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Riverdale TV Series

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Great Gazoo

Quote from: Thrillho on April 09, 2016, 05:45:29 PM
Quote from: The Bee on April 09, 2016, 03:58:08 PM

Really for me as I have said before this show really isn't even an Archie comics related television show. They have changed so much from the original comics to appease whoever that really the only thing that is the same is the name of the characters.


I don't have a problem with the characters not resembling their comic counterparts as even the comic characters don't resemble their original incarnations. These versions just seem like tropes to me, especially the tired "evil Mr. Lodge" trope.  ::)

Quote from: SAGG on April 09, 2016, 05:03:58 PM
Well, with the way this is shaping up, they ought to "pilot" it right out the door... >:(


;D
Quote from: irishmoxie on April 09, 2016, 05:26:11 PM
Judging by this message board I think most Archie readers are males in their 40s and 50s. A few kids do come here but get bored quickly and leave. The same thing probably happens while they are reading Archie comics too.


I am a female in my 20s. I started reading Archie when I was a little kid, and then lost interest when I got older and started reading other titles. I really like this era of experimentation because I still love the characters but now that I am older I want to see more continuity in the stories I read.
The least of my worries is that Reggie is Asian as is Dilton. I could also really careless that Veronica is Hispanic. It is more the character traits that they have seemed to make drastic changes to the characters that I have read about. For example I have heard that Betty could possibly be dependent on some sort of pain medication. That is the sort of thing that disturbs me the most about the whole thing. Yes the drastic age difference in Miss Grundy is also ridiculous in my opinion mostly because that is going to change so much of who Miss Grundy really is. This is why I say the names may be the same, but the characters are surely not.

chancebond


Great Gazoo

Quote from: kassandralove on April 09, 2016, 07:07:04 PM
Quote from: irishmoxie on April 09, 2016, 05:22:26 PM
Quote from: kassandralove on April 08, 2016, 11:47:17 AM
Quote from: Fernando Ruiz on April 08, 2016, 01:26:40 AM
Quote from: kassandralove on April 08, 2016, 12:33:22 AM
I wonder what the ratio is of kids vs adult readers for Archie
Are teenagers actually reading Archie? Or is it us older fans who have been reading for years..



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Little kids still make up the largest share of Archie's audience. The digests remain their financial backbone.


Archie, however, is ignoring both of these facts by letting the digests deteriorate and by foolishly pursuing the adult audience of the direct sales market.


That's so disappointing :( the digests are the best thing and really the only ones I buy. I find there is so many of the same like 10 retro panels put into each new issue that keep getting recycled and there isn't a lot of verity. I tend to just buy now from used book stores and stock up on all my digests.

Where are all these used bookstores that have digests? I can't find them anywhere. The only thing I can find are the floppies.

In my city we have a used book store chain called BMV might just be Canadian
I live in the States and I have never heard of one before. Yes there are thrift stores that do sell old used books amongst a bunch of other stuff, but I have never saw a comic or digest there. That would be a great idea though.

60sBettyandReggie

Quote from: irishmoxie on April 09, 2016, 05:26:11 PM
Judging by this message board I think most Archie readers are males in their 40s and 50s. A few kids do come here but get bored quickly and leave. The same thing probably happens while they are reading Archie comics too.


Are the majority here men? I think it's half men, half women.
I am a 33 y/o female and like others have said, I too have been reading them since I was a kid. But I think it is true that the younger ones get bored quickly and leave.

Great Gazoo

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on April 09, 2016, 08:42:41 PM
Quote from: irishmoxie on April 09, 2016, 05:26:11 PM
Judging by this message board I think most Archie readers are males in their 40s and 50s. A few kids do come here but get bored quickly and leave. The same thing probably happens while they are reading Archie comics too.


Are the majority here men? I think it's half men, half women.
I am a 33 y/o female and like others have said, I too have been reading them since I was a kid. But I think it is true that the younger ones get bored quickly and leave.
I would actually think it would be the opposite when it comes to Archie comics. Now if we were discussing Batman/Spiderman or other Superhero comics I would think there would be more men, but Archie comics I would think would mostly be read by females.

Fernando Ruiz

Quote from: irishmoxie on April 09, 2016, 05:26:11 PM

Judging by this message board I think most Archie readers are males in their 40s and 50s.

As much as I love you guys, you can't gauge Archie's readership by this one message board.

