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#166
More to add:

Veronica #204 Mr. Lodge mentions Mrs. Lodge is away visiting Veronica's Aunt Latisha.
Betty & Veronica #1 - Betty's Uncle Oscar is shown in the story as a circus clown and he gives Betty his car.
#167
All About Archie / Re: Riverdale Reviewed
September 29, 2016, 12:20:05 AM
Did Dilton ever appear in the New Archie's cartoon?  I was wondering as well about the introduction of Eugene who seemed to replace Dilton as TuxedoMark mentions.  I know Eugene was in the comic book, but not sure if he ever appeared with Dilton in the comics.
#168
For me it's got to be Salem.  I sort of like Cousin Ambrose as well.  The others always just seemed like they were there only to help the particular story along, Harvey included. Della may have been the most interesting of the other witches to me.  :P
#169
Quote from: BettyReggie on September 27, 2016, 08:06:41 PM
I read these books for 12 minutes
1-B & V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest #233
2-B & V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest #250
3-Betty & Veronica Comics Double Digest #235
4- Betty & Veronica Halloween Annual #237
5-Archie Jumbo Comics Digest #266
When it comes to the digests and their short, random stories, why not just read through one for an hour instead of five for twelve minutes each?

Inquiring minds want to know.  ???
#170
Quote from: achernar on September 27, 2016, 06:19:12 AM
Who are your least liked characters in the Archie universe?

Here's mine

1. Jughead - Lazy, Moocher, Glutton, pretty much a useless person in the real life society
I have a difficult time ascribing the term "useless" to someone who is only sixteen(?), attending High School, isn't committing crimes or truly hurting anyone.  He's repeatedly shown his loyalty as a friend, is wholly accepting of others for the most part(Veronica may be a sticking point here, but Jug's motivation I've always believed is to protect Archie, his best pal), and can always be counted on to help out even if burger bribes are needed. 

I'd rather have Jughead around in "real life society" as a teenager than I would Moose(for example) wherein my friends and I would suffer countless beatings and live in fear when we weren't on the receiving end of Moose's rage.

Quote2. Kevin Keller - I don't like token characters
3. Raj Patel - Same reason as number 2. In my opinion, Archie comics really went downhill when they added more token characters like them in 2000s.
I can't really consider Kevin a token character per se.  Maybe initially as he was seemingly created to be "Look, a gay character in Archie comics!  We're so inclusive and edgy here in Mamoroneck.  Buy our comics!", but Dan Parent wrote some good stories incorporating Kevin into the fabric of Riverdale, particularly Kevin's relationships with Veronica and Jughead.

I think Kevin has since developed a fan base for reasons beyond his just being gay during his stint in the Veronica comic and his solo series.

As for Raj and the new kids 60sBettyandReggie refers to, these are about as close to "token" as it comes.  Oohh...Sheila's Asian and works for a fashion magazine...Chloe and her interesting eyewear will show Betty a thing or two about school newspaper reporting...Vic(or Vincent) is the new guy who is Moose's equal in athletics(and being physically threatening)...the kid with long hair(gotta' have one of those) who's a practical joker...Tony Topaz wears a quirky hat because she's so cool(and quirky) and can outeat Jughead(girls can eat like pigs, too, kids!)...

I don't really dislike any of these characters, but I'm more neutral.  They seem more like one-off characters we'd see in years past, but they've shown up in more than one story(to demonstrate how their unique trait(s) makes Riverdale a melting pot of people and cultures, or appear as part of the background.  The inclusion of these characters seems to only serve the publisher, not the individual stories.

Any characters I tend to dislike are versions, like post 60's L'il Jinx, the current Ethel or the "skatepunk" period Jughead with his new hair, baseball cap, and long forgotten skater friends(tokens).

