marvin the Martian
Lobo Vs The Road Runner.
Batman Vs Elmer Fudd
I know this sounds like an April Fool's Day prank (too early, alas), but I assure you we have confirmation... BATMAN vs. Elmer Fudd??
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Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 17, 2017, 07:06:21 AM
And this just in...
In their quest to leave no traditional property unrebooted, DC will follow up the DC/Hanna-Barbera crossovers with a series of DC/Looney Tunes crossover/reboots:
Jonah Hex Vs Yosemite Sam
Martian Manhunter Vs Marvin the Martian
Lobo Vs The Road Runner.
Batman Vs Elmer Fudd
I know this sounds like an April Fool's Day prank (too early, alas), but I assure you we have confirmation... BATMAN vs. Elmer Fudd??
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Know what's REALLY scary? "Versus", not "and", or "teams up with". They're gonna FIGHT one another? :2funny: What's missing? Bugs Bunny vs. Superman? Lola Bunny vs. Wonder Woman? Speedy Gonzalez vs. Vibe?
Quote from: SAGG on February 18, 2017, 01:02:23 AMKnow what's REALLY scary? "Versus", not "and", or "teams up with". They're gonna FIGHT one another? :2funny: What's missing? Bugs Bunny vs. Superman?
Oh, no -- Bugs and Supes are both the
good guys. Marvin, Yosemite Sam, Lobo & Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd are all
bad guys.
Meanwhile, eighteen years ago (and now seeming like a timely candidate for a TP reprint collection) ...
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Toons will live. Toons will die. (Or at least, have anvils dropped on their heads.) Elmer Fudd gains the powers of Superman. Daffy becomes the Duck Knight Detective. And due the mischievous machinations of those extradimensional imps, Mxyzptlk and the Do-Do, there looms a
Cwisis on Infinite Eawths...
Written by Mark Evanier (who has plenty of experience with animated characters), penciled by Joe Staton, and inked by Tom Palmer & Mike "No Relation" DeCarlo.
I'm kind of intrigued by the Jonah vs. Yosemite idea. I'm also kind of, I don't know, embarrassed that I would find this interesting. This is an example of why I usually place the importance of writing over art. A great story could make this (or any of the examples) a "win". Al Jaffee could make this entertaining to a degree, but It's the writer that needs to be on point here imo.
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 18, 2017, 02:22:51 AM
Quote from: SAGG on February 18, 2017, 01:02:23 AMKnow what's REALLY scary? "Versus", not "and", or "teams up with". They're gonna FIGHT one another? :2funny: What's missing? Bugs Bunny vs. Superman?
Oh, no -- Bugs and Supes are both the good guys. Marvin, Yosemite Sam, Lobo & Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd are all bad guys.
Meanwhile, eighteen years ago (and now seeming like a timely candidate for a TP reprint collection) ...
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Toons will live. Toons will die. (Or at least, have anvils dropped on their heads.) Elmer Fudd gains the powers of Superman. Daffy becomes the Duck Knight Detective. And due the mischievous machinations of those extradimensional imps, Mxyzptlk and the Do-Do, there looms a Cwisis on Infinite Eawths...
Written by Mark Evanier (who has plenty of experience with animated characters), penciled by Joe Staton, and inked by Tom Palmer & Mike "No Relation" DeCarlo.
I remember this cover! :coolsmiley: It was crazy then, and it's crazy now....
Future Quest #10 had the heroes finally getting organized, as Space Ghost is conscious and recovered from his injuries, and he's able to provide the Quest team and InterNation agents with some valuable intel regarding Omnikron. What remains of the Herculoids (Tarra, Igoo, Zok, and Gleep) also arrived on Earth to join in the battle. We saw Tundro's demise in the first issue, and this issue it was mentioned that Gloop had also been absorbed into Omnikron. I have to admit I don't recall what happened to Zandor and Dorno -- are they still alive?
We also got to see, in this issue, the new Mightor meet his prehistoric predecessor via an accidental trip by Ty through the void, and the original Mightor gives him some tips on how to use the power-club. It's kind of surprising to find out that the original Mightor lived in the prehistoric past of Earth, since I always assumed he just lived on some other prehistoric world somewhere in the universe (if not an alternate-Earth timeline), since there are many strange things in Mightor's world (flying, flame-breathing dragons for one) that never existed in the past of our planet. In some ways Mightor's world just seemed a little like Amzot, the Herculoid's planet, but inhabited by more human (or humanoid) tribes of people.
