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Riverdale Reviewed by Tuxedo Mark
[October 20, 2018, 08:12:44 pm]


What comics have you been reading? by rusty
[October 20, 2018, 03:04:02 pm]


What have you done today? by Archiecomicxfan215
[October 20, 2018, 01:30:34 pm]


Whew! by SAGG
[October 19, 2018, 11:55:13 pm]


Sears/Kmart by Tuxedo Mark
[October 19, 2018, 01:22:48 pm]


Miraculous Ladybug.... by DeCarlo Rules
[October 19, 2018, 01:44:10 am]


What are you currently watching? by rusty
[October 16, 2018, 09:34:22 pm]


Days we look foward to as Archie Fans. by BettyReggie
[October 16, 2018, 06:13:52 am]


New York Comic Con 2018 by BettyReggie
[October 08, 2018, 05:37:04 am]


Anachronism Patrol by DeCarlo Rules
[October 06, 2018, 11:59:27 pm]

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  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Archie's Weird Mysteries": "Invisible Archie": [link]
    October 20, 2018, 08:13:13 pm
  • BettyReggie: I bought The Riverdale 2019 Calendar at 5 Below.
    October 18, 2018, 06:58:16 pm
  • PTF: Does anyone regularly go to a gamestop? If you do, could you PM me a code for Zeraora? ...I do not have nice things where I live. I guess Wal-Mart is nice. :)
    October 18, 2018, 01:59:51 pm
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Twilite" from Archie & Friends #146-147: [link]
    October 13, 2018, 08:39:15 pm
  • Tuxedo Mark: OMG the Riverdale premiere: Cheryl is so awesome! :smitten:
    October 10, 2018, 09:18:52 pm
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "The Case of the Sorrel Roan" from Riverdale #3: [link]
    October 06, 2018, 09:43:33 pm
  • ASS-P: I read some of B&V FRIENDS #264.
    October 05, 2018, 10:16:03 pm
  • ASS-P: I read some of B&V FRJENDZ #26R
    October 05, 2018, 10:14:10 pm
  • ASS-P: I read some of B&V Frie d's #264
    October 05, 2018, 10:13:15 pm
  • BettyReggie: Those 2 Riverdale Pens came today from Hot Topic.
    October 01, 2018, 10:03:02 pm
  • BettyReggie: I read Archie #699.
    September 30, 2018, 08:34:33 pm
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of Betty and Veronica: Vixens #10: [link]
    September 30, 2018, 07:59:38 pm
  • BettyReggie: Archie #699 came today.
    September 28, 2018, 03:38:41 pm
  • Tuxedo Mark: My reviews of all four stories from betty and Veronica #270: [link] [link] [link] [link]
    September 23, 2018, 05:36:07 pm
  • DeCarlo Rules: Presumably with an ongoing B&V series, they'd want to keep it nominally in continuity with the ongoing ARCHIE title.
    September 22, 2018, 07:03:48 am
  • DeCarlo Rules: Oh, I hadn't noticed that the story is "Senior Year", so that explains it. It's a one-off story arc, just like "Freshman Year". They're not going to keep them as seniors permanently, or have them graduate and go on to college in an ongoing series.
    September 22, 2018, 06:59:24 am
  • DeCarlo Rules: Probably just a space-filler while they look for a better writer than Jaime Rotante. I hope.
    September 22, 2018, 12:08:34 am
  • Tuxedo Mark: Wait a minute. Betty and Veronica is only a five-issue miniseries?
    September 21, 2018, 08:31:21 pm
  • DeCarlo Rules: Archie Comic solicitations for October 2018: [link]
    September 21, 2018, 05:36:35 am
  • DeCarlo Rules: Check out Stadium Comics' entire line of Archie Comics RE variant covers here: [link] All are homages to famous Marvel or DC cover images.
    September 20, 2018, 09:05:41 am

