Quote from: SAGG on September 02, 2016, 06:06:51 PM
Revisiting this topic. I actually like seeing the (current) origins of these characters by putting them all together or tying them together somehow, and their being affected by the same sinister threat. Anybody else getting this comic?

It's my favorite DC comic right now. I can't believe we got an entire Birdman story by Steve Rude in issue #3!

Finished TRITON OF THE SEA by Osamu Tezuka VOL 2 TP.

Or what if the zombies (being notoriously poor nuclear engineers) cause a meltdown at the Riverdale Nuclear Power Plant just as Super Duck arrives, he gets irradiated, and turns into a rampaging (that's normal for him) radioactive giant Duckzilla?

Well then, let me be the first to call dibs on the reintroduction of Bingo Wilkin (or possibly Wilbur Wilkin) as a werewolf in some future issue. 

Quote from: BettyReggie on September 01, 2016, 07:23:52 PM
I remember one story when Archie had a fake earring on. And everyone thought he looked so cool. Reggie was jealous of Archie. Reggie went to get both ears piereced. And next day Reggie saw that Archie had no earring in his ears. Reggie was really mad about it.

That's like the one where Archie decides that the shaved-head look is the new thing, but he's hesitant so he gets a fake rubber scalp piece and just wears that. Reggie sees Archie, and doesn't want to let him get the jump on him by being the trendiest, so he goes straight to the barber and gets his head shaved. Then it turns out that whatever girl it was that Archie was trying to impress is over her infatuation with the skinhead look, so he ditches the bald wig a day or two later, and Reggie's stuck with a shaved head. I think there was another similar story where B&V both got their hair styled short, so Archie and Reggie went and grew their hair long, but the girls laughed, so they went the opposite way and got crew-cuts, which the girls hated too, but of course they were stuck with them.

The funniest stories usually have something to do with Archie coming up with some scheme to impress or get a date with some new girl, which backfires on him, or scheming a way to date some girl without Betty or Veronica knowing about it, then the plan backfires in such a way that both B&V find out and are furious with him, and he never even got to date the new girl anyway. Those are the best, when Archie gets some kind of karmic payback for being a devious little weasel. This is just a good bare-bones skeletal plot on which to hang an Archie short. Depending on the length of the story, some additional comedy can be milked from the situation by involving Jughead as Archie's accomplice and collaborator in whatever mad, convoluted scheme Archie has cooked up. Jughead's involvement pretty much always follows the same rules for his character:  1) Jughead feels morally obligated to register his protest to this incredibly bad idea of Archie's, and insist that he doesn't want to be part of it.  2) Archie begs, pleads, wheedles, and Jughead gives in, because as his best friend, he feels beholden to comply with Archie's requests against his better judgement. Of course, before embarking, Jughead is also obligated by his conscience to attempt to sway Archie by pointing out what an incredibly stupid idea it is, and that no good can come of it. Archie remains unmoved by this attempt to appeal to his sanity as always.  3) Jughead can now stand by with a certain detachment, as he knows exactly how things are going to play out, having been through this same basic routine, with variations, dozens of times.  4) At every stage of the plot development along the way, Jughead feels obligated to point out again how bad and stupid an idea this is, and request that Archie just abandon the whole scheme -- but this doesn't abrogate his responsibility (as his best friend) to comply with Archie's wishes, and he's resigned to play his little role and watch it play out in the end, exactly the way he knows it will.  5) At the end of the story, Archie's far worse off than before he got himself into this situation, but Jughead doesn't feel the need to remind Archie that he told him so, because he knows it will happen all over again the next time Archie gets some crazy idea stuck in his head. Even though it sounds really formulaic to lay it all out like that, I never tire of this kind of story, and the simple variation of details on top of this basic skeleton keeps it interesting, and always satisfying and funny at the conclusion.

Hard to say. Probably Life With Kevin, if it ever gets a print version and I read it. Of the remainder, I have a high level of curiosity regarding the upcoming Sabrina story appearing in JUGHEAD beginning with issue #9 (next week), but like Steve said, it's too early to have any real perspective on these titles, with too few issues having come out (and creative teams still changing all the time). Ask again after the youngest of those titles has a track record of 12 issues, and you'll get a completely different set of answers, I'll bet. Overall, if I weren't already immersed in the comic shop culture, I doubt I'd bother with any of these. But they're there and I don't have to go out of my way to find them, and they're still new enough that curiosity is a big factor. I like Sabrina and Josie, and probably would have preferred a (non-horror) title starring either one of them, drawn by Derek Charm. Lost interest in ARCHIE after reading issue #2, so that's one off my list. Wasn't super-interested in B&V #1 either, but I'll give it one or two more at least before writing it off, and who knows who they'll get to follow Adam Hughes... that could change the book completely. I think someone told me that Hughes was only contracted for 3 issues. JUGHEAD still seems like the one with the most potential, more so since Derek Charm was added as artist, but who knows if that will even last more than one story arc.

