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  • Tuxedo Mark: And another one: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:42:07 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: Riverdale spoof: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Roughing It!" from B&V Friends #262: [link]
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  • DeCarlo Rules: @irishmoxie -- It's definitely complete. All six of the 1958-59 Sy Reit/Bob White original issues, plus the feature-length "Good Guys of the Galaxy" by Tom DeFalco & Fernando Ruiz from ARCHIE #655, and three 5-page digest shorts that guest-starred Cosmo -- and the complete first issue of the Ian Flynn/Tracy Yarley COSMO (2017) thrown in for good measure. It follows the same layout/format as the previous JUGHEAD'S TIME POLICE, even though that didn't carry the "Archie Comics Presents..." trade dress. Not a bad buy for $11.
    June 14, 2018, 01:08:59 AM
  • irishmoxie: Anyone get the Cosmo book that came out today? Any good?
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  • Cosmo: Ah man....and I was worried I was the last enthusiast for ERB's stuff. I'm currently rereading my Dell Tarzan books. Really good fun! It took a while to complete that run.
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  • DeCarlo Rules: ...Marvel's earlier JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS in there, so the DE Tarzan comics need to go in a different box, and SHEENA (also a recent DE title) and DC's RIMA THE JUNGLE GIRL will help fill up that box.
    June 11, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Recently. DE's unauthorized LORD OF THE JUNGLE Tarzan adaptations (and its authorized THE GREATEST ADVENTURE) won't fit into my existing box of previous Tarzan comics from Gold Key, DC, and Dark Horse, so I have to start a new box. Logically these get filed with DE's unauthorized WARLORD OF MARS comics (including DEJAH THORIS) and their authorized JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS. But I also want to squeeze Marve;
    June 11, 2018, 07:38:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Interesting. I tend not to group titles by publisher at all, if the characters were not created as work-for-hire (meaning the publisher is legally considered the 'author' of the character). Do they belong to that publisher's "universe" (assuming it has one)? There are some publishers like Dynamite Entertainment where the vast majority of the titles they publish are licensed, and thus were "inherited" from other publishers. Therefore it makes more sense to me to group them together in boxes with similar characters. Flash Gordon, The Phantom, and Mandrake comics (regardless of who the actual publisher was) go together in the same box because they're all classic adventure heroes licensed from Hearst Entertainment (formerly King Features Syndicate). Pulp fiction heroes like The Shadow, Doc Savage, and The Spider (regardless of the fact that the latter did not originate with the same publisher as the first two) also get grouped together. Space considerations allowing, Tarzan (and other Edgar Rice Burroughs adaptations) might share the same box with Sheena and Rima, but NOT with Ka-Zar, because he's a Marvel Universe character.
    June 11, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
  • rusty: I do keep all Star Trek series together in their own section and all Star Wars books together.  I also keep all 2000AD titles together and manga books get their own section.  For titles that have switched publishers, I usually keep them all with the publisher that I identify them with the most.  Tarzan has been published by a variety of publishers, but I keep them with Dell/Gold Key.  Conan is starting to get a bit close with all the success Dark Horse has had, but I still identify Conan more with Marvel.
    June 11, 2018, 06:27:26 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Believe it or not, I even have a box labeled "Pseudo-manga" that contains comics published by American companies and created by American creators like Astro Boy & Racer X (Now Comics), Battle of the Planets (Gold Key & Top Cow/Image), Captain Harlock (Malibu), Godzilla (Dark Horse) and Ultraman. I just want to keep those separate from the boxes of real translated manga in floppy comic format.
    June 11, 2018, 03:34:17 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Well. the problem is when you get titles with licensed characters that aren't owned by the publisher. So if you collect Star Trek comics, you'd have different series published by Gold Key, Marvel, DC, and IDW (and I probably missed one in there). It doesn't make sense to me to put them in different boxes by publisher, but to each his own. Disney comics would be another example. There are even some instances where if I like a certain artist enough, I will put all his work regardless of publisher or characters into one box, like Paul Gulacy, Steve Rude, or Mike Allred (and file them chronologically from older to newer, rather than alphabetically). Those are examples where my interest in the creator far exceeds my relative interest in whatever characters are involved.
    June 11, 2018, 03:14:29 PM
  • rusty: That makes sense.  There are many ways that people can file books.  What I do is file by company or category and then alphabetically within each section.  My first category is Richie Rich then Archie, then other Harvey titles, then Disney, then other humor/kids books, then by company (unless it is a company where I don't have very many books from them.  Star Trek and Star Wars each get their own section as well.  I will probably revamp a bit when I do my next major sort/merge.  The biggest section by far for me is DC.
    June 11, 2018, 09:28:59 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: I don't even file my comics alphabetically. I file them according to how closely they're related to other titles, but it's all dependent on the number of issues I have of any given title, and what will fit into a single box. Fpr ACP comics I just put all the short-run series (whether an actual miniseries or just a not particularly successful title) into one box. Even though some of those short run series star Jughead, and I could as easily file those together with the main JUGHEAD title in another box. For longer running ACP titles, "girl" titles are sorted into different boxes than "boy" titles. Eventually when I have enough issues of BETTY (and BETTY AND ME and BETTY'S DIARY) they'll get their own box, and VERONICA will get her own box.
    June 10, 2018, 09:49:06 AM
  • rusty: I file Jughead under J and Reggie under R in all of their incarnations, though I do file the original Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen books under S since that keeps them with the Superman books and also because they kept that title throughout their entire run.  If anyone wants to look up Jughead or Reggie in Overstreet, though, they will have to look under A for the early issues.
    June 10, 2018, 07:56:27 AM
  • BettyReggie: I can't wait to get that Reggie book. It's coming out the day after my 39th Birthday.
    June 10, 2018, 06:42:06 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Yeah, I never understood why publishers felt the need to point that out on the covers of a comic book, like maybe someone didn't really know who REGGIE was, and might buy it just because they noticed the words "Archie's Rival" above the big letters that spelled REGGIE? Same with "Archie's Pal" or "Superman's Pal" or "Superman's Girl Friend" -- like some potential buyer wouldn't know who Jughead, Jimmy Olsen, or Lois Lane was, but would know who Archie or Superman was? Just assume you're selling the product to idiots, I guess. Is anyone really filing REGGIE under "A" for Archie's Pal in their collections??
    June 10, 2018, 05:42:02 AM
  • rusty: In it's first incarnation, Reggie was titled ARCHIE'S RIVAL, REGGIE.  It wasn't until after the title was resurrected nearly a decade later that it became REGGIE and then REGGIE AND ME.
    June 09, 2018, 10:23:13 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: I've never understood why those old titles had "and Me" in them, anyway. Why not just name the titles after the starring characters?
    June 09, 2018, 08:17:45 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Funny that the trade paperback collection is entitled REGGIE AND ME Vol. 1, when his floppy comic book series was actually titled just plain REGGIE for the first 18 issues (and going on hiatus for nine years in between issues #14 and 15). Since it's only a 224-page book, that should mean we'll be seeing reprints of stories from the first 9 (or maybe 10) issues. So shouldn't it be titled REGGIE Vol. 1? Unless they actually do plan to start the first volume with issue #19 from 1966 (the first classic Evilheart issue) where the title actually changed to REGGIE AND ME. My theory is that the ME in that title = Evilheart, unlike the prior titles ARCHIE AND ME (where ME = Mr. Weatherbee), or BETTY AND ME (where the ME = Archie).
    June 09, 2018, 12:59:59 PM