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  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • Well, the questions you
  • August 24, 2018, 05:30:21 pm
  • Tuxedo Mark:
  • With New Riverdale, things kinda make more sense, overall, I guess. With Classic Archie (even new Classic Archie), I find myself often asking "Why is this even an issue?" or "Why would the teen characters even care about this?" With Riverdale, it's absolutely insane bonkers, but everyone involved is in on the joke, so it's fun to just sit back, shut off my brain, and enjoy. :)
  • August 24, 2018, 05:28:08 pm
  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • What I originally meant by "realistic" is that actors are more convincing at portraying real people on television than lines on paper and words in dialogue balloons are in a comic book.
  • August 24, 2018, 05:26:29 pm
  • Tuxedo Mark:
  • As for reading a novel, I'm not sure. I think it would take me a few hours to get through one of the Archie prose novels. Then again, I'm a fairly slow reader.
  • August 24, 2018, 05:25:01 pm
  • Tuxedo Mark:
  • Well, I breeze through a comic in a few minutes. New Riverdale issues, in particular, seem to have less overall text than Classic Archie stories. Either way, I can get through two issues of any of those comics in less time than it takes to watch one episode of the show.
  • August 24, 2018, 05:24:03 pm
  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • So now all you have to do is some math to figure out which is the best buy per entertainment hour. That would involve some estimation of how long on average it takes to read a page of a novel or a comic (assuming you're not fast-forwarding, that's not a aspect that the viewer controls for the TV or film experience). "Bonkers" is kind of vague. You could use that word to describe a lot of the classic Archie comics, but at a guess I'd surmise that Riverdale is a very different sort of "bonkers". But as you point out, if it's not, the actual realistic teen experience of high school is pretty boring, so I guess it would have to be. You may be right that New Riverdale ARCHIE is relatively more realistic in that sense -- which confirms my impression that it's more boring than a classic Archie story.
  • August 24, 2018, 05:20:05 pm
  • Tuxedo Mark:
  • As for price, I did some calculations recently and shared them on a Supergirl reddit, but they're kinda applicable here as well. digital novel: $0.01 per page, digital trade collection: $0.029 per page, digital episode (buying a season at once): $0.03 per minute, paperback novel: $0.035 per page, hardcover novel: $0.0469 per page, digital episode (buying individually): $0.047 per minute, print trade collection: $0.06875 per page, digital 1984 movie: $0.07992 per minute, Being Super monthly comic: $0.117 per page, Blu-ray 1984 movie: $0.14376 per minute, monthly comic: $0.1495 per page
  • August 24, 2018, 02:13:25 pm
  • Tuxedo Mark:
  • I wouldn't call Riverdale at all realistic. It's very deliberately bonkers. The Riverdale comic, on the other hand, seems to be way less bonkers, dealing with more mundane events before the show or between episodes of the show, and it gets cancelled. Now, New Riverdale Archie is getting retooled to be more like the show. I hope it doesn't go bonkers. I've read only the first 14 issues so far, but it seems fairly realistic, I guess. Honestly, a realistic depiction of teen life probably woould involve drinking and drug use but not too much actual drama, nor much of an ongoing storyline. Because real life doesn't have much in the way of ongoing storylines, outside of possible medical issues, unless they're manufactured.
  • August 24, 2018, 11:30:44 am
  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • That's what I don't get about the New Riverdale comics. If what someone wants is a more realistic, less cartoon interpretation of the characters, why would you buy that as a comic book, when you can just watch RIVERDALE at home, which is an even MORE realistic interpretation of those same characters? What good is a "half-way" realistic take on ARCHIE?
  • August 24, 2018, 02:38:15 am
  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • I mean, when you think about the math, it's pretty much a direct correlation. Back when comic books cost ten cents (1940s-1950s), they had ten times as many readers as they did once comics were priced at $1 (circa 1990). Now they're $4, and have on average about 1/4 as many readers as they did in 1990. Obviously competition from television was also a factor beginning in the mid-1950s, and videogames and movies beginning in the 1980s. STAR WARS-level SFX, and later CGI, made it possible to duplicate anything on video or film that previously could only be accomplished convincingly with lines drawn on paper.
  • August 24, 2018, 02:16:36 am
