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#1936
All About Archie / Re: Josie & the Pussycats reboot
June 09, 2016, 12:31:06 AM
Well, I guess we are seeing them spend some of that new finance money. Not familiar with any of these creators' work, but Audrey Mok's art looks okay.
#1937
Quote from: irishmoxie on June 08, 2016, 06:06:51 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 08, 2016, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: irishmoxie on June 08, 2016, 01:12:50 AM
Best of Jughead Crowning Achievements - loved the Craig Boldman stories. I'm thinking of going back and reading all the ones he wrote.


You're just discovering Craig Boldman's Jughead? He did an incredible 10-year run on Jughead with Rex Lindsey. Gave Jughead an amazing array of quirky obsessions, a vocabulary word of the month, and introduced his arch-nemesis Trula Twyst.

Never gave Jughead much of a try because when he appears in the Archie issues he's very one dimensional and obsessed with food which gets boring. These Craig Boldman stories are probably some of the funniest Archie Comics stories ever.

That's what I meant about the quirky obsessions. The obsessions with food, laziness/avoiding effort, and his relationship to girls aren't isolated things in Craig Boldman's Jughead, but part of a broader range of general eccentricity. I think Boldman realized the food/laziness/girls thing had been done to death over the decades, so while he incorporated those aspects of the character, he tried to make them part of a wider spectrum of oddball behavior. Cleverness and luck (sometimes good, sometimes bad) both play a part in the stories.
#1938
Archie's Friends / Re: Jughead Sabrina Team Up
June 08, 2016, 12:02:42 PM
Quote from: irishmoxie on June 08, 2016, 01:11:24 AM
In honor of Sabrina's appearance in the new Jughead series, I was wondering if there were any other stories where these two team up? Besides the infamous Jughead #200 issue which is one of my favs.


Of course Sabrina has appeared in numerous stories with Archie, Jughead, and the gang. But not so much just the two of them. Here's the only other one from recent times. There are a couple from the ARCHIE'S T.V. LAUGH-OUT early period, but I can't recall story titles or issue numbers.


#1939
Quote from: irishmoxie on June 08, 2016, 01:12:50 AM
Best of Jughead Crowning Achievements - loved the Craig Boldman stories. I'm thinking of going back and reading all the ones he wrote.


You're just discovering Craig Boldman's Jughead? He did an incredible 10-year run on Jughead with Rex Lindsey. Gave Jughead an amazing array of quirky obsessions, a vocabulary word of the month, and introduced his arch-nemesis Trula Twyst.
#1940
All About Archie / Re: The Jughead/Veronica Feud
June 08, 2016, 12:46:21 AM
Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 01:09:17 AM
Yuck.


It would make a great MAD parody of Riverdale, though... Hiram has an affair with Betty, dumps Hermione, marries Betty, and she becomes Veronica's step-mom. Meanwhile, Archie elopes with Miss Grundy. Hilarity ensues, etc.
#1941
All About Archie / Re: The Jughead/Veronica Feud
June 08, 2016, 12:36:35 AM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 08, 2016, 12:31:43 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 07, 2016, 11:33:02 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 07, 2016, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 05, 2016, 02:36:03 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 03, 2016, 11:51:50 PM



Is that from that same story where they had to pretend to be married by being partnered up (Archie/Betty, Veronica/Jughead) for a class project in managing a family budget?

No, this is a different story. Veronica reads an article that claims a woman should not get married until she can make a perfect  pie crust so she begs Betty to teach her how to bake.

OOOOOkay.... I'm used to Archie stories sometimes being based on pretty bizarre premises, but that one really takes the cake pie. Matrimonial success based on the quality of pie crust. Right.  :uglystupid2:


Yeah, very silly but Veronica believed it  :crazy2:





I guess it could have been worse. Instead of the Ladies Home Journal, she could have picked up a copy of the Weekly World News.
I still suspect that "article" was actually a Betty Crocker advertisement.
#1942
HOWARD THE DUCK #8
GODS OF WAR #1 (of 4)
MICKEY MOUSE #322
DONALD DUCK #381
THE SHADOW: DEATH OF MARGO LANE #1 (of 6)
WILL EISNER'S THE SPIRIT #11 (of 12)
EMPRESS #3 (of 7)
MIDNIGHT OF THE SOUL #1 (of 5)
INVADER ZIM #10
STAR TREK #55-58 (Legacy of Spock, Parts 1-4)
STAR TREK: MANIFEST DESTINY #1-4
#1943
All About Archie / Re: The Jughead/Veronica Feud
June 07, 2016, 11:33:02 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 07, 2016, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 05, 2016, 02:36:03 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 03, 2016, 11:51:50 PM



Is that from that same story where they had to pretend to be married by being partnered up (Archie/Betty, Veronica/Jughead) for a class project in managing a family budget?

No, this is a different story. Veronica reads an article that claims a woman should not get married until she can make a perfect  pie crust so she begs Betty to teach her how to bake.

OOOOOkay.... I'm used to Archie stories sometimes being based on pretty bizarre premises, but that one really takes the cake pie. Matrimonial success based on the quality of pie crust. Right.  :uglystupid2:
#1944
Quote from: invisifan on June 06, 2016, 07:30:43 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 06, 2016, 01:11:18 AM
What was "Civil Chore" (parodying Marvel's "Civil War", I guess) and how did it involve Archie vs Jughead? Is it worth reading?
The 3 part story from Tales from Riverdale Digest #22-24 featuring nearly every Archie character (as at least a face in the crowd) — Archie wants Riverdale teens to go "on strike" for a raise in allowance and such concessions from their parents, while Jug feels it's counterproductive ...