That set me to wondering a whole bunch of things about the H-B Universe.
1. Why haven't Vapor Man, Gravity Girl, and Meteor Man taken a larger role in fighting Omnikron? You'd think the Galaxy Trio would be as much or more aware of the danger of Omnikron as Space Ghost, and being among the most powerful of all the H-B heroes, their particular talents could be very helpful in combatting this menace.
2. For that matter, what about Kid Comet, Astra, and Moleculad? Do they even exist in this universe? You'd think that a group named the Teen Force had something to do with the Space Force of which Space Ghost was once a member...
3. What about other H-B heroes conspicuously among the missing? Young Samson & Goliath, and Blue Falcon & Dynomutt? Will we ever see them? Admittedly Blue Falcon is a bit underpowered for this type of situation, but Race Bannon and Jade are doing all right in this crisis without any super powers.
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 22, 2017, 04:59:23 AM
Future Quest #10 had the heroes finally getting organized, as Space Ghost is conscious and recovered from his injuries, and he's able to provide the Quest team and InterNation agents with some valuable intel regarding Omnikron. What remains of the Herculoids (Tarra, Igoo, Zok, and Gleep) also arrived on Earth to join in the battle. We saw Tundro's demise in the first issue, and this issue it was mentioned that Gloop had also been absorbed into Omnikron. I have to admit I don't recall what happened to Zandor and Dorno -- are they still alive?
We also got to see, in this issue, the new Mightor meet his prehistoric predecessor via an accidental trip by Ty through the void, and the original Mightor gives him some tips on how to use the power-club. It's kind of surprising to find out that the original Mightor lived in the prehistoric past of Earth, since I always assumed he just lived on some other prehistoric world somewhere in the universe (if not an alternate-Earth timeline), since there are many strange things in Mightor's world (flying, flame-breathing dragons for one) that never existed in the past of our planet. In some ways Mightor's world just seemed a little like Amzot, the Herculoid's planet, but inhabited by more human (or humanoid) tribes of people.
That set me to wondering a whole bunch of things about the H-B Universe.
1. Why haven't Vapor Man, Gravity Girl, and Meteor Man taken a larger role in fighting Omnikron? You'd think the Galaxy Trio would be as much or more aware of the danger of Omnikron as Space Ghost, and being among the most powerful of all the H-B heroes, their particular talents could be very helpful in combatting this menace.
2. For that matter, what about Kid Comet, Astra, and Moleculad? Do they even exist in this universe? You'd think that a group named the Teen Force had something to do with the Space Force of which Space Ghost was once a member...
3. What about other H-B heroes conspicuously among the missing? Young Samson & Goliath, and Blue Falcon & Dynomutt? Will we ever see them? Admittedly Blue Falcon is a bit underpowered for this type of situation, but Race Bannon and Jade are doing all right in this crisis without any super powers.
Sorry about just responding, DR. Good question about the Galaxy Trio. Maybe the writers think they have enough characters, and the GT would be too much, or something. I would have liked to see them, though...
Spoiler Alert for the last issue:
DR, apparently the Galaxy Trio DID fight, but were lost. The same for Tundro from the Herculoids, and some others, apparently, though there's a baby Tundro that will replace the deceased one... :smitten:
Read it last Wednesday, but I guess I'll have to re-read it. Completely missed any Galaxy Trio appearance -- although I did catch the baby Tundro hatchling -- who knew Tundro was a female?
Also enjoyed the 4 crossover one-shots, but still waiting/hoping to see if there are any forthcoming spinoffs from FQ.
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 12, 2017, 02:34:07 AM
Read it last Wednesday, but I guess I'll have to re-read it. Completely missed any Galaxy Trio appearance -- although I did catch the baby Tundro hatchling -- who knew Tundro was a female?
Also enjoyed the 4 crossover one-shots, but still waiting/hoping to see if there are any forthcoming spinoffs from FQ.