Most of Archie's readers are little kids. This is why the digests remain Archie's best selling product.


invisifan

#141
It's certainly true that we aren't representative of the general readership (or population either I'm sure) ... perhaps of the adult Archie readership (although that's a tiny fraction) ... of our population I'd say the male/female ratio appears fairly evenly divided; on a national level — Archie hasn't ever tried to market much beyond North America, or even to Latin America really — the split between US and Canada is about 10-to-1 I think (ie. about what you'd expect given populations); the only off balance stat seems to be age:  I think the average female age is maybe early 30s (some older, some younger) while the men are, it appears, closer to the other end of 40 ... I'm guessing that possibly due to cultural or biological biases the women like the romance/relationship aspects more, or sooner, than the guys ...?

invisifan

Quote from: The Bee on April 09, 2016, 07:23:01 PM
Quote from: kassandralove on April 09, 2016, 07:07:04 PM
Quote from: irishmoxie on April 09, 2016, 05:22:26 PM
Where are all these used bookstores that have digests? I can't find them anywhere. The only thing I can find are the floppies.
In my city we have a used book store chain called BMV might just be Canadian
I live in the States and I have never heard of one before. Yes there are thrift stores that do sell old used books amongst a bunch of other stuff, but I have never saw a comic or digest there. That would be a great idea though.
Many years ago when TV  wasn't so ubiquitous & addictive (fewer channels, less targeted content) bookstores were common with multiple nationwide chains and any mall had one — two or more for the big malls (now they apparently weren't even in the spell-check dictionaries) used bookstores were common with a ½ dozen even in smallish towns ... after a while the big bookstores merged and downsized to survive, anything on a "News-stand" is almost an anachronism, and used material got divided between the LCS back-issues bins and thrift stores ... Everything's about TV and video games — even theatres and broadcast radio are dying off ... and with Netflix & internet stations, TV doesn't have long ...

DeCarlo Rules

#143
Quote from: invisifan on April 10, 2016, 01:14:38 AM
It's certainly true that we aren't representative of the general readership (or population either I'm sure) ... perhaps of the adult Archie readership (although that's a tiny fraction) ... of our population I'd say the male/female ratio appears fairly evenly divided; on a national level — Archie hasn't ever tried to market much beyond North America, or even to Latin America really — the split between US and Canada is about 10-to-1 I think (ie. about what you'd expect given populations); the only off balance stat seems to be age:  I think the average female age is maybe early 30s (some older, some younger) while the men are, it appears, closer to the other end of 40 ... I'm guessing that possibly due to cultural or biological biases the women like the romance/relationship aspects more, or sooner, than the guys ...?

In a few news stories from 2009, they made mention of the fact that ACP was about to open its first branch office in New Delhi, India (don't know if it actually happened, or if it's still open; I suspect not), which attests to the popularity of Archie in India. It's kind of ironic that for all of Archie's popularity in Canada historically (looking over ACP's past history, there are many covers and stories with a Canadian theme, and even the one-shot Archie All Canadian Digest), there isn't a single Canadian native character who appears semi-regularly in Archie stories, while there are two semi-regular Indian characters, Raj Patel (not counting his family) and Amisha Mehta... and not even counting Banni, the Indian student who took Veronica's place at Riverdale as part of an exchange program in the 6-part story arc, "Farewell, Betty and Veronica".

I don't know if I'd buy the premise that the members of this board represent even a fair cross-section of the adult Archie readers. People need to be far more motivated than the average reader (even the average adult collector) to be here.

invisifan

I don't think it happened, but ACP is so known for jumping the gun with character changes to help their marketing ... isn't that roughly when Raj first showed up ... ?

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: invisifan on April 10, 2016, 02:26:25 AM
I don't think it happened, but ACP is so known for jumping the gun with character changes to help their marketing ... isn't that roughly when Raj first showed up ... ?

Raj first appeared in TALES FROM RIVERDALE DIGEST #21 in 2008 - in a story written and drawn by Fernando Ruiz. I don't know if he's responsible for creating the character himself... maybe he'll see this and comment on that.

invisifan

If they were far enough along to mention it in 2009 they must have been making some plans at least a year or two before ...

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: invisifan on April 10, 2016, 07:48:14 AM
If they were far enough along to mention it in 2009 they must have been making some plans at least a year or two before ...


I don't know if you're trying to imply that ACP just decided to "market themselves" to India without any real indication that there was an actual audience there, but I don't buy that either. They certainly do display a tendency to overextend themselves and go out on a limb on some faint hope of a big payday in the offing. They seem like real gamblers there, who don't really take the time to think things through, along with the possible repercussions. They tend to get excited about some idea, then focus on it with a kind of tunnelvision, until they inevitably get cold feet and back out, after bragging about their plans and schemes too soon. Risky Business, indeed.

Fernando Ruiz

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 10, 2016, 01:55:59 AM

In a few news stories from 2009, they made mention of the fact that ACP was about to open its first branch office in New Delhi, India (don't know if it actually happened, or if it's still open; I suspect not), which attests to the popularity of Archie in India.

I never heard this one before. I don't think it ever happened. Archie does have exceptional popularity in India and for a little while, Archie was doing some business over there. I don't know if they still are at all. At any rate, this popularity did lead to the creation of Raj Patel, which brings me to my next response...


Oldiesmann

On the subject of used bookstore chains, the only one I know of here in the states (or at least in my part of the country) is Half Price Books, and I've only found Archie Comics there once (I bought a bunch of digests for $1 a pop the one time I did find them there). Most of the time they just have back issues of various DC and Marvel titles (and the like) - all the "popular" titles that people supposedly want to buy these days (I've never gotten into Marvel or DC and don't understand why those have so much more of a following than Archie does).

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