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  • Vegan Jughead: Penny Peabody was the girlfriend of Fangs Fogarty, the bully in the Little Archie comics.  I know you don't love those and even if you did read a lot of them, she's barely in them.  Really obscure.  Real Ms Grundy is dead I think.  This one stole her identity if I remember correctly.
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  • DeCarlo Rules: ...and if Ms. Grundy wasn't Ms. Grundy, then who was she, and where is the real Ms. Grundy?
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  • DeCarlo Rules: Penny Peabody? ... original character created by the show's writers?
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  • Vegan Jughead: Hey but who needs Moose and Midge when you can have such prominent characters as Penny Peabody and Toni Topaz on the show?
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  • Vegan Jughead: Ms. Grundy would have been a total surprise but it turned out she wasn't really Ms. Grundy so I can let that go.  Killing Moose after barely seeing him last year and Midge after she was in literally one episode (and barely in it, at that) seems ridiculous.
    October 21, 2017, 08:31:51 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: For a character franchise that's been running for 75+ years, ARCHIE really has a pretty small cast of regulars. Apart from the core 5 and the other 6 already mentioned, there's Cheryl & Jason and Kevin... and (filed under "extended supporting players") the teachers and parents. That's pretty much it. 14 teen characters and their parents & teachers. Sabrina and Josie and their supporting casts coexist in Riverdale, but they're really their own separate franchises. If your murder victims turn out to be Jinx Malloy and Cricket O'Dell, there's not much drama in it, beyond a shrug.
    October 21, 2017, 07:12:39 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Why Moose and Midge? Good question... let me know if you can think of any other ongoing characters who are more expendable, but still well-known. I guess the other likely candidates would be Dilton and Ethel, or Chuck and Nancy. I guess you could come up with a short list of other names, but are they really that well-known? Ms. Grundy was a total surprise!
    October 21, 2017, 06:45:30 AM
  • BettyReggie: Midtown Comics has the new January 2018 Comics. I preordered mine.
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  • CAPalace: Seriously though why are Moose and Midge like one of the first people to die whenever they are in the horror stories line and now Riverdale lol
    October 20, 2017, 12:36:49 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: I recently watched Geek House's reaction to the episode. They're very amateur. They often leave in false starts and farting around before the actual intro. Joey often struggles with the episode title, like he can't just look it up before they start recording. Joey has to announce that he's putting the video into full screen and then does a countdown. Cut all of that stuff out! In the new review, he and his wife didn't react at all to Moose and Midge being killed. It soon became apparent that they didn't even know it was Moose and Midge! Joey referred to them as the "drug addicts".
    October 20, 2017, 11:42:14 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: Oh, wow, that sucks.
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  • JonInIowaCity: I'm not saying that they're dead, but they're not listed as appearing in any future episodes in IMBD, while other minor characters are.
    October 20, 2017, 08:53:10 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: I don't think Moose and Midge are dead.  I hope not.  It's one thing to kill Jason Blossom.  Killing two characters who have been around for 68 years is something else entirely.
    October 20, 2017, 07:43:40 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Or a short black actress with punky hair.  ;D
    October 19, 2017, 12:21:11 PM
  • JonInIowaCity: Looks like each episode of season 2 will end with a murder.
    October 18, 2017, 09:55:30 PM


Author Topic: ARCHIE COMICS FOR NOVEMBER 2017  (Read 1130 times)

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Oldiesmann

ARCHIE COMICS FOR NOVEMBER 2017
« on: August 24, 2017, 11:13:55 PM »

Archie #25
HEART OF RIVERDALE, Part 3! Reggie Mantle has nowhere to turn now that the whole town holds him responsible for Betty’s fate. Meanwhile, Betty learns just how true and noble one of her friends is!

Script: Mark Waid
Art: Audrey Mok, Kelly Fitzpatrick, Jack Morelli
CVR A Reg: Audrey Mok
CVR B Var: Rafael Albuquerque
CVR C Var: Jen Bartel
On Sale Date: 11/1
32-page, full color comic
$3.99 U.S.


The Archies #2
NEW ONGOING SERIES! The Archies hit the road—but tour isn’t all it’s cracked up to be! Can they still make some great music? Or will they go broke and make a U-turn for home?

Script: Alex Segura and Matt Rosenberg
Art: Joe Eisma, Matt Herms, Jack Morelli
CVR A Reg: Greg Smallwood
CVR B Var: Fiona Staples
On Sale Date: 11/8
32-page, full color comic
$3.99 U.S.