Here's the scene. I believe they fought the creature "off-page", and lost:
Quote from: SAGG on May 12, 2017, 07:53:47 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 12, 2017, 02:34:07 AM
Read it last Wednesday, but I guess I'll have to re-read it. Completely missed any Galaxy Trio appearance -- although I did catch the baby Tundro hatchling -- who knew Tundro was a female?
Also enjoyed the 4 crossover one-shots, but still waiting/hoping to see if there are any forthcoming spinoffs from FQ.
Here's the scene. I believe they fought the creature "off-page", and lost:
Whatta cheat. Not only left them out of the story, but he just HAD to stick in that one panel mentioning them as dead, to prevent anyone else from using them in future stories. :tickedoff:
Things I wanted to see in future H-B Universe comics:
Galaxy Trio teaming with Space Ghost/Jan & Jace
Galaxy Trio teaming with the Herculoids
Galaxy Trio teaming with Teen Force
Teen Force teaming with Jan & Jace
Jan & Jace teaming with Samson & Goliath
The Impossibles teaming with Teen Force
... and many other possibilities.
Neither the Teen Force nor Samson & Goliath were shown in FQ (or other characters like the Blue Falcon & Dynomutt), but that doesn't mean they couldn't have appeared in some future story, or even (somehow) Shazzan or the Arabian Knights. Why reboot a universe by killing characters off right from the start? If Jeff Parker didn't like/want to use any of those other H-B characters, well okay then, don't use them. But don't kill them off out of spite just because you don't like them. That's just being petty.
It probably isn't going to make any difference to anyone that Tundro gets replaced by Tundro-II, but I forgot already... whatever happened to Zandor and Dorno? Dead already too?
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 13, 2017, 03:27:51 AM
Quote from: SAGG on May 12, 2017, 07:53:47 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 12, 2017, 02:34:07 AM
Read it last Wednesday, but I guess I'll have to re-read it. Completely missed any Galaxy Trio appearance -- although I did catch the baby Tundro hatchling -- who knew Tundro was a female?
Also enjoyed the 4 crossover one-shots, but still waiting/hoping to see if there are any forthcoming spinoffs from FQ.
Here's the scene. I believe they fought the creature "off-page", and lost:
Whatta cheat. Not only left them out of the story, but he just HAD to stick in that one panel mentioning them as dead, to prevent anyone else from using them in future stories. :tickedoff:
Things I wanted to see in future H-B Universe comics:
Galaxy Trio teaming with Space Ghost/Jan & Jace
Galaxy Trio teaming with the Herculoids
Galaxy Trio teaming with Teen Force
Teen Force teaming with Jan & Jace
Jan & Jace teaming with Samson & Goliath
The Impossibles teaming with Teen Force
... and many other possibilities.
Neither the Teen Force nor Samson & Goliath were shown in FQ (or other characters like the Blue Falcon & Dynomutt), but that doesn't mean they couldn't have appeared in some future story, or even (somehow) Shazzan or the Arabian Knights. Why reboot a universe by killing characters off right from the start? If Jeff Parker didn't like/want to use any of those other H-B characters, well okay then, don't use them. But don't kill them off out of spite just because you don't like them. That's just being petty.
It probably isn't going to make any difference to anyone that Tundro gets replaced by Tundro-II, but I forgot already... whatever happened to Zandor and Dorno? Dead already too?
Really? :o You didn't see them near the end of the story? Zandor and Dorno welcomed the rest of the surviving Herculoids when they returned from Earth, and Dorno was the one who pointed out the new baby Tundro that was hatching out of the egg...
Quote from: SAGG on May 13, 2017, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 13, 2017, 03:27:51 AM
It probably isn't going to make any difference to anyone that Tundro gets replaced by Tundro-II, but I forgot already... whatever happened to Zandor and Dorno? Dead already too?
Really? :o You didn't see them near the end of the story? Zandor and Dorno welcomed the rest of the surviving Herculoids when they returned from Earth...
A lot of things about the story just didn't seem clear to me, like why Tarra would be off on her own on Earth, without Zandor's help (so maybe I'd had it in mind a while ago that Zandor and Dorno must have become victims of Omnikron), plus it seemed like the Herculoids got involved pretty late in the game (apart from that flashback origin story).