:tickedoff:
#171
I like the idea of Cheryl going to Pembrooke.  I think separate schools help to create a needed distance in the sense of Veronica and Cheryl's having unique social circles.  If Cheryl attended RHS there'd be too much overlap in their friends, acquaintances, and extra ciricular activities to keep the competitive and adversarial nature of their relationship interesting and fresh.
#172
All About Archie / Re: Wow, Archie has over 25000 stories!
September 27, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
Quote from: achernar on September 26, 2016, 10:21:57 PM
Were all stories from every 32 or 48 page archie comics from 60s t0 2000s reprinted in the digests?
My first instinct is to say "no", although I'm not sure what all was reprinted in tbe 70's digests. There were somewhere in the neighborhood of 110-112 digests published in the 70's, so ACP could have reprinted a huge chunk of the 60's material during that time.  When I really started paying attention to what was being reprinted it seems like the lion's share comes from the 90's and 80's(in that order), and that continues to this day.
#173
All About Archie / Re: "Betty Cooper, Betty Cooper!"
September 25, 2016, 08:07:37 PM
Quote from: achernar on September 25, 2016, 07:59:38 PM
Who is the artist for this?
Stan Goldberg with Jon D'Agostino(inks).
#174
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 24, 2016, 11:38:00 AM
Quote from: steveinthecity on September 24, 2016, 04:03:39 AM
I can think of at least two appearances of Grandma Cooper.  In one I read not long ago Grandma Cooper lives in Riverdale and Archie and Jug tag along with Betty as she is delivering a basket of food to her grandmother.  For whatever reason Grandma Cooper leaves the house and Jughead steals the food basket.  I'll have to take a look for where that story appeared.

Wasn't there a story where Betty's grandmother has a farm, and the gang goes there to visit? (But of course, she has more than one, so that doesn't conflict with your Grandma Cooper.) Or was that Jughead's Granny? Or maybe that was something from the Filmation cartoon Archie, it's just a vague recollection.
The farm story rings a bell.  Was it a ranch-type farm where the gang rode horses?

Also, for anyone keeping score at home, please recall that Archie's Grandfather appeared in the very first Archie story in Pep #22. I hadn't seen that mentioned.
#175
I can think of at least two appearances of Grandma Cooper.  In one I read not long ago Grandma Cooper lives in Riverdale and Archie and Jug tag along with Betty as she is delivering a basket of food to her grandmother.  For whatever reason Grandma Cooper leaves the house and Jughead steals the food basket.  I'll have to take a look for where that story appeared.

EDIT: Ok, I have part of the story incorrect.  The story is "Changing Times" from Jughead #187(v. 1).  After Reggie and Jug learn Betty is taking a basket of treats to her Grandmother, Reggie runs ahead to get there before either Betty or Jug arrive.  Reggie tells Grandma Cooper "there's a big sale at Crenshaw's Department Store" so Granny heads to the sale leaving Reggie in the house.  He considers wearing one of Grandma's outfits in order to fool Betty when she arrives, but ultimately just decides to wait.  Betty then arrives with the basket and engages in some apparent horseplay with Reggie until Jughead shows up and absconds with the basket.  There's a few Little Red Riding Hood references and jokes made throughout the story.
#176
One thing that will eventually go by the wayside is Archie or Betty fixing their own car.  Maybe Archie will hang on to that 80's Ford for a few more decades, but newer cars don't really lend themselves to a regular gearhead getting under the hood with a rag and some wrenches to do a tune up or troubleshoot a problem.  The toolbox of yesterday is becoming obsolete as cars become more sophisticated.

Another disappearing gadget is the iPod as people more and more use tablets or smartphones to listen to or view the same media. Heck, it seems just like yesterday the Archie art department was redrawing Walkman's, cd players, and editing word balloons to the "new" iPods and MP3 players before reprinting those ancient 80's and 90's stories in the digests.

Also, not really a "couldn't", but more of a "won't" is showing the adult male characters smoking, whether pipe, cigar, or cigarette.

Another "won't" I've thought about is the lack of cartoon violence shown or implied since maybe the 90's(?).  On a whole, are our societies that much more peaceful now than in the 50's and 60's when our cartoon characters were beating on each other, being filled with buckshot, having rocks or anvils landing on their heads, fired from cannons, falling off cliffs, or the neighborhood dog biting off a chunk of their posterior?
#177
Kull The Conqueror #8 (1973)
Len Wein-script/John & Marie Severin-art
While lost in a stormy sea, Kull and his followers are shipwrecked on an island believed to be inhabited by the "Cult Of The Leopard". A self-contained story including mysterious murders, villager rebellion, a mad ruler-type, lycanthropy, and swordplay.  All in all a pretty decent representation of the Sword and Sorcery genre in early 70's comics.
Ad pick: "Train at home to be a veterinary assistant". Training can lead to a career as a Lab Aide, Kennel Owner, or as a ZooKeeper!

