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Aug 14 2022 4:05pm
Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Cinderblossom" from Cheryl Blossom #20: https://riverdalereviewed.wordpress.com/2022/08/14/comics-cinderblossom/

Aug 13 2022 9:51am
DeCarlo Rules: According to the current profiles for "traditional" characters on Archiecomics.com, the official nomenclature now is: Josie McCoy, Melody Valentine, and Valerie Smith. Pepper has no character profile, but there are only 21 of them.

Aug 12 2022 5:23pm
Tuxedo Mark: The new Pepper story that came out uses Valentine for Melody, so I guess that's officially her last name now.

Aug 12 2022 3:11pm
Tuxedo Mark: Melody's last name was Jones in the comics and Valentine in the movie. In the Josie manga (which came out after the movie), Josie's last name was Jones for the sole purpose of making a Bridget Jones reference. I forget what the New Riverdale comics used.

Aug 12 2022 3:09pm
Tuxedo Mark: Valerie's had the last name Smith in the comics, but I don't know when that started. Her last name in the movie was Brown. Josie's last name was James in the comics and McCoy in the movie and on Riverdale.

Aug 12 2022 10:56am
DeCarlo Rules: It's weird that sometimes they acknowledge that a character hasn't been seen in some time (I remember them doing that with Frankie Valdez, Evelyn Evernever, and Cheryl).

Aug 12 2022 10:53am
DeCarlo Rules: And Pepper did have a small appearance somewhere else in a classic story since Civil Chore, but I can't remember now. But the recent digest story is the first where she's actually the title character.

Aug 12 2022 10:50am
DeCarlo Rules: Valerie's had the last name Smith since... the 2001 movie? Unless Pepper's last name predates that , I can't see any excuse for using Smith again.

Aug 12 2022 10:47am
DeCarlo Rules: Stories have definitely been rescheduled from their original solicitations. Some digest solicits that promised two stories did not deliver when published..

Aug 10 2022 10:19am
Tuxedo Mark: I think we're meant to assume Pepper (like all of the rarely-used characters) have been in Riverdale this whole time (see, for example, Civil Chore, where she cameoed), but they don't warrant appearances.

ARCHIE COMICS FOR DECEMBER 2016

Started by Oldiesmann, September 21, 2016, 01:06:21 PM

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DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: BettyReggie on September 22, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
He did do the cover Archie #10 of them dancing at the beach.

Okay, I just checked that out. I don't know... he made Veronica look pretty weird, all tall and skinny with these huge feet. It's almost like he stuck Veronica's head on Big Ethel's body.


BettyReggie

I think he did this. I have this one.
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DeCarlo Rules

December is a good month for the digests. My three favorite digests all come out in December a week apart.

12/07


12/14


12/21

irishmoxie

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 23, 2016, 05:32:17 AM
Quote from: BettyReggie on September 22, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
He did do the cover Archie #10 of them dancing at the beach.

Okay, I just checked that out. I don't know... he made Veronica look pretty weird, all tall and skinny with these huge feet. It's almost like he stuck Veronica's head on Big Ethel's body.



I love Archie beach scenes but this one was so bad I couldn't buy it.

Speaking of bad art, does anyone know what constitutes breakdowns versus finishes as listed in the most recent Archie issue. The inking was so bad on it. Comparing this to Fiona Staples... Wow

irishmoxie

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 23, 2016, 10:07:57 AM
December is a good month for the digests. My three favorite digests all come out in December a week apart.

12/07


12/14


12/21


Hopefully chock full of Christmas stories. I bought some Christmas themed Giant issues over the summer and I'm saving them to read around Christmas.

BettyReggie

I preordered my comics from Midtown Comics
After Life With Archie #12
Archie #15-Eisma & Zullo. That other one is ugly.
Reggie's
A Blank one
Hack
Charm
Pitilli
Caldwell
Jarell

irishmoxie

Quote from: BettyReggie on September 23, 2016, 05:57:06 PM
I preordered my comics from Midtown Comics
After Life With Archie #12
Archie #15-Eisma & Zullo. That other one is ugly.
Reggie's
A Blank one
Hack
Charm
Pitilli
Caldwell
Jarell

I like that other one. It's like Cheryl's possessed by the devil.

DeCarlo Rules

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Quote from: irishmoxie on September 23, 2016, 12:03:45 PM
Speaking of bad art, does anyone know what constitutes breakdowns versus finishes as listed in the most recent Archie issue. The inking was so bad on it. Comparing this to Fiona Staples... Wow

Breakdowns are also known as layouts. This is just a rough blocking out of the figures and panels, so you can see how the story will be told, and where all the characters will be placed in each panel, sometimes with the balloon placement to indicate where artwork shouldn't go because it will be covered with dialogue. The pencilling on the figures still needs to be finished, and then inked, background details drawn in, and so forth. In the example below, the left page shows Jack Kirby's layouts or breakdowns for a Captain America story (the lettering was then added on top by Sam Rosen). You can see Kirby's written notes to the penciller in the margins. The finished page on the right was then completed by another artist, George Tuska.



In this second example from the same story, you can see an interesting anomaly. Sometimes the penciller didn't always follow the layouts slavishly, but chose to show the same scene from a different position, even though the basic information conveyed is identical -- Panel 1 on the top of left hand page in the layouts shows a different camera angle and composition to the shot than Panel 1 on the top of the right hand page.




Here's a different kind of example. Sometimes the same artist who will produce the finished art will do his own breakdowns/layouts, as a stage of working out how to tell the story before committing to working on the details of the page. In this case, they're called "prelims" or preliminary art. Here artist Wallace Wood is working out how to tell the story on this page, but you'll notice that when he gets to the final page, he's made a number of changes from the way he originally laid out or broke down the story.



Jingles


I should be getting from Archie Comics Betty and Veronica DD and Jughead and Archie Comics Annual.

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