That seems to be one of the big problems with a story that has so many characters in it. It's hard to remember everything that happens to every single one of them, because you see so little panel-time with any individual character. I guess I should probably try to find the time to re-read the whole thing from the beginning. The earliest issues in particular were kind of hard to follow everything going on. I seem to get a lot more out of a continued story now by reading it in the trade collection, but I just didn't have the patience to wait for one in this case.
This was almost like one of those vast Marvel or DC crossover stories, but normally they'd expect the readers of those stories to be familiar with all of the characters' current situations going into it. It might have been easier for DC to build-up into something like FQ by setting up three or four miniseries beforehand featuring the more popular characters first, just to reintroduce them as individual concepts being rebooted. They probably could have held back on the Quest team (those being the most familiar, and the least changed in the reboot) to debut them in the FQ maxiseries, then added in all of the other H-B super-adventure characters not covered in the earlier miniseries.
The last time I can remember something "event-like" like this series, that introduced so
many rebooted versions of old characters was Dynamite's
Project Superpowers. IIRC, I had some of the same problems following the thread of what was going on in Parker's
Kings Watch, another Dynamite series that tried to do the same thing by way of a crossover event rebooting the King Features adventure-strip characters Flash Gordon (and Dale and Zarkov), The Phantom, and Mandrake the Magician & Lothar.
I've just re-read FUTURE QUEST #1-12. The story made a lot more sense the second time around, and I was able to pay attention to a lot of things I missed when I originally read it issue-by-issue over the course of a year. Not understanding the nature of the threat or how Omnikron worked made the story at first read like a lot of disjointed scenes where the focus kept changing (and was interrupted by a few flashbacks) and characters disappeared for issues, only to reappear later on, and it was hard to remember what they had all been doing before. There were a lot of things I liked, but also a lot of things I disliked about it.
Things I Disliked:
1. Too many artists were involved in this for a 12-issue story. I would have much preferred if they'd kept on as they started in the early issues, with Evan Shaner drawing the main part of the story, and Steve Rude drawing flashback sequences that focused on specific characters. In reality Steve Rude only contributed interior art for issues #1 and 3, and Shaner only contributed interior pages to issues 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11 and 12 -- and for most of these, he didn't draw the entire issue. Ron Randall was the most consistent of the fill-in artists, contributing to issues 2, 4, 7, 9, and 10. Ariel Olivetti drew the entirety of issue #8 by himself. Olivetti is not a bad artist, but his work is so different-looking it makes this chapter stand out like a sore thumb. But there were at least half-a-dozen other artists contributing story pages in different issues (and most of those were not flashback stories like Aaron Lopresti's and Karl Kesel's in issue #3).
2. The new version of Mightor just didn't work for me. Taking that character out of his primitive setting makes him kind of pointless. I would have preferred if they'd kept the original Mightor as a character, and just had him existing on a primitive planet somewhere in the universe -- either that, or make Mightor's world and Dino Boy's Lost Land essentially the same place, more like a vortex into a primitive pocket universe with dinosaurs and other monsters. Mightor's costume change didn't work for meat all, nor replacing the flying, flame-breathing dragon Tog with Snag, a giant sabretooth cat. I was reminded of both Marvel's Ka-Zar, and H-B's own Young Samson and Goliath (who frankly would have worked better in this story for characters if they wanted a newer, more ethnically-diverse version of an old character).
3. I will never forgive Jeff Parker for introducing the Galaxy Trio for a couple of pages in issue #2, only to kill them off immediately. :tickedoff:
4. Turning Frankenstein Jr. into a robot with a pilot control cabin. Too cliched, and it makes him too much like any of the Japanese giant robot heroes.
5. Falcon-7 and Big D both turning out not to be a real persons, but false-front personas for Deva Sumadi. Too little background info on Deva Sumadi and how she created Inter-Nation given, too -- doesn't feel believable.
6. Too little seen of Birdman's partner Avenger, and Blip could have been used more.
Things I Liked:
1. Some background given on Space Ghost. He's Captain Kyr of Space Force Section 90, and the Space Force is kind of like the Green Lantern Corps, with higher-ranking officers being entrusted with a Power Band similar to the GLC's Power Ring. He's the last 'ghost' of the Space Force after they were all wiped out by Omnikron, and is training Jan and Jace to begin rebuilding the Space Force.
