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Days we look foward to as Archie Fans. by BettyReggie
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What are you currently watching? by BettyReggie
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What comics have you been reading? by DeCarlo Rules
[September 19, 2018, 02:34:21 pm]


ARCHIE COMICS FOR NOVEMBER 2017 by CanScatC
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What have you done today? by BettyReggie
[September 18, 2018, 09:37:52 pm]


Latest Hauls, what did you buy? by DeCarlo Rules
[September 18, 2018, 11:25:10 am]


An Archie Comics timeline (2009-2018): highlights & lowlights by DeCarlo Rules
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So I bought Archie Archives Vol. 1 and ... by Terry1
[September 14, 2018, 05:58:14 pm]


Riverdale Reviewed by Tuxedo Mark
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  • DeCarlo Rules: Check out Stadium Comics' entire line of Archie Comics RE variant covers here: [link] All are homages to famous Marvel or DC cover images.
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  • DeCarlo Rules: Those are RE (retailer exclusive) variants available only from Stadium Comics. Here's another cool one they have, a variant of ARCHIE 1941 #1 [link]
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  • DeCarlo Rules: ... and often the answers to those "why" questions comes down to a very simple explanation of "because it's a funny situation".
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  • DeCarlo Rules: The questions you ask about classic Archie (which is a cartoon on paper) are sort of "real-world logic" questions. A cartoon world, unlike the real world, creates its own rules and its own logic, nonsensical as that might be. Like Wile E. Coyote not being affected by gravity until he looks down and realizes he's run off the edge of the cliff.
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Author Topic: What have you done today?  (Read 307857 times)

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BettyReggie

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #375 on: August 24, 2016, 12:44:35 pm »
🌷💐🌸🌹 My 2 commissions came from Gabbie Gross, I'm going put in comic frames. I'll take pictures.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2016, 09:17:21 am by BettyReggie »

BettyReggie

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #376 on: August 25, 2016, 10:22:24 pm »
If the Rain doesn't hurt our plans my aide & I are going to Menchies. It up in RiverDale. So we take Access A Ride. I'll feel bad if I have to cancel it.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2016, 09:17:05 am by BettyReggie »

DeCarlo Rules

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #377 on: August 27, 2016, 11:44:06 am »
Listened to about half of the new Riverdale Podcast early this morning, then I watched the first four episodes of JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS IN OUTER SPACE.

BettyReggie

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #378 on: August 27, 2016, 01:14:01 pm »
My brother is coming over. We going hang out. I have another receipt from KFC so we get the free meal but pay for the drink. I'll put those new comics on my wall later.
I returned 2 cds to the library. My brother got 2 books out . And we had lunch at KFC. I got mom her milk at Garden Gourmet. And we went to the thrift store. They have a good find 5 of The Scott Pilgrim graphic novel. books. They didn't have book #4 though. I bought them.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2016, 09:06:36 am by BettyReggie »

Archiecomicxfan215

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #379 on: August 28, 2016, 12:38:55 pm »
I have been busy working working all week. My only day off from work was Tuesday. But today is a brand new work week and I have tomorrow and Tuesday off. But if I get extra hours I will take them because I kind of need the money and my goal is to move by june or july 2017

BettyReggie

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #380 on: August 28, 2016, 08:36:46 pm »
Yesterday I bought Scott Pilgrim #4 book from ebay. Now I'll have all of them.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2016, 07:30:02 am by BettyReggie »

DeCarlo Rules

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #381 on: August 28, 2016, 11:47:43 pm »
Sunday: Listened to the rest of the Riverdale Podcast, watched 4 more episodes of JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS IN OUTER SPACE, read some manga.

BettyReggie

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #382 on: August 29, 2016, 12:24:59 pm »
I just got back from doing my morning chores. I put 2 books in the library box outside of the library.  The place wasn't even open yet. I went grocery shopping & I had pick up a prescription of Tizindine. And I got pizza for lunch.
And I actually went to the library to see if they had anything for me. I got 3 books out & then went home. And now I'm watching Seinfeld.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2016, 07:28:40 am by BettyReggie »

irishmoxie

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #383 on: August 29, 2016, 05:03:27 pm »
Sunday: Listened to the rest of the Riverdale Podcast, watched 4 more episodes of JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS IN OUTER SPACE, read some manga.

Worth watching? I was put off by Veronica's southern accent in the other cartoons.

BettyReggie

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #384 on: August 30, 2016, 05:11:30 pm »
Hot Lazy Day, but my Aide & I went to the library. I returned  2 books. And we bought home pizza
On Thursday I'm watching Orange Is New Black Season #3. I hope season #4 comes out by Christmas.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 11:35:30 am by BettyReggie »

Archiecomicxfan215

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #385 on: September 04, 2016, 10:36:26 am »
I have been so busy with work, and then I keep waking up after 10am. I hate it. I mean once in a blue moon is okay but I miss waking up early.