Betty & Veronica: Vixens #1
NEW ONGOING SERIES! The toughest gang in Riverdale is one you’d least expect: the Vixens, led by Riverdale High’s own Betty and Veronica!

Script: Jamie L. Rotante
Art: Eva Cabrera, Elaina Unger, Rachel Deering
CVR A Reg: Eva Cabrera
CVR B Var: Robert Hack
CVR C Var: Fiona Staples
On Sale Date: 11/15
32-page, full color comic
$3.99 U.S.


Jughead: The Hunger #2
NEW ONGOING SERIES! As Jughead’s life as a fugitive grows deadlier, Betty and Archie close in—and they’re not alone. Betty’s werewolf hunter relatives’ ruthlessness may spell the end for good ol’ Jug!

Script: Frank Tieri
Art: Pat and Tim Kennedy, Matt Herms, Jack Morelli
Jughead: The Hunger #2 CVR A Reg: Adam Gorham
Jughead: The Hunger #2 CVR B Var: T. Rex
On Sale Date: 11/29
32-page, full color comic
$3.99 U.S.


Riverdale #8
Small town kids get a taste of big city life when the "core four" go to NYC for the weekend. Archie tries to keep up with Veronica's high society pals, Betty and Jughead worry that their relationship may not survive outside the bubble of their hometown, and Kevin and Cheryl don’t intend to miss out on a day of mischief in the Big Apple…

Script: Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa & Various
Art: Thomas Pitilli, Andre Szymanowicz, John Workman
CVR A Reg: CW Photo Cover – Betty
CVR B Var: CW Photo Cover – Veronica
On Sale Date: 11/22
32-page, full color comic
$3.99 U.S.


Riverdale Digest #4
See how everything led to the CW’s Riverdale TV show with this digest-sized collection featuring stories from our relaunched titles as well as classic Archie stories!

Script: Various
Art: Various
Cover: CW Photo Cover
On Sale Date: 11/8
128-page, full color comic
$6.99 U.S.


The Shield: Daughter Of The Revolution Vol. 1
Over the centuries, THE SHIELD has battled enemies of the United States—but what happens when she’s not sure who the enemy is? This graphic novel collects THE SHIELD issues 1-4.

Script: Adam Christopher, Chuck Wendig
Art: Drew Johnson, Al Barrionuevo, Greg Scott, Ray Snyder, Kelly Fitzpatrick, Rachel Deering
Cover: David Williams
ISBN-13: 978-1-61988-941-5
$14.99/$16.99CAN
6 5/8 x 10 3/16” TR
144 pp, Full Color
Direct Market On-Sale Date: 11/1


All-New Classic Archie: Your Pal, Archie! #4
After Mr. Lodge permanently bans Archie from the mansion, what happens when he finds Archie behind the wheel of his limousine? Plus, part 4 of the connecting variant cover image!

Script: Ty Templeton
Art: Dan Parent, Ty Templeton, Jack Morelli, Andre Szymanowicz
CVR A Reg: Dan Parent
CVR B Var: Les McClaine
On Sale Date: 11/15
32-page, full color comic
$3.99 U.S.


Archie Comics Double Digest #284
NEW CHRISTMAS LEAD STORY! In "One Person’s Trash…" Archie and Jughead notice some high-quality trash in the Lodge's neighborhood, so they scout the area for items they can recycle as Christmas gifts! However, their thrifty idea doesn’t win everybody over…

Script: Dan Parent
Art: Dan Parent
Cover: Bill Galvan, Rosario "Tito" Peña
On Sale Date: 10/25
192-page, full color comic
$5.99 U.S.


Archie and Me Digest #2
In the BRAND NEW holiday story "Jingles Jangle," Jingles the elf loses his holiday powers due to a spell cast by Sugarplum—so his only choice is to take up residence with Archie!

Script: Dan Parent
Art: Bill Galvan
Cover: Pat and Tim Kennedy, Bob Smith
On Sale Date: 11/22
128-page, full color comic
$6.99 U.S.


The Best of Archie Americana: Golden Age (TPR)
Since 1941, Archie and his perennial teenage friends have entertained the masses. In this sister volume to our best-selling BEST OF ARCHIE series, you'll journey the 1940s and 1950s and unearth the roots of an American institution.

Script: Various
Art: Various
Cover: George Frese
ISBN-13: 978-1-68255-932-1
$9.99/$11.99 CAN
5 1/4 x 7 1/2" TR
416 pp, Full Color
Direct Market On-Sale Date: 11/22


Betty and Veronica Halloween Annual #258
In the BRAND NEW Christmas story "The LAST Noelle," Santa's daughter Noelle wants to experience normal high school life—but if Betty & Veronica interfere, will Santa put them on his naughty list?

