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What comics have you been reading?

Started by irishmoxie, March 30, 2016, 10:49:35 pm

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BettyReggie

I read Archie Volume #1 which has both Staples & Fish issues & Archie-The Married Life- Book #5 for 15 minutes each.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: GingerGal on April 27, 2016, 09:05:12 am
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 27, 2016, 08:25:55 am
Quote from: GingerGal on April 27, 2016, 07:36:01 am
So I also noticed with the Life With Archie comic I just read that they had one where where Archie Marries Veronica and one where Archie Mariies Betty. The story line is very similar in ways as it remains that Kevin is getting married, but in Archie Marries Veronica, Betty is with Reggie. It is kind of weird but I somehow like the two different angles.



I'm surprised you were able to figure out what was going on, without knowing too much about the story beforehand, given that this was an issue from the middle of the 37-issue run. I read the whole thing in trade paperback from beginning to end (6 volumes) and there were times I couldn't keep straight what was happening with each character in which story.
It was hard. They had this little description of the major relationships going on in the story before you got into the actual comic. That helped a little bit. I actually liked the Veronica comics I read much better though.



That reminds me, re-reading the entire The Married Life series has been on my to-do list forever. I want to read it through the second time by just reading "Archie Marries Betty" from beginning to end, and then "Archie Marries Veronica" from beginning to end - instead of reading one chapter of each alternating back and forth (the way it appeared in LIFE WITH ARCHIE). I wonder if it will make more, or less, sense that way.

GingerGal

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 27, 2016, 10:19:55 am
Quote from: GingerGal on April 27, 2016, 09:05:12 am
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 27, 2016, 08:25:55 am
Quote from: GingerGal on April 27, 2016, 07:36:01 am
So I also noticed with the Life With Archie comic I just read that they had one where where Archie Marries Veronica and one where Archie Mariies Betty. The story line is very similar in ways as it remains that Kevin is getting married, but in Archie Marries Veronica, Betty is with Reggie. It is kind of weird but I somehow like the two different angles.



I'm surprised you were able to figure out what was going on, without knowing too much about the story beforehand, given that this was an issue from the middle of the 37-issue run. I read the whole thing in trade paperback from beginning to end (6 volumes) and there were times I couldn't keep straight what was happening with each character in which story.
It was hard. They had this little description of the major relationships going on in the story before you got into the actual comic. That helped a little bit. I actually liked the Veronica comics I read much better though.



That reminds me, re-reading the entire The Married Life series has been on my to-do list forever. I want to read it through the second time by just reading "Archie Marries Betty" from beginning to end, and then "Archie Marries Veronica" from beginning to end - instead of reading one chapter of each alternating back and forth (the way it appeared in LIFE WITH ARCHIE). I wonder if it will make more, or less, sense that way.
I think that would be the much easier way to understand it reading it the way you said you were going to reread it. Wow that sentence didn't make much sense.  ;D

irishmoxie

I keep meaning to read Life With Archie for the first time but keep getting bogged down with how depressing it is and never finish the first volume.

GingerGal

The Archie Digital App came out with 3 more FREE comics so I am going to read Veronica #183. This one it looks like Veronica is going to be running for President.

GingerGal

Finished Veronica #183 and now I am going to read Veronica #199 where it looks like Veronica meets American President Obama.

DeCarlo Rules

April 28, 2016, 03:16:55 am #186 Last Edit: April 28, 2016, 05:12:21 am by DeCarlo Rules
Quote from: irishmoxie on April 27, 2016, 01:48:26 pm
I keep meaning to read Life With Archie for the first time but keep getting bogged down with how depressing it is and never finish the first volume.


For me, I think it helped that The Married Life was my (re-)introduction to Archie. The long and drawn out storyline, with its convoluted soap-opera subplots and dire circumstances, is very common in the ongoing Marvel and DC titles (where there's always some new lurking menace or personal problem looming in the background). LIFE WITH ARCHIE seemed designed purposefully to attract readers who were long used to that kind of storytelling in comics.

On the plus side, you knew that these depressing circumstances were merely what you get when you emerge from the relative safety and carefree years of high school into adult life, and, being sequestered off in 'possible future' timelines, there was no chance of any of that seeping into the traditional classic Archie stories which were strictly episodic sitcoms. Here they were able to explore some situations and cater to fanboy/fangirl fantasies that couldn't be dealt with in the traditional style stories, where real change can never be allowed to accumulate.