I have been busy with work like i said, but I also am trying to look for a second job. I can't deal with one job no more. i had 33 hours 2 weeks ago, last week I had 21, this week I have 25 hours but get time and a half due to labor day, and next week I got 15 HOURS!!!!! i do not understand so I am looking for more employment

At least I am working the primary election. But that is also a school day and kids will be in school when I'm sitting near a door from 5am-9pm

DeCarlo Rules

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #386 on: September 05, 2016, 03:00:35 am »
Sunday: Listened to the rest of the Riverdale Podcast, watched 4 more episodes of JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS IN OUTER SPACE, read some manga.

Worth watching? I was put off by Veronica's southern accent in the other cartoons.

If you want the shortest answer, in a word: "No". If you're satisfied with a simple yes or no answer, then you probably need to read no further.

The more detailed explanation of why it's not worth watching might require a little more justification by way of "Why?" or "Compared to what?", but since you've provided me with an excuse, I'll take this opportunity to expound. I delayed replying to this for a while, because I needed to think about it, and I also wanted to re-watch some episodes from the original JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS and compare them to see whether I was judging J&TPC IN OUTER SPACE overly harshly, even by 1972 standards of animation. Yesterday I watched 6 of the original 16 JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS episodes for comparison purposes, and they still hold up well by 1970 animation standards (in fact, I still consider the original JOSIE series superior to HB's 1969 SCOOBY-DOO WHERE ARE YOU!, the show that it's often compared to as a weak imitation of). I would go further to state that in my estimation, JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS is the best of all the various television series to have been adapted from any Archie Comics properties -- this despite the undeniable fact that it bears little resemblance to, and is inferior to, the 40 or so issues of the Josie comic book that preceded it and served as its nominal inspiration.

To digress:
In case you're wondering, of the various Filmation animated efforts, I consider SABRINA AND THE GROOVIE GOOLIES to be the best, for reasons that have a lot to do with the Groovie Goolies, who never appeared in an Archie Comic. Of the shows strictly based on Archie and the gang (apart from any consideration of the music of The Archies, which I love), I'd consider ARCHIE'S T.V. FUNNIES to be the best, again for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with the Archie characters, and everything to do with the animated newspaper comic strip characters. The problem with most of the Filmation Archie cartoons isn't bad animation, but the scripts and characterization (and to a lesser extent the voice actors, inferior to those used by HB), most of which are devoid of the exact elements that I enjoy most from the ACP comic books, so unless they add something to counterbalance that -- the music of The Archies, showing animated cartoons based on famous syndicated newspaper comics, or The Groovie Goolies -- I find little left to maintain my interest. An exception to the voice cast was Jane Webb, who did multiple voices for Filmation. I loved her voice characterization for Sabrina, but found it sadly lacking for both Betty and Veronica. Jane Webb provided nearly all of the female voices for the Filmation cartoons at the time these cartoons were made. As a side note, the southern accent given to Veronica was a carryover from her vocal characterization on the old time radio series.

Now back to JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS IN OUTER SPACE:
Compared to today's standards of quality for judging animated fare made for children's television, JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS IN OUTER SPACE is just a bad cartoon, plain and simple. Some people might jump to the conclusion that it's a bad cartoon simply because the premise of launching a teenage pop group into outer space is ridiculously stupid, but that really has nothing to do with it at all. Cartoons of this era were often sold to the networks based not on making any pilot film for the series, but by a simple presentation in which the title alone and simple concept premise was sold on the basis of showing a few character model sheets, background paintings, etc. This is really no different than how low-budget independent films of the 1950s-1960s were sold to distributors -- all that was needed was to dream up a catchy title/intriguing premise, and then make a mock-up of the movie poster, in order to gain the financial backing necessary from the distributor. American-International Films successfully used that formula to generate hundreds of films to fill drive-in theaters and attract teenage audiences. So simply giving the title to a talented artist and letting the artist's imagination take flight with the concept might result in something cool-looking like this:



