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Cosmo

Dover Boys #2
« on: November 01, 2016, 03:19:03 AM »
I think I may have been hunting for a comic that might not exist. Was there ever a second issue of the Adventures of the Dover Boys #2 in 1950? Overstreet lists it, but I have never seen a copy for sale or a picture of the cover.

Has anyone come across this book or know if there is no such beast?

steveinthecity

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2016, 11:20:35 AM »
Hi Cosmo, good question.  Approaching this from a different direction I'll ask what leads you to believe the book exists beyond the OPG listing? For instance, are there any original art pages existing, or references in old interviews? 
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Cosmo

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2016, 07:18:26 PM »
I have found no reference to it anywhere other than the Overstreet Guide. It lists #1 as September 1950 and #2 as 1950, but no month. I've tried to google images for Adventures of the Dover Boys and come up with a lot of photos of #1, but not a sign of a second issue.

My collection of Archie includes a lot of esoteric titles, but this may not be one that ever existed.

steveinthecity

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2016, 08:16:20 PM »
Thanks.  I was wondering what info you might have had.  I've seen OPG errors and it seems some must simply have carried over through the years from misunderstanding, misinformation, or the odd data entry mistake.

Possibly the culprit is the Candian version published by Bell, but that clearly has 'Archie Series No. 5' on the cover and has been indexed by gcd as a reprint and is also posted on the comicbookplus site (for anyone wanting to read it).  I went back to the 1975 Overstreet and found no mention of either #1 or #2, but then in 1981 OPG lists #1.  I'll try to look at later copies to see when #2 started to be listed.

Another MLJ/Archie related error is Overstreet's inclusion of Katy Keene Fashion Book #'s 11 & 12. The second series restarted with #13, so not sure where the earlier numbers came from.
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trb427

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2016, 11:38:28 AM »
I've heard that OPG has been known to include deliberate but obscure errors. It helps identify plagiarism when other price guides include the same errors.

trb427

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2016, 11:43:05 AM »
I've heard that OPG sometimes includes deliberate errors. It helps identify plagiarism when other price guides include the same errors.

steveinthecity

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2016, 11:04:41 PM »

I've heard that OPG has been known to include deliberate but obscure errors. It helps identify plagiarism when other price guides include the same errors.

I've heard that OPG sometimes includes deliberate errors. It helps identify plagiarism when other price guides include the same errors.
:)   Welcome to the boards!


While probably true, wouldn't it make more sense to insert a typo or err on a publication month than to include a completely ficticious comic?  The latter does a great disservice to the collecting community imo.
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Cosmo

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2016, 06:39:41 PM »
 Wow....sounds like a mystery for the Dover Boys:  The Case of the Phantom Issue.

I don't have a copy of #1, but wonder if there is any mention of the next exciting issue in that book.

steveinthecity

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2016, 07:43:16 PM »
Wow....sounds like a mystery for the Dover Boys:  The Case of the Phantom Issue.

I don't have a copy of #1, but wonder if there is any mention of the next exciting issue in that book.
The last panel asks readers to send a postcard if they'd like more stories from the Dover Boys. 


But...I found a four year old post from one of the DCM admins who listed having "Adventures Of Dover Boys #2" on order in a "VG-" condition from Terry O'Neill. Terry hasn't updated his website since April, but I'll try to contact both of them to find out what they know or remember about this.  Could be a dead end, but I'd like to know what Terry thought he was selling, if not #2.
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DeCarlo Rules

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2016, 12:31:23 AM »
Wow....sounds like a mystery for the Dover Boys:  The Case of the Phantom Issue.

I don't have a copy of #1, but wonder if there is any mention of the next exciting issue in that book.
The last panel asks readers to send a postcard if they'd like more stories from the Dover Boys. 


But...I found a four year old post from one of the DCM admins who listed having "Adventures Of Dover Boys #2" on order in a "VG-" condition from Terry O'Neill. Terry hasn't updated his website since April, but I'll try to contact both of them to find out what they know or remember about this.  Could be a dead end, but I'd like to know what Terry thought he was selling, if not #2.

Seems dubious at best. If I understand this correctly, nobody's claiming to have any information regarding the contents of AotDB#2, and nobody claims to have seen it or have a picture of it. Unless it's one of those weird cases where #2 is actually #1 (as in, the cover and indicia of the book say different things), so that somehow a single comic wound up being listed as two different comics.

irishmoxie

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2016, 02:04:49 AM »
This is like the case of Archie's TV Laugh Out #106.

steveinthecity

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2016, 07:00:11 PM »
Wow....sounds like a mystery for the Dover Boys:  The Case of the Phantom Issue.

I don't have a copy of #1, but wonder if there is any mention of the next exciting issue in that book.
The last panel asks readers to send a postcard if they'd like more stories from the Dover Boys. 


But...I found a four year old post from one of the DCM admins who listed having "Adventures Of Dover Boys #2" on order in a "VG-" condition from Terry O'Neill. Terry hasn't updated his website since April, but I'll try to contact both of them to find out what they know or remember about this.  Could be a dead end, but I'd like to know what Terry thought he was selling, if not #2.

Seems dubious at best. If I understand this correctly, nobody's claiming to have any information regarding the contents of AotDB#2, and nobody claims to have seen it or have a picture of it. Unless it's one of those weird cases where #2 is actually #1 (as in, the cover and indicia of the book say different things), so that somehow a single comic wound up being listed as two different comics.
"Could be a dead end' doesn't equate to dubious? Thank you for the reality check.  Also, a well known dealer of Golden Age Comics for 35+ years apparently selling a copy isn't "information" worthy of following up on?  Maybe it was like a Stuntman #3 or still unknown like the Harvey Flash Gordon last issue?  My interests in the hobby apparently don't jibe with those of the board.   :(


This is like the case of Archie's TV Laugh Out #106.
Yeah, don't understand where that came from.  What's annoying is Doug Sulipa still lists it as "scarce" and he's been a go-to dealer for obscure stuff no one cares about for decades, like Whitman bagged comics, 70's Richie Rich, etc.


An aside, Overstreet in 1985 does list AotDB #2, but I don't have 82-84 to see where it was first mentioned.
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DeCarlo Rules

Re: Dover Boys #2
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2016, 11:28:38 PM »
Wow....sounds like a mystery for the Dover Boys:  The Case of the Phantom Issue.

I don't have a copy of #1, but wonder if there is any mention of the next exciting issue in that book.
The last panel asks readers to send a postcard if they'd like more stories from the Dover Boys. 


But...I found a four year old post from one of the DCM admins who listed having "Adventures Of Dover Boys #2" on order in a "VG-" condition from Terry O'Neill. Terry hasn't updated his website since April, but I'll try to contact both of them to find out what they know or remember about this.  Could be a dead end, but I'd like to know what Terry thought he was selling, if not #2.

Seems dubious at best. If I understand this correctly, nobody's claiming to have any information regarding the contents of AotDB#2, and nobody claims to have seen it or have a picture of it. Unless it's one of those weird cases where #2 is actually #1 (as in, the cover and indicia of the book say different things), so that somehow a single comic wound up being listed as two different comics.
"Could be a dead end' doesn't equate to dubious? Thank you for the reality check.  Also, a well known dealer of Golden Age Comics for 35+ years apparently selling a copy isn't "information" worthy of following up on?  Maybe it was like a Stuntman #3 or still unknown like the Harvey Flash Gordon last issue?  My interests in the hobby apparently don't jibe with those of the board.   :(

Having something "on order" doesn't mean much to me. Simply that it's on your "wish list" and a retailer would be happy to be the one to sell it to you if a copy should happen to turn up.

 


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