Script: Dan Parent
Art: Jeff Shultz
Cover: Bill Galvan, Bob Smith
On Sale Date: 11/15
160-page, full color comic
$5.99 U.S.


World of Archie Christmas Annual #73
In the festive BRAND NEW story "All Aboard," Archie wants to get his parents a model train for their holiday village display—unless his plans get derailed!

Script: Dan Parent
Art: Bill Galvan
Cover: Pat and Tim Kennedy, Bob Smith
On Sale Date: 11/1
192-page, full color comic
$6.99 U.S.

BettyReggie

Re: ARCHIE COMICS FOR NOVEMBER 2017
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 12:41:16 PM »
I have a subscription to Riverdale so I didn't preordered them. I didn't preordered the main Archie #25 . The other covers are better. I preordered both Finoa Staples issues. Both Your Pal Archie #4.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2017, 08:25:18 AM by BettyReggie »

irishmoxie

Re: ARCHIE COMICS FOR NOVEMBER 2017
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 02:37:06 PM »
Excited for a new sugar plum story and I love the Christmas digests. Boo on the Americana. We want the 60s reprinted! Why is ACP ignoring this??

DeCarlo Rules

Re: ARCHIE COMICS FOR NOVEMBER 2017
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 03:04:19 PM »
Excited for a new sugar plum story and I love the Christmas digests. Boo on the Americana. We want the 60s reprinted! Why is ACP ignoring this??

Because they're idiots? Or maybe like Gollum hoarding his "precious".

Yeah. I already bought them when they were trade paperbacks (well, the three volumes I could find out of four), and then again when IDW reprinted them as combined hardcovers.

I don't buy the Dark Horse Archie Archives, but I'm pretty sure they reprinted all the 1940s Archie stories from PEP, LAUGH, and JACKPOT, as well as from ARCHIE, too. I only bought the Jughead Archives from DH. Give it a rest with the 1940s and early 1950s already. At this rate it will be the 2030s by the time they get around to reprinting the 1960s!

But the reality is the stories are reprints of reprints of reprints of reprints (of public domain stories).


irishmoxie

Re: ARCHIE COMICS FOR NOVEMBER 2017
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2017, 08:50:27 PM »
Excited for a new sugar plum story and I love the Christmas digests. Boo on the Americana. We want the 60s reprinted! Why is ACP ignoring this??

Because they're idiots? Or maybe like Gollum hoarding his "precious".

Yeah. I already bought them when they were trade paperbacks (well, the three volumes I could find out of four), and then again when IDW reprinted them as combined hardcovers.

I don't buy the Dark Horse Archie Archives, but I'm pretty sure they reprinted all the 1940s Archie stories from PEP, LAUGH, and JACKPOT, as well as from ARCHIE, too. I only bought the Jughead Archives from DH. Give it a rest with the 1940s and early 1950s already. At this rate it will be the 2030s by the time they get around to reprinting the 1960s!

But the reality is the stories are reprints of reprints of reprints of reprints (of public domain stories).


The 1940s stories are in the public domain?

DeCarlo Rules

Re: ARCHIE COMICS FOR NOVEMBER 2017
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2017, 12:14:02 AM »
The 1940s stories are in the public domain?

Copyrights on the 1940s MLJ comics were not renewed at the appropriate times, because when the renewals were due, nobody at the time imagined that there would be any future use for those stories. This is true of a lot of the Golden Age comics. Some characters which are still owned by DC Comics, like the characters formerly published by Fawcett Comics and Quality Comics in the 1940s. Comics published in the 1940s by Fawcett, Quality, and MLJ can be found on public domain comics websites. While the copyrights to those original stories expired when they were not renewed, trademark law is different. Some of the public domain comics have been removed from those sites by request of the respective trademark holders, because lawyers will always find something to contest, and even if some of the people hosting these sites are technically well within their legal rights, they don't want or need (and can't afford) to contend with some legal harassment.


irishmoxie

Re: ARCHIE COMICS FOR NOVEMBER 2017
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2017, 01:41:01 PM »
The 1940s stories are in the public domain?

