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#181
All About Archie / Re: The Jughead/Veronica Feud
May 14, 2016, 10:26:33 PM
These are from Runaway Ronnie, when Veronica is trying to live on her own working at a full time job after school and burning herself out.













You'd think he'd attack Reggie who had just insulted him instead of an injured girl but noooo.


Still...









Changeable little bugger isn't he?




(I don't think he's talking about Archie. I can believe he'd have a secret crush on Archie but I don't think he'd be delusional.)
#182
I like the slight manga look Fernando is giving some of the girls.




#183
Reviews / Re: PTF Review Super Suckers 2.2
May 14, 2016, 10:03:10 PM
This last issue was awesome (again!)


Jeff Shultz's parody of the Archie main five in their famous pose:


#184
This is a great fan art I found by one of the members on the old forum, chillableus, a Steven Universe Archie crossover.


#185
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 09, 2016, 02:29:29 PM
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 09, 2016, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 09, 2016, 10:47:49 AM
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 09, 2016, 10:40:11 AM
Lots of parodies in The Mighty Archie Art Players stories from Laugh and of course TV Laugh Out.


Here's GCD's listing. You may have some of the others. That would make a great digital exclusive collection.

The Mighty Archie Art Players look like it's something that was started in the Laugh series. I haven't been through them all but it looks like it's in every issue. I'll continue to add them. I'm missing issue #17 though.


Cool. Have you identified the FIRST Mighty Archie Art Players story?  I think the LAST one may have been the FCBD issue from 2009.
The earliest one I could find is in REGGIE AND ME #68, Jan. 1974, "Gone With the Breeze" (a 14 page parody of Gone With the Wind).


Any Gone With The Wind parody that has Reggie playing Ashley and Archie playing Rhett Butler should be buried and forgotten forever.
#186
Yeah! An Archie avalanche of A-holes!

















I love a father who has his priorities straight!  :D




Since all the main five have their own 'worst' threads now I didn't use any of them, is this supposed to be for all characters?




#188
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 08, 2016, 04:29:17 AM
In no way is that intended by the creators of the story (Frank Doyle, most likely, and Harry Lucey) to serve as an example which readers should take to heart and emulate,


Well after the Frank Doyle story I read last month where he makes Reggie a racist that really makes me love him. I'll remember to look up Frank Doyle for all my Reggie and Ronnie stories from now on. And again Harry Lucey just drew this story, I don't know why you keep bringing him up. I'll rebut more of your points if you PM me or make some other thread, otherwise time to get back to the girls.
#189
All About Archie / Re: Riverdale TV Series
May 14, 2016, 09:05:40 PM





My sole reason for watching this probable trainwreck.


(Well I also like the actors for Jason, Dilton, Coach Clayton and a few of the women, but I don't think I'd watch for just them. The first three aren't even going to be on much anyway unless Coach C has an affair with one of the moms...crap I can see it now  :P )
#190
I hadn't read the last couple of issues of the Archie reboot but I did today and sorry but I have gone in one year from loving this reboot to almost total apathy. Part of that is resentment over classic Archie being ditched but most of it is just the aimlessness of the "plot" which doesn't work in the realistic style they're using. I mean where is this going? I'll probably wait to get the tpb, if they put out another volume, instead of buying any more individual issues, that way if it gets even more boring I can at least give it away to someone.
#191
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 06, 2016, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: daren on May 06, 2016, 01:38:32 PM
If I knew I was going to be on this forum so long I would have picked a real username instead of my lame name, I thought I was going to be in and out. I'm thinking of changing it now.

How long have you been on the forum?


Since last August.
#192



Uh-oh, Veronica thinks my post is scary long, she says it sounds like the product of an unbalanced mind, she wants to know why we don't get back to posting stories of her.  :)  Okay I'll look for a good one.
#193
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 07, 2016, 01:19:29 AM
Quote from: daren on May 06, 2016, 11:12:22 PM
I'm not going over all that again, it seems you didn't read my post. New points though:

You make it sound as if Harry Lucey maybe wrote this. He probably didn't, he's not credited as a writer in any of his stories I've seen. Or as if the violence in the story is only because of his art style. It's not.

What you're reading as "violence" IS Harry Lucey's art style (no, I don't think he wrote it, but he's responsible for the visual interpretation of the script, so he "writes" the pictures and controls how you see the end result of the writer's script descriptions). The only violence here is slapstick CARTOON violence of the pie-in-the-face kind.