2. Some background (but not too much) given to Birdman's identity of Ray Randall, as an archaeologist, but also somewhat of a general scientist, and defining his exact relationship as an agent of Inter-Nation. Hopefully more of his background and origin would be explained in a series of his own.
3. Working out a background relationship for Dr. Quest, Dr. Zin, and Dr. Conroy, as well as explaining what happened to Jonny's mother.
4. NOT changing the Quest Team, Space Ghost Team, Birdman, or the Herculoids too much. Keeping the original Phantom Cruiser design.
5. Good origin story for the Impossibles. The setup for how they acquired their powers also allows for future appearance of super-villains in the H-B universe. I didn't mind the addition of the new fourth (and female) member, Cobalt, although her codename could have been better, more in keeping with the other Impossibles' codenames. Magnetic powers are sort of overused for comics characters, so some kind of body-morphing powers (again in keeping with the original trio's powers) would have been better.
6. How Birdman's traditional foes F.E.A.R. were worked into the story in a good way.
7. The robot spiders being a creation of Dr. Kim-Conroy, and being copied by Dr. Zin to be used for nefarious purposes.
8. Small cameo appearances of Shazzan and Brak.
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 18, 2017, 02:22:51 AM
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Oh, no -- Bugs and Supes are both the good guys. Marvin, Yosemite Sam, Lobo & Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd are all bad guys.
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I'd like to add that I liked the origin of Zandor and Tara with the machines taking over their planet, and they had to go to their twin planet, becoming deliberately anti-technological. Rats. I forgot which one was the jungle planet (Amzot?), and the technological advanced one (Quasar?). And I CANNOT believe Shazzan would lose. He's a genie. They have god-like powers. In fact, he'd wipe Omnicron into nothingness.
Hm. I can't seem to modify my last post. I wanted to add that I also liked Dr. Zin's turn against F.E.A.R. for his safety. He and Dr. Quest made a dynamite team when they work together....
Quote from: SAGG on May 22, 2017, 10:52:57 AM
I'd like to add that I liked the origin of Zandor and Tara with the machines taking over their planet, and they had to go to their twin planet, becoming deliberately anti-technological. Rats. I forgot which one was the jungle planet (Amzot?), and the technological advanced one (Quasar?). And I CANNOT believe Shazzan would lose. He's a genie. They have god-like powers. In fact, he'd wipe Omnicron into nothingness.
Shazzan has magic at his disposal, and magic can do anything. The importance of the Shazzan cameo is just in establishing that he exists in one of those universes which Omnikron's vortexes (or vortices) had access to (and presumably Mightor's power club as well). Which is more than you can say about Young Samson and Goliath, or Moby Dick, Tom and Tubb, who didn't even get a cameo (but all in all, still better than appearing on 3 pages and then getting killed, like the Galaxy Trio). And then there was the cameo of Brak, which hinted at the possibility that Omnikron may have originated as one of his evil experiments to create some kind of destructive creature (presumably to threaten other planets into submission)... except that I don't recall Brak being a scientist, more of a space-pirate. That sounds more like something that Creature King would cook up...
Zandor and Tarra were originally inhabitants of Quasar, before the planet was entirely taken over by robots -- a bit too reminiscent of the future of
The Terminator, for my tastes -- before fleeing to the primitive planet Amzot, whose indigenous lifeforms are genetically unique. It's true that the menaces Zandor and Tarra fought in the original H-B cartoon often used robots to carry out their dirty work, but the robots themselves were just tools, not the masters... but I've never been a big fan of the
"robots are inherently evil if left to their own devices, unless carefully made into slaves by using proper programming or limiting their intelligence potential" school of thought... Maybe Tarra should have brought Frankenstein Jr. back to Quasar with her to kick their metal butts.
One other thing that bugged me in the series is that after introducing Dino Boy (who's never actually called that, by the way) Todd Messick in an early issue, his parents go missing after the timestorm and he sets out to find them in the Lost Valley (with Ug the Caveman's help)... and then he's just totally forgotten about, and we never did see what happened to him.
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After the thrilling events of FUTURE QUEST, a new age of adventure begins! First up, Space Ghost and his young wards Jan and Jace team up with the Herculoids to rebuild the mighty Space Force. Will they rise again to become defenders of the galaxy? Or is there something lurking in the shadows ready to stop them for good?
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