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What comics & books do you like that not Archie related?

Started by BettyReggie, April 30, 2016, 10:34:12 PM

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daren

I have a complex about reading superhero stuff in public that I don't have about Archie, maybe Im just paranoid about looking like a loser fanboy and people associsate superhero comics with that instead of Archie stuff. And everyone knows superhero comics suck up all your time and money because of all the continuities so in additioin to looking like a loser you look like a loser in hock to Marvel and Image...I know it's stupid, everyone should just read what they want.  :)

Original Sin


DeCarlo Rules

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Quote from: irishmoxie on May 02, 2016, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 02, 2016, 01:41:41 PM
Quote from: Mr.Lodge on May 02, 2016, 01:29:02 AM
Anything not related to MARVEL or DC. Too much Superhero trash out there.  :buck2:

Get a life guys. Being outside when the sun shines is nice. Ever hear of a 'girl' or a 'date'?  ;D


Just one question. Why is it that you find it necessary to make yourself feel better by hating on other people for what they like?
Hate a publishing company if you must for what they publish, or a genre of fiction. If you don't like it, that's your choice. You should have stopped after your first 2 sentences, which is your legitimate opinion.
Hating on people whose entertainment choices you disagree with? NOT COOL.
My advice? Get outside with the sun shining in a very public place and read your Archie comic books there. Then see how many people you impress with how much cooler you are than readers of other types of comic books.


I have read Archie during a slow night at work and was made fun of a bit.  :-[  But mostly my male co-workers wanted to see how slutty/not slutty Betty and Veronica were dressed.


I do wish there were less superhero comics or rather a greater proportion of other types of stories. I think Image and IDW are the big players in that (though I like the smaller pubs even better) and hopefully there will be even more choice in the future. If people find out I like comics they always assume I know all the Marvel lore and start talking to me about the movies of which I have seen none.


I've read a ton of superhero comics over the years, but the percentage keeps going down. As soon as people learn you like comics, usually the next thing out their mouth is talking about the latest Batman or Marvel movie. My interest in those films began declining even earlier and more sharply than my interest in most of Marvel and DC's mainstream superhero titles. There are any number of those comics that it's easy for me to borrow issues just to see what's going on (if I had to pay for them, I wouldn't bother), but it's become a lot rarer for me to actually spend any money on them. There are maybe about a half-dozen at Marvel, maybe 2 at DC. But that's out of dozens of comics I read every month, from many different publishers and many different styles of art and genres of fiction.


I wish there were more "Archie-like" comics to pick from out there from all publishers, which is why it saddens me to see ACP itself publish fewer and fewer comics that are "Archie-like". I don't consider the New Riverdale comics "Archie-like" at all, while things like Die Kitty Die and Super Suckers are.

invisifan


DeCarlo Rules

About 5 to 10 years back, I really started getting into these hardcover books collecting older, classic newspaper comic strips. They're mainly published by about 5 different companies, so I'll list the ones I've been getting by publisher. (A few of these have 2 different series of books, one for dailies, and one for Sundays - like The Phantom and Buck Rogers.)

Dark Horse Comics:
TARZAN by Hal Foster
ALLEY OOP by V. T. Hamlin

Fantagraphics Books:
NANCY by Ernie Bushmiller
POPEYE by E.C. Segar (6 volumes)
Walt Disney's MICKEY MOUSE by Floyd Gottfredson

Hermes Press:
THE PHANTOM by Lee Falk
BUCK ROGERS in the 25th Century

IDW/Library of American Comics:
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN by Stan Lee & John Romita (2 volumes)
ARCHIE by Bob Montana
BATMAN
SUPERMAN
WONDER WOMAN (1 volume)
LI'L ABNER by Al Capp
MISS FURY by Tarpe Mills (2 volumes)
POPEYE by Bobby London (2 volumes)
TARZAN by Russ Manning (4 volumes)
STAR TREK (2 volumes)
SECRET AGENT X-9 by Dashiell Hammett & Alex Raymond (1 volume)
X-9: SECRET AGENT CORRIGAN by Archie Goodwin & Al Williamson (6 volumes)
Walt Disney's SILLY SYMPHONIES
Walt Disney's DONALD DUCK by Al Taliaferro

