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Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on February 23, 2017, 01:33:11 PM
I read the reboot  Reggie and Me #2.
Why is the storyline so boring? It's sad 'cause he is my favorite character but so far this  reboot is not doing it for me.

"I Can't Believe It's Tom DeFalco!"

How can he have written such good stories for traditional Archie titles over the last 5 or 10 years, yet turn out such a dud as Reggie & Me?

The third issue is much better.

Okay, I'll give it a shot.

Quote from: carrotz on February 24, 2017, 05:12:57 PM

It's better to get a cautious 60s setting than none, I guess. I wonder how reliable DC/Warner's research is, if they've decided kids will only like current settings. Kids love Disney fairy tales set in ancient times, and they loved some shows set in the 1800s; I think they would love a Kennedy era Archie if it was funny, colorful and embraced its differences, with some fantasy elements like Dilton's inventions or Sabrina's witchcraft.

Fairy tales are "a long time ago (in a galaxy far far away)", so they're not really historical, they're mythical. Kids have no real sense of history -- maybe a vague sense of something being pre-20th century, but that's about all. Maybe a few of the smarter kids care about anything to do with history, but in the main, no.

That's true of even adults writing comic books today; I can't tell you the number of times I've come across anachronistic expressions used in character dialogue in stories supposedly set in the past.

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on February 23, 2017, 01:33:11 PM
I read the reboot  Reggie and Me #2.
Why is the storyline so boring? It's sad 'cause he is my favorite character but so far this  reboot is not doing it for me.

"I Can't Believe It's Tom DeFalco!"

How can he have written such good stories for traditional Archie titles over the last 5 or 10 years, yet turn out such a dud as Reggie & Me?

Quote from: JonInIowaCity on February 24, 2017, 01:55:11 PM
Last night, I read the latest "IVX" (yay!) and "Extraordinary X-Men" & "Uncanny Avengers" (yawn...).

Marvel is generally so yawn-inducing to me these days that I have to confine my reading to just the "oddball" titles like Patsy Walker aka Hellcat and Silver Surfer. DC isn't much better, except that they publish a lot more non-DCU titles that make up the bulk of my DC reading, and for DCU titles I've got just Detective Comics, Wonder Woman, and The Death of Hawkman (one issue left). Feels like I could quit reading Detective and WW almost any time now, too, except that I'm able to borrow them.

Loving all the reading time and disposable income they're freeing up for me, though.

Quote from: carrotz on February 24, 2017, 03:47:40 PM
I would love to see a Dan DeCarlo style animated Archie movie or even TV show. It should be set in the early 60s.

I have mixed feelings about that idea. While I'm sure you and I and a few hundred other people would love it, it's almost like you're writing off the idea of a traditional-styled Archie comics animated film as something that's confined to a nostalgic (yet non-existent) past, that would have no appeal and nothing to say to the kids of today -- i.e. guaranteed to appeal only to dyed-in-the-wool Archie Comics collectors.

It gives me pause to think about it, because DC/Warner just recently made an animated film based on the 1966 Batman TV show, yet in deference to appealing to a wider audience, they specifically avoided any sort of references that would ground the film as taking place in a specific time period. In some ways that was a disappointment to me personally, yet at the same time I could see the wisdom of that decision on the part of the producers. Apart from that it's an imperfect film in a lot of ways, yet I applaud the attempt to make that version of Batman try to appeal to a wider audience.

Nothing to my knowledge -- just a handful where Archie, Jughead and Reggie have equal roles in the story. The closest thing might be B&V #271, that had a dozen or so guest appearances from just about every girl character in the Archieverse, but nothing that specifically had B&V and the Pussycats as co-stars by themselves. Then again, B&V don't spend much time hanging around with Cheryl Blossom, either -- she's their rival for Archie's attention, and now the same applies to Valerie. If you want stories that have B&V and the Pussycats together in them, you have to realize that they're nearly all Archie-centric -- the times when The Archies and The Pussycats co-starred as rivals in a battle of the bands, or toured together.



I doubt that Betty and Melody would have much in common as friends, anyway, apart from the fact that they're both blondes with sweet personalities. Betty has a wide variety of talents and interests, and Melody has... the drums. In the JOSIE comics, it's even kind of hard to make heads or tails of Melody's conversations with Josie and Valerie. It's not that Betty and Melody couldn't get along fine, but what would they really have a conversation about? They travel in different circles and don't even really have the same friends. Apart from that, I could see Betty more likely having a conversation with Valerie, who's more on the same level with her intellectually -- if they weren't already rivals over Archie.

Melody would be more likely to have a conversation with Jughead, based on a common interest in drumming, and the fact that Jughead is about the only male whose brain wouldn't short-circuit while in Melody's presence and turn him into a total spaz (BA-WOING!!) I dunno, maybe they could talk about how they once shared the same last name, Jones (until Melody changed hers to Valentine).