Ah, Tales From Riverdale Digest. That was going to be my next big order from MyComicShop.com anyway. Thanks!
#1945
Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 02:47:36 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 06, 2016, 02:40:41 AM
Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 02:30:02 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 06, 2016, 02:19:02 AM
Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 02:01:47 AM
In classic Archie we don't get it spelled out for us, we get clues and put it together. That's a good thing. I don't know why you'd want Roberto's exposition in this issue to become part of the classic canon, not only is it not as good as letting us make deductions for ourselves but it would limit Reggie's character.

I don't. It's HIS version of Reggie. I'm merely pointing out that that in classic Archie you don't get a view of the interior POV of how Reggie sees himself (and FAR fewer clues to go on, as applied to Midge).


Well you said in a way it's a shame Roberto's take couldn't apply to the classic characters so I assumed.

I meant it's a shame we don't get that kind of insight into their interior mindset, not that particular one that RA-S (Al Ghul  ;) ) has assigned to his version of Reggie in AWA.


Oh I know you meant that, Im just not for exposition of their interior mindset no matter what it is, unless it's a joke.


RA-S al Ghul, I might use that from now on. :)

That said, not all of anyone's (real person or fictional character) behavior is rationalized/articulated in some interior monologue or even conscious. There are layers.

Personally, I miss the "thought balloon", which has fallen out of favor in recent times in comic books. Just because some writers have used them badly doesn't mean they don't serve a good purpose when used creatively. I also miss the covers with word balloons.
#1946
Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 02:30:02 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 06, 2016, 02:19:02 AM
Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 02:01:47 AM
In classic Archie we don't get it spelled out for us, we get clues and put it together. That's a good thing. I don't know why you'd want Roberto's exposition in this issue to become part of the classic canon, not only is it not as good as letting us make deductions for ourselves but it would limit Reggie's character.

I don't. It's HIS version of Reggie. I'm merely pointing out that that in classic Archie you don't get a view of the interior POV of how Reggie sees himself (and FAR fewer clues to go on, as applied to Midge).


Well you said in a way it's a shame Roberto's take couldn't apply to the classic characters so I assumed.

I meant it's a shame we don't get that kind of insight into their interior mindset, not that particular one that RA-S (Al Ghul  ;) ) has assigned to his version of Reggie in AWA.


#1947
Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 02:01:47 AM
In classic Archie we don't get it spelled out for us, we get clues and put it together. That's a good thing. I don't know why you'd want Roberto's exposition in this issue to become part of the classic canon, not only is it not as good as letting us make deductions for ourselves but it would limit Reggie's character.

I don't. It's HIS version of Reggie. I'm merely pointing out that that in classic Archie you don't get a view of the interior POV of how Reggie sees himself (and FAR fewer clues to go on, as applied to Midge). Apart from being somewhat inconsistent in and of themselves, depending on which stories about Reggie from which time periods you pick and choose from, you can build a picture of a couple of different Reggies, by grouping certain classic Archie stories together to build your case. In one version, for example, a bunch of different stories reinforce the idea that the egotism and rotteness is a sham (Christmas stories where Reggie doesn't want the gang to discover he's really doing good deeds in secret, because it will ruin his reputation as king of the a-holes). In other stories the rottenness is deep-down and genuine.
#1948
Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 01:14:35 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 01, 2016, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: invisifan on June 01, 2016, 08:23:59 AM
Most likely the colourist (or whoever made the decision) barely read any Archie stories, skimmed this one and thought ''Leroy is a stereotypical black name" and away you go ...


No, I don't think the colorists are even looking at the names. Even if he/she failed to recognize Leroy as Veronica's cousin, it's part of the plot of the story that Veronica is willing to pay $20 for a cup of lemonade from Jughead, because she's been alerted to his exorbitant prices by her cousin. Of course she's sure he's up to something and just wants to ruin it for him. The reader isn't expected to recognize Leroy by sight either (he's wearing a skateboarding helmet), so he's introduced in the panel before he shows up by Jughead thinking "Oh great, here comes Veronica's bratty cousin", then Jughead addresses him by name in the next panel.



But just because Leroy's Ronnie's cousin doesn't mean he'd automatically be white, look at Harper. The only thing that should keep him white is that he's been drawn that way 70 years and it's too late to racechange him (yes it is, ACP, I bet this wasn't accidental at all).

No, I just honestly think they've got this mandate to pick out a character with a speaking role in the story and make him/her a person of color. If I had to guess, Leroy got picked because he's the only character in the story besides Ronnie and Juggie that has black hair (although not having black hair hasn't stopped them from race-changing characters in the past). What's really ironic is that, like I said, Leroy is in only 3 panels in that story (which is the same number of panels as Leroy's unnamed friend, but he gets only 2 words of dialogue) -- but the the little girl that Jughead convinces not to buy any lemonade is in as many panels as Leroy & friend, and has just as much dialogue. The reporter "Scoop" has even more panels, and so does the entrepreneur who wants to purchase the recipe for this $20-a-glass lemonade. Billy the owner of the lemonade stand who goes home for lunch leaving Jughead in charge has an even bigger part and more dialogue. I REALLY REALLY don't think that the colorists are even reading the stories, apart for scanning for words referring to colors like "blue", "red" etc. that might relate to their job.
#1949
Quote from: daren on June 06, 2016, 01:00:19 AM
Heres a cute ad with Betty and Reggie for one of their stories.



What was "Civil Chore" (parodying Marvel's "Civil War", I guess) and how did it involve Archie vs Jughead? Is it worth reading?
#1950
Quote from: irishmoxie on June 05, 2016, 11:55:50 PM
Roswell - not a sci fi fan usually but thought I'd give this a try.

I always thought Roswell was the original Smallville. Different type of aliens, otherwise the same basic premise.