Quote from: irishmoxie on August 31, 2016, 07:37:00 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 31, 2016, 09:19:27 AM
CRIME AND PUNISHMENT by Osamu Tezuka (adapted from Fyodor Dostoyevsky) TP
BRAVE DAN by Osamu Tezuka TP
TRITON OF THE SEA by Osamu Tezuka VOL 1 TP
ATOMCAT by Osamu Tezuka TP
ASTONISHING ANT-MAN #11
AFTERLIFE WITH ARCHIE #10
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES UNIVERSE #1
DUCK AVENGER #0
HOWARD THE DUCK #10 (of 11)
SILVER SURFER #6 (#200)
FUTURE QUEST #4
PREDATOR VS. JUDGE DREDD VS. ALIENS #2
WORLD OF TANKS #1
TANK GIRL: 2 GIRLS 1 TANK #4 (of 4)
TRITON OF THE SEA by Osamu Tezuka TP - 1st 86 pages (of 432 pages)
ROM #1 & 2
MICKEY MOUSE: SHORTS SEASON ONE #2 (of 4)

No Betty and Veronica #2?

Nope. JUGHEAD #9 will be out next week (hoping that the combination of Derek Charm and Sabrina's charm adds up to something magical), and hopefully I'll get my copy of the B&V GIRLS RULE trade collection. I'll have to review which recent digests I'm still missing copies of. At least ARCHIE BACK TO SCHOOL ANNUAL #271, possibly others.

Quote from: Tuxedo Mark on August 31, 2016, 01:24:43 PM
Incidentally, in the October solicits, Archie Comics touts a "new" story written by Tom DeFalco and written by Pat and Tim Kennedy and a "brand new" story written by Paul Kupperberg and drawn by the Kennedys:

http://archiecomics.com/october-2016-solicitations/

There's nothing inherently deceptive in those solicitations if by "new" they mean "1st publication". Despite however long a story may have been sitting on the shelf, it's still "new" if no one has read it before, even if it was written and drawn a few years ago.

CRIME AND PUNISHMENT by Osamu Tezuka (adapted from Fyodor Dostoyevsky) TP
BRAVE DAN by Osamu Tezuka TP
TRITON OF THE SEA by Osamu Tezuka VOL 1 TP
ATOMCAT by Osamu Tezuka TP
ASTONISHING ANT-MAN #11
AFTERLIFE WITH ARCHIE #10
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES UNIVERSE #1
DUCK AVENGER #0
HOWARD THE DUCK #10 (of 11)
SILVER SURFER #6 (#200)
FUTURE QUEST #4
PREDATOR VS. JUDGE DREDD VS. ALIENS #2
WORLD OF TANKS #1
TANK GIRL: 2 GIRLS 1 TANK #4 (of 4)
TRITON OF THE SEA by Osamu Tezuka VOL 2 TP - 1st 86 pages (of 432 pages)
ROM #1 & 2
MICKEY MOUSE: SHORTS SEASON ONE #2 (of 4)

Quote from: Tuxedo Mark on August 30, 2016, 03:38:34 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 30, 2016, 03:10:04 PM
When I spoke to Dan Parent a couple of weeks ago, he confirmed that he is indeed the only artist left doing new classic Archie stories for ACP. The stories described in solicitations as "lead" (but not as "new") may either have appeared somewhere before, or been completed some time ago and were part of an inventory of stories that haven't appeared elsewhere prior to their recent digest appearances.

So, at Grand Comics Database, if a story is credited solely to Dan Parent in a recent digest, and it doesn't have a reprint note, it's probably new, right?

I didn't think to ask him about this specifically, but I get the impression that there isn't any backlog of inventoried stories that Dan Parent drew which haven't seen print to this point. I think you can safely assume that the Dan Parent lead stories seen in the digests in the last couple of years are his most recent work. I think I would have noticed in the solicitations if they failed to describe one of DP's lead stories as 'new', so I don't think that's happened yet. The Kennedy brothers stories you're still seeing appear as the leads in digests this year since April/May or so are inventory stories, and those of a few other artists.

I haven't seen a digest lead story that I can recall having read somewhere before so far, but that's fairly meaningless, given that I have a pretty incomplete collection of Archie Comics from the 5 or 10 years preceding 2014. Seeing as how issues from that same time period are only randomly indexed at GCD, I don't know how you'd tell for sure if the non-DP stories represented their first appearance in print, or a reprint, unless you could remember having read it before, or point to a specific issue where it had appeared previously. Added to that, there's no real way of estimating how big an inventory of unpublished material ACP might still have on hand, or exactly how far back those stories might go, in terms of when they were written and drawn. So if a digest solicitation text doesn't describe the lead story as "new", then what exactly does that mean -- it's been published before, or maybe just that it was written & drawn some time ago, but never published before?

When I spoke to Dan Parent a couple of weeks ago, he confirmed that he is indeed the only artist left doing new classic Archie stories for ACP. The stories described in solicitations as "lead" (but not as "new") may either have appeared somewhere before, or been completed some time ago and were part of an inventory of stories that haven't appeared elsewhere prior to their recent digest appearances.

I saw conflicting sources on those two episodes, so after watching the two, I just took my best guess as to which was correct. And it is indeed UG, and not UP, "at the Bat".