It's the other way around, Harry Lucey's extreme art style is making you think it's cartoon violence, it's not. The only explanation of cartoon violence that makes any sense is violence that can't be explained any other plausible way than that it's happening in a cartoon world. Moose stomping Reggie is cartoon violence, he comes back in the next story good as new. Betty or Veronica beating up Archie is probably cartoon violence, we know they're not that bloodthirsty or as strong as him, he wouldn't stand for it over and over either. Jughead bouncing a ball of Veronica's head, maybe cartoon violence, its a fine line but not that bad either way. Archie grabbing Veronica and grinding a washcloth in her face? NOT cartoon violence. He's strong enough and creep enough sometimes to do it, nothing in the story makes it unreal.


QuoteComparing what happens in this story to a hypothetical situation where Moose Mason beats the crap out of Veronica for jostling Midge is such a bizarre distortion of the way "Archie reality" works that I can't even address it.


??? I wrote that after you wrote 'No double standards for Veronica having "protected status" because she's a girl, and Archie isn't' 'what's good for the gander' all that. If you think she shouldn't be protected from guy violence you should be okay with her getting stomped by Moose just like the guys. It'd be OOC for him but he is sometimes, in a few stories he beat up Dilton.



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You can accept V. bouncing a piece of wood off Archie's noggin, but not the pie-in-the-face slapstick of Veronica getting a washcloth in the face


No Irishmoxie was right when she said a pie in the face, playful slapstick, is not the same as a washcloth in the face with Archie treating Veronica like a little kid he has a right to punish. He had to rub it in her face hard to get all the makeup off too.


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(that hurts her no more than a pie, or a ball bounced off the back of her head)


A slap in the face doesn't hurt anymore than accidentally burning your finger on a match physically, emotionally I think a little worse...


QuoteIf Betty or Jughead had done the same thing (although I can't think of a story setup to motivate that behavior on either of their parts) you'd be laughing along with everyone else


If Betty did it, ok, they're both girls. If Jughead did it in the same context frack no it wouldn't be ok, this is no bouncing ball. I mean...it DOES make it creepier that Archies her boyfriend, makes you wonder what else might happen, but it would not be ok for Jughead to do that.


QuoteI suspect you'd have found a way to laugh that off as just Reggie being himself.


Reggie's the only one of the main five who never does that stuff to her so I cant imagine it, sorry.  :P


QuoteYou can't allow your prior knowledge of any of her redeeming qualities in those other stories to affect how you view her in this story, nor your prior knowledge of Archie's bad behavior in other stories to inform his character in this story.


Oh come on nobody can juggle that much (I bet you couldn't do it reading a Betty story from her crazy era where Archie "rightly" punishes her for stalking him, neither could I)


QuoteMaybe because of all the stories where he gets off scot free by mistreating Betty


Yeah, takes some nerve for him to get holier than thou when he dumps on someone else all the time but the main bad is him pushing around a girl.


QuoteBut there are plenty of stories where Veronica is the fink, and gets away with it too.


In most of them she doesnt.


QuoteArchie is a virtual puppet of the writers in the employ of ACP and has to follow whatever script is written for him, and take whatever lumps he gets, get the doormat treatment from Ronnie, or be either the bad guy or the good guy in a Betty story.


Wait why are we going all meta suddenly, you didn't defend Veronica by saying she's the puppet of the writers too who has to follow her script?


QuoteWhy don't you simply tell me how the story should have ended? Write the last page the way you would have written it, and tell us what the drawings should be showing. You can make any modifications you want after Veronica has demanded that Archie take off the coat, either slight or totally different. Your only requirement is that the story has to be wrapped up in one page and have a funny ending.


It's not like God wrote the first page and told ACP to finish it, maybe just write a whole nother story? Here's an ending: They shrink all the panels to fit one last one of Veronica kicking Archie's butt. I'd laugh.





#194
All About Archie / Re: The Jughead/Veronica Feud
May 06, 2016, 11:16:23 PM
So this is where that panel with Jughead and Reggie that I've seen nine million times comes from.
#195
I'm not going over all that again, it seems you didn't read my post. New points though:


You make it sound as if Harry Lucey maybe wrote this. He probably didn't, he's not credited as a writer in any of his stories I've seen. Or as if the violence in the story is only because of his art style. It's not.


You're right, it's not legally assault, it's assault and battery. Don't try it at home kids!


I'm not oversensitized about Veronica, this story's exceptional.I would take offense if Archie did that to any girl, though if the girl was any other character a lot more people would agree it's wrong.


"She's the villain here, and she gets the tables turned on her and gets treated by Archie as HIS personal property, to show her how it feels to live under her boot heel."

If he lives under her boot heel that is his choice, she doesn't force him into it like he forced his crap on her in this story. No justification for his actions except that he felt like being a dick and he gets patted on the back for it, yeah I don't really understand that, but whatever. Continue with the Ronnie comeuppance stories, I like most of them and I doubt anything that bad will pop up again for a while.




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