Author Topic: ARCHIE COMICS FOR JUNE 2017  (Read 7186 times)

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Re: ARCHIE COMICS FOR JUNE 2017
« on: April 02, 2017, 12:31:08 AM »
It says the Sabrina book is black and white. That's probably going to be a dealbreaker for me. It's a shame that they aren't printing it the way these comics were originally published.


The information contained in the solicitation is contradictory, but you are in error in believing that this book contains reprints of every story from the 77 issues of SABRINA THE TEENAGE WITCH published from 1971-1983. If that were true, this book would need to be close to 2000 pages.

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Complete Sabrina The Teenage Witch 1962-1971 (TR)
It's back to the beginning with Sabrina in this first of a new series compiling the entire history of everyone's favorite Teenage Witch! This graphic novel chronologically collects all the stories starring Sabrina the Teenage Witch from 1962 to 1965.
Script: Various
Art: Various
Cover: Various
ISBN-13: 978-1-93697-594-5
$9.99 U.S./$10.99 CAN
TR
512 pp, black & white
Direct Market On-Sale Date: 6/7

The title of the book says "Complete ... 1962-1971", where the actual solicitation copy cites instead the years 1962-1965. The solicitation copy claims the book is 512 pages (and the cover image confirms that the book indeed contains "Over 500 Pages of Comics"). Since the years 1962-1965 would only account for Sabrina's earliest appearances within the pages of ARCHIE'S MADHOUSE, clearly that would not add up to over 500 pages of comics, so we can assume that solicitation copy to be the error, and the title's citation of the years 1962-1971 to be the accurate description of what the book actually contains. What that translates to is all of Sabrina's appearances in ARCHIE'S MADHOUSE and ARCHIE'S TV LAUGH-OUT (just the Sabrina stories from the first ten 52-page Giant-size issues, published from December 1969 through November 1971), plus the entire contents of the first four 52-page Giant-size issues of SABRINA THE TEENAGE WITCH, published from April through December 1971. It's difficult to say accurately whether the number of Sabrina story pages in the relevant issues (especially as the MADHOUSE appearances are scattered and irregular) add up to "over 500 pages of comics".

Comparatively speaking, even though this is in black and white, it's a good buy at $10 for over 500 pages of comics. For comparison purposes, consider that ACP charges $7 for a Jumbo Comics Digest issue that contains only 256 pages of comics. It's also fair to compare this format to one that was used recently by both Marvel (for it's ESSENTIAL trade collections) and DC (for it's SHOWCASE PRESENTS trade collections). Both of those companies published those formats with slightly over 500 pages of comics reprinted in black and white. DC's original price for a volume in this series was $17 beginning in 2005 (which later went up to $20 before the series ended at the end of 2015). Marvel charged $15 when their series of Essential trade collections began in 1996, also later increasing the price to $20 per volume before the format was discontinued in 2013 (although Marvel's Essentials also sometimes ran as high as over 580 pages, depending on the individual volume in question). In comparison to that, $10 for 512 pages doesn't seem overpriced.

The sad economic fact is that there just isn't enough consumer demand for these type of non-Riverdale-centric series reprints to justify reprinting the stories in paperback in full color at a higher cover price. I can't force anyone to buy it if the black and white format is so disgusting to them that they'd rather go without reading these stories, but just to be realistic, you should realize that passing on this format isn't going to result in ACP reprinting the stories in some other cheap color format containing a lot of pages. The only other viable economic alternative to this for non-Archie stories would be about half the page-count in a hardcover collection priced somewhere in the $40-$60 price range.

Yes, you can always download pirated scans of the issues from someone else's comic book collection -- which, I guess, is the only alternative we'll all be left with when ACP goes out of business.


I know the upcoming book doesn't include all 77 issues of the 1971 series. I was just showing where you could read them in color.

I have several Archie comics trade paperbacks that are more than 400 pages each. The pages are a little bit bigger than the digests, and the paper is higher quality. And they were about $15 each.

I would gladly pay $20 for the Sabrina book if it was in color.


 


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