Quote from: Fernando Ruiz on August 29, 2016, 10:11:02 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 29, 2016, 09:44:21 AM

That always seemed like a particularly weird fashion statement to me. Lederhosen and a little alpine hat. What possible explanation could you give for that? Did he have another job as part of the Disney "cast members" for the Disneyland Matterhorn ride?

I was always partial to lederhosen Superduck myself.


I always thought the lederhosen was part of the attempt to make Supes more along the lines of Donald Duck. When Supes gets his lederhosen, he also gets a cute nephew and a fiery self-destructive temper ala Donald. I figured the lederhosen was an arbitrary fashion choice much like Donald's sailor suit.

Donald Duck had the sailor suit in his first appearance in a Mickey Mouse cartoon "The Wise Little Hen". In that first one, he played a flute to annoy everyone, and more or less acted like a mischievous brat (it was basically just a bit role), so it seems like the character was initially conceived of as an annoying smart-alecky kid. That was actually something parents used to dress little kids in, back in the 1910s and 1920s, little sailor suits. The other reason a cartoon duck would have a sailor suit is that it's a visual metaphor for the old adage "like a duck to water", even though you never saw Donald swimming around in a pond like a duck or anything. Anyway, the sailor suit just stuck.

I don't know, maybe Super Duck was a Swiss immigrant, or he had a thing for mountain-climbing or something. He could have just kept the cape and SD monogrammed shirt. It was just as arbitrary as the name "Super Duck", after he was no longer doing anything super. The name used to drive me wacky for the longest time, before I ever saw the early stories where he actually WAS super. Actually, there's something a little bit "alternative comix"-seeming about the idea of an anthropomorphic duck just walking around in a cape and monogrammed shirt and calling himself Super Duck, but otherwise just living an ordinary life with a regular job and mundane day-to-day problems like everyone else, and no one ever remarking on the name or the way he dresses. I mean, it's a toss-up as to which would be more surreal in real life, someone just walking around doing mundane things while wearing some kind of super-costume or wearing lederhosen, so if no one's going to bat an eye at his wearing lederhosen, then why not a cape and monogrammed shirt?

Quote from: JonInIowaCity on August 29, 2016, 08:57:12 AM
Good catch with Super Duck, DeCarlo. I have to say that I prefer him in lederhosen than tights!

That always seemed like a particularly weird fashion statement to me. Lederhosen and a little alpine hat. What possible explanation could you give for that? Did he have another job as part of the Disney "cast members" for the Disneyland Matterhorn ride?

What the duck??

I just found a list I made of the Sabrina cartoons a while back. I don't think I ever made a complete list of the Archie cartoons, but I hope this helps.

The Archie Comedy Hour (1969-70)
1.   The Fairy Godmother
2.   Hiccups
3.   Which Witch is Which?
4.   The Basketball Game
5.   Will the Real Weatherbee Stand Up?
6.   Caveman
7.   Paint Story
8.   Aunt Zelda's Broom
9.   Cinderella Story
10.   What the Hex Going On?
11.   Wishbone
12.   Babysitter
13.   Carnival
14.   Stage Fright
15.   Pet Show
16.   Funny Bunny
17.   Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow
18.   A Witch in Time
19.   When the Cat's Away
20.   Costume Party
21.   Let's Have a Hand for Jughead
22.   The New Freeway
23.   Blue Whale
24.   Football Game
25.   Town Beautiful
26.   Horse's Mouth
27.   Birdman of Riverdale
28.   Hoedown Showdown
29.   Spooky Spokes
30.   You Oughta Be in Pictures
31.   The Generation Flap
32.   School Daze

Sabrina and the Groovie Goolies (1970-71)
1.   Ug at the Bat
2.   Computerized Moose
3.   Rose-Colored Glasses
4.   Living Dolls
5.   Cake Bake
6.   Hot Rod Derby
7.   The Bear Facts
8.   Child Care
9.   Witches Golf Open
10.   Rummage Sale
11.   High School Drop-Ins
12.   Big Deal
13.   Frankie
14.   Beached
15.   Ouch
16.   Smog
17.   Dirty Pool
18.   The Grayed Outdoors
19.   Short Changed
20.   Mis-Guided Tour
21.   That Old Track Magic
22.   Moose's Alter-Falter
23.   Mortal Terror
24.   Weather or Not
25.   Flying Sorcery
26.   Too Many Cooks
27.   Ambrose's Amulet
28.   Auto-Biography
29.   Tragic Magic
30.   A Nose for News

The New Archie and Sabrina Hour (1977)
1.   Alter Ego / French Deception
2.   Goolie Sitter / Dilton's Invention
3.   Cliché Castle / Carlos' Cool Caper
4.   Witch Picnic / The Talent Show
5.   Moose on the Loose / Weatherbee-Fuddled
6.   Pot Luck / TV Witch Watchers
7.   Funny Paper Caper / Chimp Gone Ape
8.   Teenage Grundy / Talent Test
9.   Talking Bird / All Washed Up
10.   Merlin's Story / A Colorful Experience
11.   Teenie the Terror / The Last Windup
12.   Cartoonie Loonie / Bon Appetite
13.   Party Pooper / Funhouse