It seems that ACP's takeaway from the publishing experience of LWA was to reboot Archie in his high school days, and add the longer continuing storyline with subplot elements of teenage angst and soap-opera dramatics (whether that be the breakup of a longtime relationship, or an evil Principal taking over the school), so if it doesn't bother you there, I don't see why it would bother you to see them as adults with problems in a 'possible future' setting. If you had said you didn't care for it because there were too many science-fictional elements in the story, that I could probably understand.

Now, the problem I have with the New Riverdale titles isn't their mere existence, for an audience that wants to purchase an "Archie variant", in the same way that LIFE WITH ARCHIE or AFTERLIFE WITH ARCHIE are "variant Archies". For me, it's "eh... been there, done that". That's all well and good, if what they were doing was merely expanding the audience by adding new options for types of Archie products, variants that would appeal to different audience demographic segments. The problem I have with it is that every indication is that the intention of ACP is to seed and fertilize the NEW garden of New Riverdale titles, while they let the OLD garden of Classic Archie wither and die out. All the resources are being diverted over there, and away from Classic Archie. It's not an Archie alternative, it's an Archie replacement.

irishmoxie

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 28, 2016, 03:16:55 am
Quote from: irishmoxie on April 27, 2016, 01:48:26 pm
I keep meaning to read Life With Archie for the first time but keep getting bogged down with how depressing it is and never finish the first volume.


For me, I think it helped that The Married Life was my (re-)introduction to Archie. The long and drawn out storyline, with its convoluted soap-opera subplots and dire circumstances, is very common in the ongoing Marvel and DC titles (where there's always some new lurking menace or personal problem looming in the background). LIFE WITH ARCHIE seemed designed purposefully to attract readers who were long used to that kind of storytelling in comics.

On the plus side, you knew that these depressing circumstances were merely what you get when you emerge from the relative safety and carefree years of high school into adult life, and, being sequestered off in 'possible future' timelines, there was no chance of any of that seeping into the traditional classic Archie stories which were strictly episodic sitcoms. Here they were able to explore some situations and cater to fanboy/fangirl fantasies that couldn't be dealt with in the traditional style stories, where real change can never be allowed to accumulate.

It seems that ACP's takeaway from the publishing experience of LWA was to reboot Archie in his high school days, and add the longer continuing storyline with subplot elements of teenage angst and soap-opera dramatics (whether that be the breakup of a longtime relationship, or an evil Principal taking over the school), so if it doesn't bother you there, I don't see why it would bother you to see them as adults with problems in a 'possible future' setting. If you had said you didn't care for it because there were too many science-fictional elements in the story, that I could probably understand.

Now, the problem I have with the New Riverdale titles isn't their mere existence, for an audience that wants to purchase an "Archie variant", in the same way that LIFE WITH ARCHIE or AFTERLIFE WITH ARCHIE are "variant Archies". For me, it's "eh... been there, done that". That's all well and good, if what they were doing was merely expanding the audience by adding new options for types of Archie products, variants that would appeal to different audience demographic segments. The problem I have with it is that every indication is that the intention of ACP is to seed and fertilize the NEW garden of New Riverdale titles, while they let the OLD garden of Classic Archie wither and die out. All the resources are being diverted over there, and away from Classic Archie. It's not an Archie alternative, it's an Archie replacement.


ACP will probably go bankrupt if the TV show fails. They don't have unlimited money to devote to keeping multiple Archie universes going at the same time.

I can handle teen drama because it's pretty petty and doesn't really affect the world. LWA was too realistic for me. I have to be in a certain kind of mood to read it when there isn't a lot of stress going on in my own life. Same reason I don't read Saga a lot even though whether that comic is realistic is debatable. I read comics for escapism.

I'm curious to what other comics you consider to be similar to the new Riverdale. I might be interested in reading them.

BettyReggie

I read
Cheryl Blossom #18 & #19 & & #20 & #25 & #26 & Cheryl Blossom Special #4.

DeCarlo Rules

April 28, 2016, 03:34:26 pm #189 Last Edit: April 28, 2016, 03:49:39 pm by DeCarlo Rules
Quote from: irishmoxie on April 28, 2016, 11:39:52 am
I'm curious to what other comics you consider to be similar to the new Riverdale. I might be interested in reading them.