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Quote from: kassandralove on February 23, 2017, 11:29:36 PM
I think forums are fairly old style and it's hard to go through it but I have this app called Tapatalk and it makes everything SO much easier and it's the only way I go on here it's fast and effective


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These "old" style forums do allow people to have actual discussions beyond just the "hit and run" comments that seem so popular other places.  There's advantages to this type of site beyond "look at me, 'like' me" so common elsewhere.

Totally agree, Steve. I have zero interest in posting 140-character shout-outs, so I've never had a Facebook account, and probably never will.

Quote from: carrotz on February 24, 2017, 12:44:23 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 24, 2017, 12:32:51 AM
Voice actors. If there's an Archie movie, it should be an animated movie. Traditional cel animation, not CGI.

You mean like Disney, or like anime?

It should look like neither -- it should look like Archie Comics' traditional style, a Montana/Lucey/DeCarlo/Parent fusion, as different from the current comics and live action Riverdale TV show as possible, but be contemporary in terms of current technology, fashion, and cultural references. I hate that film animation tends to be viewed as having to be confined to the 2 most well-recognized styles. The technology to make it happen is the same. The only thing preventing something like that from happening would be people who say "we can't"... or "we don't want to".

Do I think anything like that has a real chance of happening? No, it's pretty unlikely... but we're just playing the wishing game here, so why not shoot for the ideal.

Voice actors. If there's an Archie movie, it should be an animated movie. Traditional cel animation, not CGI.

Quote from: irishmoxie on February 23, 2017, 09:22:22 PM

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Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 22, 2017, 02:15:45 PM
All of the new 5-page lead stories in the digest titles have had a monthly theme for the last 3 solicitations. The March digests all feature "storybook" tales, April's digests have an "international" theme, and May's digests all have a musical theme. I wonder what they're thinking with this? I suppose those 5-page themed stories could add up to a single floppy comic if they wanted to reprint them, but that seems really unlikely. I guess maybe they're hoping it will encourage a few people to buy every digest title that month, if they didn't normally get them them all?

Exactly I'm more interested in getting all the titles those months when I usually don't. Especially international and musical.

Even though low sales leading to the cancellation of Archie with #666, and B&V with #278 in 2015 demonstrates that the idea of a floppy comic reprinting the new Dan Parent 5-page lead stories from the digests probably isn't workable, ACP could still possibly offer a series of one-shots (or maybe an ongoing series) as a digital exclusive, collecting those new lead digest stories. Maybe an ongoing DE under the umbrella title of CLASSIC ARCHIE would generate some interest in digital subscriptions (or possibly even garner a few new all-access subscribers for Archie Digital). There are a lot of people who might not want to buy a whole $4.99-$7.99 digest issue just to get the one new 5-page lead story if they didn't care for the selection of reprinted stories that might buy something like that.

They did this for all the 2015 lead stories.

I remember that, but it was a single collection with all of 2015's new lead stories... and I'm not sure it was entirely clear from the description exactly how that collection differed from other digital exclusive collections. Apparently they didn't do a similar one for 2016.

I was thinking more like a series of digital singles, where they made it clear where the stories were coming from and that there would be a new one every month, and they could offer it for maybe $2 for four 5-page stories. Now that the new lead digest stories have a monthly theme to them, it sort of makes sense.

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on February 23, 2017, 01:28:32 PM
I can't remember, is the op of this thread the same person who got mad at us because we wouldn't post 24 hours a day?She was logged in all day and expected us to do the same. She got pissed off and said she was never coming back again. Maybe it was another person, can't remember.

I think you might be thinking of Midge. She seemed excited to discover that an Archie fan forum existed, and posted a lot for a little while, but then quickly became disillusioned when there wasn't enough daily activity to meet her level of enthusiasm.

I'd love to see Trula take a crack at sorting out the whole Moose/Midge/Reggie thing. By which I actually mean Midge.

Once upon a time, things used to be simple. Regardless of how different each member was in terms of their attitudes, outlooks, lifestyle and interests, they could all agree that they enjoyed reading Archie Comics.

Not so anymore. ACP is responsible for fractionating its traditional fanbase. You've got the people who like everything the company publishes, and you've got the people who don't like Archie Action titles, who don't like Dark Circle titles (still... none of those feature the traditional Archie characters).

Then you've got the people who don't particularly like LIFE WITH ARCHIE; the ones who don't like AFTERLIFE WITH ARCHIE and CHILLING ADVENTURES OF SABRINA; the people who don't like New Riverdale comics (and the people who may only like one of the New Riverdale comics); and the people who don't like RIVERDALE the TV series. And of course the people who do, and the people who only like a couple of the aforementioned. Also a few newer people coming in who only like the newer New Riverdale and/or Archie Horror titles. So really there's no common consensus anymore for a fanbase.

Sonic the Hedgehog #290 (the only other still-published title besides Sonic Universe) sold 5501 copies (about halfway between what Jughead and Reggie & Me are selling currently) in comic shops in December 2016. For comparative purposes, Sonic the Hedgehog was selling in the 11k-12k range back in 2013, about as good as Archie is doing right now.