Titan Books:
TARZAN by Burne Hogarth
MANDRAKE THE MAGICIAN by Lee Falk & Phil Davis
FLASH GORDON (Sundays) by Alex Raymond
FLASH GORDON (Dailies) by Dan Barry

(various publishers):
LITTLE NEMO IN SLUMBERLAND by Winsor McKay


Archiecomicxfan215

#20
I love Peanuts, Garfield, Pearls Before Swine, Cathy, and Luann

Luann


Pearls Before Swine


Cathy

irishmoxie

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 03, 2016, 09:42:02 PM
About 5 to 10 years back, I really started getting into these hardcover books collecting older, classic newspaper comic strips. They're mainly published by about 5 different companies, so I'll list the ones I've been getting by publisher. (A few of these have 2 different series of books, one for dailies, and one for Sundays - like The Phantom and Buck Rogers.)

Dark Horse Comics:
TARZAN by Hal Foster
ALLEY OOP by V. T. Hamlin

Fantagraphics Books:
NANCY by Ernie Bushmiller
POPEYE by E.C. Segar (6 volumes)
Walt Disney's MICKEY MOUSE by Floyd Gottfredson

Hermes Press:
THE PHANTOM by Lee Falk
BUCK ROGERS in the 25th Century

IDW/Library of American Comics:
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN by Stan Lee & John Romita (2 volumes)
ARCHIE by Bob Montana
BATMAN
SUPERMAN
WONDER WOMAN (1 volume)
LI'L ABNER by Al Capp
MISS FURY by Tarpe Mills (2 volumes)
POPEYE by Bobby London (2 volumes)
TARZAN by Russ Manning (4 volumes)
STAR TREK (2 volumes)
SECRET AGENT X-9 by Dashiell Hammett & Alex Raymond (1 volume)
X-9: SECRET AGENT CORRIGAN by Archie Goodwin & Al Williamson (6 volumes)
Walt Disney's SILLY SYMPHONIES
Walt Disney's DONALD DUCK by Al Taliaferro

Titan Books:
TARZAN by Burne Hogarth
MANDRAKE THE MAGICIAN by Lee Falk & Phil Davis
FLASH GORDON (Sundays) by Alex Raymond
FLASH GORDON (Dailies) by Dan Barry

(various publishers):
LITTLE NEMO IN SLUMBERLAND by Winsor McKay


At around $40 a pop that's quite a collection. How are the Popeye books? What made you want to get all 6? Are they the same as the reprinting of the classic comic they are doing monthly now? I read it occasionally.

DeCarlo Rules

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Quote from: irishmoxie on May 04, 2016, 09:40:20 PM
At around $40 a pop that's quite a collection. How are the Popeye books? What made you want to get all 6? Are they the same as the reprinting of the classic comic they are doing monthly now? I read it occasionally.

There are three different series of Popeye hardcovers. The first (chronologically, in the history of the strip) is the 6-volume collection of books from Fantagraphics. Those reprint the entirety of original creator E.C. Segar's work on Popeye. Popeye was originally a quite minor character, introduced into the ongoing THIMBLE THEATER strip (whose main characters were Castor Oyl and his sister Olive, and her boyfriend Ham Gravy). He proved to be so popular with readers that he eventually took over the strip and became its star. Segar died relatively young (age 43) in 1938.

Bud Sagendorf was a teenager when he was recruited by Segar as an assistant, and later he became primarily responsible for the Popeye comic books, beginning in the late 1940s through the 1960s, while someone else took over the newspaper strip (eventually Sagendorf did get his shot at the more prestigious newspaper strip). It's the Sagendorf original Popeye comic books that are reprinted in IDW's ongoing Popeye Classic Comics (and those are later collected into hardcover volumes as well, published by IDW). I didn't even list those, although related, on my list (because they're not reprinted from the newspaper strips, but the comic books), but I highly recommend them. Comparing Segar's original Popeye strips with Sagendorf's comic books, you'll notice some differences. In between those two came the famous Fleischer Brothers Studio animated cartoon, which took some liberties with Segar's Popeye - and some of the animated cartoon elements were so popular and identified with the character that Sagendorf incorporated them into his comic book stories.