Unfortunately, the actual JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS IN OUTER SPACE cartoon is nowhere near as interesting as Holly G's cover for Archie & Friends #60. Compared to the original Hanna-Barbera JOSIE cartoon produced for the 1970-1971 television season, IN OUTER SPACE is inferior in almost every way. The animation is worse, the scripts are far worse, even the voiceover acting is worse (the same voice actors were used as in the original JOSIE, but there wasn't a lot they could do to improve the terrible scripts, and it doesn't even sound like they were making much of an effort). Virtually everything here is worse: Alexander is even more cowardly, Alexandra is even ruder, more obnoxious, and permanently PMS'ed, Josie and (especially) Sebastian have less to do in every story, than they did in the original series. The songs are much worse, practically perfunctory, and it's obviously not the same group from the original show. An excuse needs to be made in every episode to stop the action for the girls to perform a musical number to distract the villains or otherwise disrupt the machinations of the plot, then the action cuts to the scene of the Pussycats playing (in re-used footage from the original series, and inexplicably now dressed in their original Pussycat outfits). In one cartoon, the plot called for them to be bowled over along with their instruments, and in the next scene they're shown lying on the floor along with their instruments in disarray, now dressed again in their space outfits! We're never even given an initial episode explaining how they get lost in outer space, except for the opening credits, where for some inexplicable reason, the Pussycats, Alex, Alexandra, and Alan are all having a photo-shoot atop a rocket gantry in front of an open space capsule, when Alexandra tries to crowd in front and hog the spotlight, causing them all to fall backwards into the capsule, where Alexandra's arm activates the lever controlling the launch sequence, the capsule door automatically shuts, and the rocket takes off -- that's it. Unlike the original JOSIE, this spinoff series didn't even bother with simple title cards for each episode's title (even though those cost nothing to animate). The scripts are repetitive and tired. Each episode involves some new planet where some new menace lures or captures their spaceship, and plans on using it to (usually) invade the Earth (or less often, the universe, or neighboring planets). The fact that Josie and the gang have no idea how to get back to Earth never seems to deter these alien despots, even if the context of the episode makes it clear that this is the first time for contact between earth-people and this particular alien race. Most of these tin-pan tyrants seem like (despite some nice character and vehicle design work from Alex Toth) they are the kind of low-level nuisances that Space Ghost or the Herculoids couldn't be bothered with, or would have defeated in a few minutes.

To understand how a Hanna-Barbera animated series could have gotten so bad in the short amount of time from the 1970 to 1972 TV seasons, it's helpful to look at this list of HB productions:

HANNA-BARBERA CARTOONS:

1969-1970 season
THE PERILS OF PENELOPE PITSTOP
DASTARDLY AND MUTTLEY IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES
CATTANOOGA CATS
SCOOBY-DOO, WHERE ARE YOU!

1970-1971 season
THE HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS
JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS
WHERE'S HUDDLES?

1971-1972 season
THE PEBBLES AND BAMM-BAMM SHOW
HELP! IT'S THE HAIR BEAR BUNCH!
THE FUNKY PHANTOM

1972-1973 season
THE AMAZING CHAN AND THE CHAN CLAN
WAIT TILL YOUR FATHER GETS HOME
THE FLINTSTONE COMEDY HOUR
THE ROMAN HOLIDAYS
SEALAB 2020
THE NEW SCOOBY-DOO MOVIES
JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS IN OUTER SPACE

The Flintstone Comedy Hour and The New Scooby-Doo Movies were both hour-long series, so in 1972 HB was producing 4 and 1/2 hours of animation for television (even if half of the Flintstone Comedy Hour was re-runs of Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm episodes from the season before, with only 4 new ones produced for the 1972 season). In the previous two TV seasons HB had only produced an hour and a half of shows, so they really must have been struggling to keep up with their production schedule. In addition to the sheer number of hours, Wait Till Your Father Gets Home was the first animated series (syndicated) made specifically for an adult audience (NBC aired it in a 10:30pm time slot), and you can imagine that as such, more time, effort and money went into producing each of those episodes, both from a writing and an animation standpoint, and using the best of HB's available staff.

It's obvious that not too much imagination or effort went into the production of JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS IN OUTER SPACE, which is a shame. Despite the silliness of the premise, something interesting could have been done with the idea with more time and a better budget, and a studio staff not stretched to its absolute limits. If there's any bright spot at all in this cartoon, it's Alex Toth's character and vehicle designs, and Melody's cute new alien pet Bleep (voiced by Frank Welker). Unfortunately, Bleep takes over most of the plot functions of Sebastian from the original show, so Sebastian's part is reduced accordingly, and in most episodes he has little to do.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2016, 06:06:35 am by DeCarlo Rules »

BettyReggie

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #387 on: September 05, 2016, 12:20:02 pm »
The library is closed today 👅💦 💦 💦 👅. And no mail today either. Well I wasn't expecting anything. All my comics come monthly from Midtown Comics. I'll call them tomorrow to see when my next shipment with be shipped.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 11:35:45 am by BettyReggie »

BettyReggie

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #388 on: September 06, 2016, 05:41:19 am »
I was watching Adventure Time & Criminal Minds on my iPod Classic before. I have to get up soon . I hope 4 cds come to the library that I was waiting for. Maybe they will be there.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 11:36:06 am by BettyReggie »

BettyReggie

Re: What have you done today?
« Reply #389 on: September 06, 2016, 05:18:41 pm »
I ate at home to save money. I had to go pick up my mom's prescriptions. And I also got my Omeprazole. My aide & I also had to go to Food Town. I bought my mom & I each a slice for supper.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 08:50:03 pm by BettyReggie »

 


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