Copyrights on the 1940s MLJ comics were not renewed at the appropriate times, because when the renewals were due, nobody at the time imagined that there would be any future use for those stories. This is true of a lot of the Golden Age comics. Some characters which are still owned by DC Comics, like the characters formerly published by Fawcett Comics and Quality Comics in the 1940s. Comics published in the 1940s by Fawcett, Quality, and MLJ can be found on public domain comics websites. While the copyrights to those original stories expired when they were not renewed, trademark law is different. Some of the public domain comics have been removed from those sites by request of the respective trademark holders, because lawyers will always find something to contest, and even if some of the people hosting these sites are technically well within their legal rights, they don't want or need (and can't afford) to contend with some legal harassment.


When will the 1950s and 60s stories be in public domain? Then ACP can start publishing them cheaply.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: ARCHIE COMICS FOR NOVEMBER 2017
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2017, 04:34:05 PM »

When will the 1950s and 60s stories be in public domain? Then ACP can start publishing them cheaply.

It will be a long, long, time -- for intellectual properties created under the auspices of publishers and other media companies that still remain in business today, or whose intellectual properties have changed legal ownership by being bought or transferred to other companies. That's because copyright laws allow for more than one renewal, and the extension period covered by renewals has been lengthened in recent decades to cover a longer period of years -- thanks to the unceasing efforts of an army of legal footsoldiers working in the trenches of massive corporations like Disney Co, who stand to lose millions of dollars when their intellectual property rights are no longer exclusive, and they would then need to compete with others, to use a hypothetical example, to see which company could produce stories and/or merchandise based on the character Mickey Mouse that were more commercially successful with the consumer public. Disney Co has actively worked to change existing copyright laws so that they can hold on to their exclusive rights longer.

Or to put it more simply, it's the same realization that a collector has about comic books, as opposed to someone who merely reads them but considers them ephemeral and disposable. Yes, at one time, comic books were cheap enough entertainment that they were conveniently disposed of in the wastebin, or simply given away to anyone willing to take them. Likewise, the publishers of those ephemeral comic books never imagined that the characters and stories they were creating would be remembered or valued in any way, but would be forgotten when kids moved on to other interests. The same was true of radio dramas and early television shows. As a result many of the companies who created those copyrighted stories either weren't conspicuously aware, or just couldn't be bothered, to renew those copyrights, if they couldn't see any profit in it for them. "One man's trash is another man's treasure"...  And never more so than when that treasure is realized to represent a potential source of continuing income -- and you're not talking about one individual's nostalgia, but a corporation's lifeblood.

But I'll admit to puzzlement over your comment about public domain status somehow resulting in ACP being able to publish cheaply. "Public domain" simply means that ownership of those PD comic book stories belongs to -- the public, not any one individual or corporation. Public domain status doesn't make it cheaper for ACP to publish anything. It means, theoretically, that anyone can publish those stories, as long as they can manage to avoid legal trademark entanglements. DC or Marvel could do reprints of those 1940s MLJ comics -- if they thought they could make money doing so. But then of course, ACP would take them to court on some trademark defense ploy, if merely to occupy them with bother and legal expenses, and deter DC or Marvel from making a profit off those reprints. Warners lawyers would easily crush any legal representation ACP tried to mount, but the point is they'd try to make it annoying and costly enough that it wasn't worth DC Comics' efforts to publish the reprints. And in fact, DC's lawyers have used exactly that same tactic against small publishers (**cough, cough, AC Comics**) to "dissuade" them from using public domain characters created for Quality Comics in the 1940s (in copyrighted stories not renewed) like Phantom Lady, over which DC Comics merely claims the right of eminent domain. They SAY the character belongs to them (regardless of the truth of expired copyrights), and as such, they intend to use their legal clout to badger anyone who can't afford to stand up to their lawyers, into not creating new stories based on that character. They can't stop AC Comics from publishing Phantom Lady reprints though (or the recent hardcover archival reprints from PS Artbooks).

It baffles me why you think public domain would somehow make it "cheaper" for ACP to reprint those stories. They are getting them out there before someone else tries to do it and steal their thunder (and whatever potential customers there are). In fact, I don't exactly know the deal behind those Dark Horse Archie Archives, but Dark Horse could easily have said "Hey look, we're going to do this whether you want us to or not -- it's in the public domain, so why not just let us pay you a stipend to use the Archie trademark?" I don't know that to be a fact, but legally speaking they could have. And when they reach whatever date in the 1950s that the copyrights were renewed properly by ACP and are still protected, then Dark Horse would have to pay whatever fee ACP deems reasonable to continue reprinting Archie Archives. In fact they may already have reached that point.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2017, 05:27:25 PM by DeCarlo Rules »

 


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