  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • @TM - $4 for 20 pages of story is pretty much the problem. No casual reader would consider that a reasonable entertainment value. The direct market is following a model based on pushers and junkies. Only someone who HAS to have it, a culture of consumers who've been programmed for decades to accept that as "the way things are" is willing to submit to that arrangement. The format/price point has limited the audience to an elite group of "comic book junkies". Everyone else just watches TV or goes to the movies.
  • August 24, 2018, 01:46:49 am
  • Tuxedo Mark:
  • Almost none of the floppy issues are reviewed on Amazon (some reviews say the stories are too short), and none of them sell well.
  • August 23, 2018, 11:43:48 am
  • Tuxedo Mark:
  • What I don't get is how the monthly comic is able to survive at $4 for 20 pages of story. I'm buying only one current title, B&V: Vixens. I'm also slowly getting the back issues of Riverdale as I review them for my blog (it helps that ACP finally discounted the back issues instead of charging full price). I'm buying digitally (gave up ordering physical comics in late 2016 to avoid shipping costs). I just search for images of the variant covers (if I'm interested in them) and save them to my hard drive.
  • August 23, 2018, 11:42:51 am
  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • If I missed that back in July when they solicited ARCHIE 1941 #1, I guess it must be one of those super-limited retailer exclusive variants. Which means I can't order it through my LCS and Diamond Comics, which means I'd have to order online, and it'll probably cost me somewhere in the neighborhood of $10-$20 bucks before I'm done. I'm going to just bank on the possibility that Dan will put out one of those large (logo-less) prints, which he sells at cons or online for $20. That way, more of my money actually goes into Dan's pocket, and I get a nicer, larger piece of artwork out of the deal.
  • August 23, 2018, 09:15:41 am
  • Vegan Jughead:
  • I agree with all your points, DCR. Dan does have a really cool variant cover for the first issue of the upcoming "Archie 1941" arc.
  • August 23, 2018, 07:58:37 am
  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • Another good question would be -- why is there no DAN PARENT variant of Archie #700 among the TEN variants offered? I'm forced to conclude that ACP did not consider Dan Parent's contributions to the previous 699 issues to be substantial enough to warrant any consideration of that possibility. That just plain sucks.
  • August 23, 2018, 04:16:52 am
  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • I guess what I'm trying to say is that when every single publisher out there is in the same racket of exploiting collectors' OCD tendencies with variant covers, it means that for every $4 I spend on one of those variants, it means $4 less that I have to spend on some other worthy creator's comic book which has a unique story. It's probably harder for someone who's solely focused on Archie Comics, as a publisher, to see that, because Archie Comics ALONE is not producing enough comic books even WITH all those variants, to strain anyone's budget.
  • August 23, 2018, 03:37:02 am
  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • I guess what I'm trying to say is that when every single publisher out there is in the same racket of exploiting collectors' OCD tendencies with variant covers, it means that for every $4 I spend on one of those variants, it means $4 less that I have to spend on some other worthy creator's comic book which has a unique story. It's probably harder for someone who's solely focused on Archie Comics, as a publisher, to see that, because Archie Comics ALONE is not producing enough comic books even WITH all those variants, to strain anyone's budget.
  • August 23, 2018, 03:36:49 am
  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • I want to support my favorite artists who derive part of their income from those variant covers, but it feels like an internal conflict of interest for me every single time.
  • August 23, 2018, 02:00:58 am
  • DeCarlo Rules:
  • Look, I know I'm probably not explaining myself clearly here. If you look at the solicitations from Archie Comics on any given month, and add up the average number of pages of brand-new stories published in any given month, it's an ALARMINGLY low total. That average total has been on a steady downward spiral from 20, 10, or even just 5 years ago. Good cover art is good cover art, but nobody needs 2, 4, 6, 8, or 20 copies of the same interior story. It feels like the publishers are dependent on exploiting the obsessive-compulsive personality tendencies of collectors, and feels very unhealthy for the readers and for the industry as a whole. It's also fair to say that both retailers and working comic artists are somewhat dependent on that system, and the whole thing is very troubling. I'd rather spend my money on an art book like THE ART OF ARCHIE: THE COVERS, or on buying one of those 11"x17" art prints like Dan Parent sells, if what I really want is single images of artwork. A $4 retail price JUST to get a unique cover seems like madness.
  • August 23, 2018, 01:51:29 am
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