I've read a lot of comics, and find very little of uniqueness in the two New Riverdale books. The style of art and writing/storytelling in basically the same as in most mainstream comics, but that shouldn't be all that surprising because that's why they hired those people to write and draw them. It basically looks like those pages of a superhero comic on which no superheroes appear, and it's just people walking around, talking and doing other ordinary boring-type stuff. Other mainstream comics have other elements that make them unique that I like, but those are conceptual usually, or sometimes more character-driven, but for the most part they are illustrated adventure stories, not characters that were originally designed as funny cartoons. With Archie Comics, there's just nothing about the characters themselves and their relationships that I find that intrinsically compelling apart from the style and tone, and the way it's executed. It's just like there are a dozen different styles of Batman comic books, but I don't like them all, only certain ones, according to the style and execution of it.


I like classic Archie because it's unique and not like comics produced by any other company (although other companies DID produce this type of comics in the past, and I like those too... Millie the Model, Chili, Patsy and Hedy, Date With Debbi, Leave It To Binky, Swing With Scooter, Tippy Teen, Go-Go and Animal, and others -- plus a few new ones like Die Kitty Die and Super Suckers). I like the cartooniness, the lightheartedness, the cuteness and sweetness of them. They are "comical comics". They are candy for the eyes and for the mind in the same way bubblegum rock is candy for the ears. All that is completely gone from the New Riverdale books. I'd rather read an old issue of one of those other comics I mentioned, or an old issue of some Archie comic.

BettyReggie

I'm planning to read these 12 comics so I hang them on my wall.
Jem & The Holograms-Outrageous Annual
Jem & The Holograms #4 & & #9 & #10 & #13 & #14
And I also want to read Lumberjanes
Lumberjanes #3 & #9 & #11 & #12 & #13 & #14

irishmoxie

Quote from: BettyReggie on April 29, 2016, 05:27:38 pm
I'm planning to read these 12 comics so I hang them on my wall.
Jem & The Holograms-Outrageous Annual
Jem & The Holograms #4 & & #9 & #10 & #13 & #14
And I also want to read Lumberjanes
Lumberjanes #3 & #9 & #11 & #12 & #13 & #14


Trying to find the time to reread lumberjanes from the beginning. I hope there are some Easter eggs or foreshadowing to the mysteries of the forest.

BettyReggie

I read each of these for 15 minutes
Bad Houses
BatGirl-BatGirl Of Burnside
Archie's Favorite High School Comics
Archie-Volume #1-Staples & Wu & Fish issues

DeCarlo Rules

April 30, 2016, 02:01:40 am #193 Last Edit: April 30, 2016, 02:04:31 am by DeCarlo Rules
Yesterday I finished reading ARCHIE'S PAL JUGHEAD ARCHIVES VOL. 1. There's a second volume of this series coming in June, and I plan to get that too. I'd love it if Dark Horse Archives produced volumes of REGGIE and ARCHIE'S GIRLS BETTY AND VERONICA too. I haven't gotten any of the ARCHIE ARCHIVES volumes they did (which begin at the beginning, in 1941), but that's mainly because I have a low tolerance for the 1940s Archie stories. The quality of the art and stories seemed to vastly improve by 1949, where the first Jughead volume picks up in the chronology, plus I just find Jughead more intrinsically interesting as a character.

The exception, for me, would be Bob Montana's comic strip Archie, the first IDW volume of which (beginning with the first strip in 1946) I greatly enjoyed -- but it's worth noting that the characters at that point hadn't quite evolved into the versions that we know today. Some of their characteristics are in place right from the start, but others hadn't really begun to be emphasized yet -- notably, Veronica in the strip seems a much more benign or innocent character than she later became. Betty doesn't get a lot of focus, relatively speaking, but the strips where she does show the beginning of her character development, and even then she seems like a sweet kid. I was surprised at the number of plots (or variations on same) that I can recall seeing used in later comic book stories. Montana was a great gag writer too, and the strip format seems to showcase his strengths. His daily strips seem a lot funnier to me than the comic book stories that were being published at the same time.

BettyReggie

I read those 6 Lumberjanes issues & 6 Jem & The Holograms issues. I put them in my comic frames. I will take a picture & put it on my Twitter page.


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