The final series of collected Popeye hardcovers are the much later strips by cartoonist Bobby London (these are collected in 2 volumes from IDW/LoAC in the horizontal format), done in the late 1980s. These update Popeye to make him topical (much like Archie, always keeping up with current trends) for the late 1980s - something that hadn't been done in the strip up to that time, and the results are quite funny, at least for anyone who can appreciate the topical references.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: Archiecomicxfan215 on May 04, 2016, 12:19:35 AM
I love Peanuts, Garfield, Pearls Before Swine, Cathy, and Luann

Luann


This is an example of where if you're coming into the strip with no prior knowledge of it, you're missing what's actually going on with the interaction of the three characters in this situation. If you don't know the existing relationships between Tiff and Quill, Tiff and Luann, and Quill and Luann going into it, you just have to scratch you head and ask what exactly just happened there? At a guess I'd say Tiff and Luann are rivals, but whether Quill is more than just friends with either of them I can't tell.

Archiecomicxfan215

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 05, 2016, 03:36:48 AM
Quote from: Archiecomicxfan215 on May 04, 2016, 12:19:35 AM
I love Peanuts, Garfield, Pearls Before Swine, Cathy, and Luann

Luann


This is an example of where if you're coming into the strip with no prior knowledge of it, you're missing what's actually going on with the interaction of the three characters in this situation. If you don't know the existing relationships between Tiff and Quill, Tiff and Luann, and Quill and Luann going into it, you just have to scratch you head and ask what exactly just happened there? At a guess I'd say Tiff and Luann are rivals, but whether Quill is more than just friends with either of them I can't tell.

Yes, Tiff and Luann don't like each other, they tried being friends once but it didnt work out. Quill ended up liking Luann a lot




DeCarlo Rules

#25
Quote from: Archiecomicxfan215 on May 05, 2016, 07:31:42 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 05, 2016, 03:36:48 AM
Quote from: Archiecomicxfan215 on May 04, 2016, 12:19:35 AM
I love Peanuts, Garfield, Pearls Before Swine, Cathy, and Luann

Luann


This is an example of where if you're coming into the strip with no prior knowledge of it, you're missing what's actually going on with the interaction of the three characters in this situation. If you don't know the existing relationships between Tiff and Quill, Tiff and Luann, and Quill and Luann going into it, you just have to scratch you head and ask what exactly just happened there? At a guess I'd say Tiff and Luann are rivals, but whether Quill is more than just friends with either of them I can't tell.

Yes, Tiff and Luann don't like each other, they tried being friends once but it didnt work out. Quill ended up liking Luann a lot






I seem to recall (vaguely) an earlier version of LUANN from years ago that looked quite different. Maybe it got a reboot somewhere along the way?


EDIT:
Ah, here it is. Not my imagination after all...




Doesn't even really seem like the same strip. The new version seems like an improvement though. Then I found this:

Not sure if that's the actual strip where it transitioned to the "New Look" (to borrow a phrase), or a flashback.

Then I found THESE strips. If he's throwing cosplaying into the mix, it makes me wonder if this didn't go from being a newspaper strip to a webcomic at some point?



Archiecomicxfan215

Same strip :). Apparently thats how Luann was drawn as a preteen/teenager in middle school/ early high school years

Currently Luann is a college student

BettyReggie

I'm going look up Luann to see if I can get from the Library.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: Archiecomicxfan215 on May 05, 2016, 10:48:34 AM
Same strip :) . Apparently thats how Luann was drawn as a preteen/teenager in middle school/ early high school years

Currently Luann is a college student


It's not just that she's gotten older and so the story material has changed according to her interests as a college student. The entire style and type of humor seems different (but the old strip seems pretty dated compared to newer newspaper comic strips). I was interested to see that the same cartoonist, Greg Evans, is drawing it now (and owns it, according to his copyright notice - I see he incorporated himself) as when it first started, so he obviously make the decision himself to give his creation a complete makeover. Does it still appear in any newspapers, or is that a thing of the past now?

DeCarlo Rules

#29
Here's a cartoon I found by accident on www.GoComics.com (Great for the discovery of new comic strips -- if you were stuck in the hospital for a month, you might have time to familiarize yourself with all of them.)


This one's from a strip called SCENES FROM A MULTIVERSE.



Here's another that's more typically my sense of humor from OFF THE MARK.



Here's another goodie... SAVAGE CHICKENS.

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