Quote from: DeCarlo RulesWell, terrence surprised me. Nobody really seems to mention anything about the comedy in any of their posts, and invisifan seems to be praising it for the qualities most diametrically opposed to that... grounded, reality-based, continuity-driven etc., all the things you'd associate with drama. He wants to keep the fantasy out of it, because that would seem to spoil any grounded, realistic, dramatic suspension of disbelief for him (and yet, he reads superhero comics, and they have the fantasy element, generally without comedy). I guess outright slapstick comedy would spoil the grounded realism as well. People seem to be liking it specifically for the drama/continuity, unless I'm completely misreading people's comments. I don't mind seeing a little bit of that thrown in here and there just for the sake of contrast and to break things up a little, but it's not what I read Archie Comics for. It was okay just for LIFE WITH ARCHIE, I guess, because the whole point of that was everything about it was different from the 'standard' Archie comic as possible. (Just like AFTERLIFE, the whole point is to contrast against the usual.)To be honest, I think LWA could have dialed back the angsty-ness a couple notches and thrown in a comedy bit or two now and then, just to remind people it actually was an Archie Comic. But then again, it wasn't a mainstream Archie comic book, or pretending to be one.
Yes i know but i still think that the liveaction archie should be a sitcom or a tween sitcom and be faithful to the element of the source material comedy.and i agree about life with archie the married life spinoff but i think it should remain as a dramatic spinoff with some little laughs.
Quote from: invisifanSitcoms on TV are on a decline — the ones that make it aren't as mundane as Archie seems after 75 years ... and as for more general "teen" shows, "Glee" and "High School Musical" showed they can work, but also sucked the air out of the room as far as competition — they also showed it's far to easy to overdo it, or do it wrong, so no one wants to try.
Actually sitcoms are still working heck look at the big bang theory for example even tween sitcoms.
Quote from: invisifan@DCR — I'm saying it needs a consistent feel — throwing in actual magic stuff ruins the feel they are trying for, comedy wouldn't do that — there's already some in there, and it could be cranked up quite a bit and be enjoyable ... but it should be grounded in reality since that's the tone they've set; if you want a magic/fantasy/superhero series, start a new comic in another Archiverse like they have for ChAoS & AWA
That is true since archie after the forties begin to go surreal. with magic/fantasy and superhero stuff
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules lSitcoms on TV are on a decline — the ones that make it aren't as mundane as Archie seems after 75 years ... and as for more general "teen" shows, "Glee" and "High School Musical" showed they can work, but also sucked the air out of the room as far as competition — they also showed it's far to easy to overdo it, or do it wrong, so no one wants to try. @DCR — I'm saying it needs a consistent feel — throwing in actual magic stuff ruins the feel they are trying for, comedy wouldn't do that — there's already some in there, and it could be cranked up quite a bit and be enjoyable ... but it should be grounded in reality since that's the tone they've set; if you want a magic/fantasy/superhero series, start a new comic in another Archiverse like they have for ChAoS & AWA
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules lI know Mark Waid had previous experience doing a few Archie stories way back when ("Moose!" and one or two others I've seen reprinted), but it's curious to me why ACP didn't just hire someone 'big name' that had a previous track record of putting a lot of humor/comedy into their scripts (at least, on some of their work... I've read a LOT of Waid's stuff, and never really picked up on much comedy in any of the series I've read by him). I'm thinking of somebody like Dan Slott over at Marvel (and of course, they're not going to get Dan Slott, but someone like him, and there are more than a few people like that working in mainstream comics). So I have to believe that wasn't any sort of primary consideration on ACP's part. Maybe if someone like Rex Lindsey was drawing Waid's scripts they'd at least come across as funnier. I'm not too interested in a rom-com or whatever the current subgenre thing is now. I really only have the vaguest idea of what that really is. It's not a genre I've ever really followed."Sitcom" punctuated with a good dose of slapstick now and then is really what I want from an Archie comic. But that can be like in a TV series like Community, Parks and Recreation, 30 Rock, something like that. That and cute girls, but not just "good girl art" of the Adam Hughes type. I mean sexy/cartoony/cute/innocent type girls, like... maybe something like the Bruce Timm/Darwyn Cooke style.
As i said before sitcoms are running and are still good but in different formats sometimes without laugh tracks and sometimes set in a real environment in a different setting rather than the traditional sitcom formats when we were young. and yes i think that romance will be included since it always happened in every archie comic stories.
Quote from: irishmoxieThe new Riverdale comic/Archie reboot reads like a YA novel with all the "teen" slang and angst. There are moments of comedy in there but it's mostly in the art, not the dialogue i.e. Archie setting ice cream on fire, Archie being flattened by a bulldozer. The Riverdale TV show feels a lot like The OC (with the new Betty being Marissa) and a little of Dawson's Creek (with the whole dating your teacher thing).
Yeah i agree so i think the live action archie should be a comedy and be faithful to the comedic element of the source material with a little bit of drama like how scrubs did with special episodes about teenage problems or maybe at least be disney channel/nickelodeon tween sitcom.
Quote from: invisifanRomantic comedy — more of a movie genre really, not one that's normally sustained over a long term ...
Well i think that the romantic genre should be included since it's also the element of archie comics with the love triangle part even though it goes on repetitive all over the years and made it maximum with the 'harem' part
Quote from: invisifanIs the Darwyn Cooke reference coincidental? You know he died literally yesterday
Quote from: DeCarlo RulesI had not heard. He will be sorely missed. The comics industry needed more talents of his caliber. I would consider him one of the most serious cartoonists of this generation.And I'd forgotten about Waid doing THE FOX momentarily. Now that I think about it that was funnier than the Archie reboot, but Waid's role in that was somewhat different. The Fox is really Dean Haspiel's brainchild (although Waid was a sounding board that he bounced his ideas off). Waid would then come in after Haspiel "wrote" the visual story, and add his dialogue and captions. So Haspiel is Kirby here, and Waid is Lee... In other words, the genesis of each issue did not begin with Waid sending Haspiel a script to draw from. Haspiel's written some of his own stuff in the past, so he's (at least) co-writer on THE FOX, although not the dialoguer.
Yeah he will truly be missed
he maybe a great artist for dc comics known for his 50's style artwork but at least he did a variant cover for the fox comic 
but there is something that bothers me 