Rawhide Kid #143 (1977)
Story and art by Larry Lieber
Reprints Rawhide Kid #45 and tells the origin of the Kid.  We also meet his previously unknown two brothers.  Simplistic, but entertaining backstory.
Ad pick: "Poster Bonanza"!  For only $2 you get five full color posters featuring such 70's idols as KISS, Hardy Boys, Farrah Fawcett, Grizzly Adams, Baretta, etc.
Hostess Ad: "Thor In The Ding-A-Ling Family". Hillbillies in a trailer floating randomly through Asgardian orbit encounter Thor and his allies.  As one hillbilly is about to bring down Thor with his "Atomic Shotgun" Sif distracts the baddie with delicious Hostess fruit pies. The drama now averted, Volstagg in a wildly out of character moment suggests they bring the remaining fruit pies back to Odin(rather than eat the snacks himself).

Rawhide Kid #144 (1977)
Story and Pencils - Larry Lieber, inks- George Roussos.  Reprints a story from RK #112.  Run of the mill western fare.  Single young woman is approached by the local baddie to sell her ranch, she refuses, bad guy starts killing her ranch hands.  A spurned romantic advance and several gunfights follow with the bad guy eveventually getting put down and the young woman agreeing to marry the gunslinger that helped Kid save her ranch. A back up story from Two Gun Kid #68 by Stan Lee and Jack Keller had an interesting twist ending.
Ad pick: Heroes World selling a "Marvel Collector's Set" for $5.50 post paid that consisted of 2001 #1, What If #1, Black Panther #1, Red Sonja #2, and Peter Parker #3.

Hostess Ad: "Spider-Man Spoils A Snatch".  While out with MJ (as Pete), Spidey foils an unnamed villain who's projected multiple images of himself during a museum jewel robbery to confuse onlookers.  The quick thinking Spidey tosses delicious devil's food chocolate cupcakes on the floor to draw out the real villain who can't resist the temptation to eat the snacks.

Chili #22 (1973)
Indicia shows copyright date from '69, so these are apparently all reprints.  Five short stories by Stan Lee and Stan Goldberg plus one uncredited single page strip.  The usual Chili fare with Chili trying to outsmart or one-up her rival Millie with her efforts often backfiring.  I find the later Chili's mostly unremarkable when compared to the Millie's of the early 60's or before.
Ad pick:  A company called Adolph's from Minneapolis, Minnesota is selling reproduction German Army helmets with swastika decals. Decals come in your choice of red, blue, or orange!  :P
#178
The "Kissing Bandit" story was reprinted last year in Betty & Veronica Double Digest #233.
#179
All About Archie / Re: Mr. and Mrs. Lodge
September 23, 2016, 01:04:22 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on July 10, 2016, 03:44:39 AM
Going back to the Superman example, when Jack Kirby got hired away from Marvel by DC Comics, and began his stint there by taking over as the writer/artist on SUPERMAN'S PAL JIMMY OLSEN, the DC art editor looked at the resultant artwork and decided that Superman as drawn by Kirby looked entirely too inconsistent with the one being published in SUPERMAN and ACTION COMICS, and so artist Al Plastino was assigned to redraw the Superman heads which were then pasted over Kirby's original art, to make the character more consistent with the standard Superman style.
Just a question for you or anyone else that may know, but I was of the belief that in addition to Al Plastino that Curt Swan and/or Murphy Anderson also had redrawn Superman's head in those 70's Jimmy Olsen comics.  Also that Anderson, Neal Adams, or Vince Colletta specifically inked just the head to make it more consistent with what DC wanted Superman to look like.  Has anyone seen other names connected to the redrawn Kirby heads(other than possibly Mike Royer)?
#180
Archie's Friends / Re: Susie vs Ginger.
September 22, 2016, 11:11:49 PM
Quote from: JonInIowaCity on September 22, 2016, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 22, 2016, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: JonInIowaCity on September 22, 2016, 01:59:12 PM
I prefer Suzie. I remember her always looking for (and failing miserably at) jobs. She's got spunk!

Who was the artist? Or one of them, anyway?

I'm not sure.
Some covers are attributed to Al Fagaly, and I would guess he did some interior stories.  Some stuff has a Katy Keene vibe so maybe Bill Woggon was more the regular artist?  Samm Schwartz did some later issues as he signed his work.  The Suzie website is completely lacking this sort of info.