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#2011
ARCHIE GIANT COMICS COLLECTION - I've been reading a little off an on over the last week. About halfway through it.

STAR TREK: ROMULANS: PAWNS OF WAR by John Byrne - JB is a genius of classic Trek. Here he gives the background leading up to the key classic Trek episode "The Balance of Terror", plus an adaptation of said episode, as seen from the Romulan side of events, followed by the aftermath of those events. The origin of the Romulan/Klingon alliance is explained, how they shared technology between those two empires, working in references to "The Trouble With Tribbles", "The Corbomite Maneuver", "The Enterprise Incident", and knitting all the background events together and filling in the details. Klingons Kor and Koloth play a big part in the alliance. A certain unnamed Starfleet Commodore formerly known only as 'Number One' from the pilot episode "The Cage" (a.k.a. "The Menagerie") shows up later in the story, and even the Organians from "Errand of Mercy" appear. There is a shift in power on Romulus after the events of "Balance of Terror" (thanks to the Klingons' machinations) that eventually results in the Praetor being succeeded by Gaius, the son of the unnamed Romulan Commander seen in "Balance of Terror" (the better for the Klingons to instigate war between the Romulans and the Federation, with Gaius seeking revenge on Kirk for his father's death in confrontation with the Enterprise), as well as an internal plot on Kronos to overthrow the Klingon emperor. All very well thought-out and satisfying by way of connecting the background history of ST, as the writers of the original television screenplays weren't working from some master plan, but merely constructing stand-alone episodes as they went along.

STAR TREK: CREW by John Byrne - In a series of individual stories, JB follows the career of Number One, from cadet assigned to the shakedown cruise of the Constitution-class starship NX-0001 (which will eventually be christened Enterprise) to her eventual return to the ship as a Starfleet Lieutenant under its original Captain, Robert April. She's obviously one of Byrne's favorite characters from the original series. Chris Pike shows up (as First Officer to Captain April) in the last story as well. One of the stories here is a sequel of sorts to an earlier Byrne ST miniseries, STAR TREK: ASSIGNMENT EARTH (which itself is a sequel to TOS episode of the same name featuring Robert Lansing as Gary Seven, agent of mysterious alien masters assigned to Earth in the 1960s). I'll be reading that one next.
#2012
Quote from: invisifan on May 27, 2016, 04:15:27 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 27, 2016, 03:33:03 PM
The only reason I'm still reading it is under the assumption that RA-S has an ending planned (and within a reasonable number of issues). If ACP thinks they're going to put another writer on it and try to play it out (monthly) for as long as people are willing to pony up $4 an issue, I am O-U-T.
This issue actually looks hopeful for their world in a way — the flesheaters are centrally controlled, the central control believes that the humans have a "hope" and at least claim that they could be restored to normal (though I wouldn't trust that part) and there's also the question of how corrupted Sabrina is now ... knowing that I could see a plan to break that link and end things in the course of a limited series of as short as 15 issues (based on 5-issue arcs). I would bet on Sabrina's collusion, though not necessarily survival (not sure if she'd want to), and like vs. Predator I don't know how many others could be expected to survive.


Oh, I'm not expecting Archie & friends to win. The die has already been cast, as it were. I just don't want to see the thing drag on and on, giving some faint hope of winning every so often so that they can draw it out for another arc after another arc. I'm all for stepping up the body count so we can move this thing along to its ultimate conclusion.


There are no happy endings to zombie stories, unless it involves Dan Parent drawing the final page.
#2013
All About Archie / Re: Archie The Fink
May 27, 2016, 03:43:18 PM
Quote from: Thrillho on May 27, 2016, 02:12:14 PM
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on May 27, 2016, 12:09:47 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 27, 2016, 01:51:24 AM
So what do you REALLY think of Archie Andrews dating your daughter, Mr. Cooper?   :knuppel2:




Do it! Do it!


From what story is this from?

Lol, is it the infamous Betty and Me #40?


Yep, "Always A Bridesmaid" from B&M#40.
#2014
Quote from: Thrillho on May 27, 2016, 01:48:25 PM
Quote from: spazaru on May 27, 2016, 09:26:59 AM
It's a shame Archie Comics can't get it out regularly and now with the TV show, I'm not hopeful since Roberto writes both.  Oh well.

I wonder about that too. Would you prefer it come out regularly with another writer or have RAS see it through until the end?


The only reason I'm still reading it is under the assumption that RA-S has an ending planned (and within a reasonable number of issues). If ACP thinks they're going to put another writer on it and try to play it out (monthly) for as long as people are willing to pony up $4 an issue, I am O-U-T.
#2015
All About Archie / Re: The Jughead/Veronica Feud
May 27, 2016, 03:16:20 PM
Quote from: Thrillho on May 27, 2016, 02:11:01 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 27, 2016, 02:03:30 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on May 26, 2016, 09:04:02 PM
Hmmm....not sure how I feel about Camila Mendes saying it's hard for Veronica to be good.

So your take on Veronica is that it's easy for her to be good, it's just that there's no fun in it for her so why bother?

Neither. I wasn't sure about Camila Mendes' quote, like if Veronica has ulterior motives or something and since they're using Twin Peaks as an example, I was wondering if she was going to end up like Josie Packard.

My take with Veronica is that she's immature and spoiled so she doesn't always do the right thing but it doesn't come from a place of malice, just that she's selfishly driven and she will make amends when she knows she's done something wrong. Most of the time her selfishness isn't that harmful for people around her, just annoying. I wouldn't say it's easy or hard for her to be good because most of acknowledge she has a good heart but as I said, she also has a selfish streak.


Let's just say it's the sort of thing that's rarely directly addressed...
But when it is -- Oh, brother! Look out!!

It's not "Archie"... It's STEALING (Archie) from Betty!


She just can't help it. It's like a medical condition -- she deserves sympathy and understanding...
She sure does seem to be enjoying herself, though.
#2016
Quote from: Thrillho on May 25, 2016, 12:03:36 PM
I guess we now know what Betty R.I.P. means

Haven't read it yet. Not a spoiler AFAIC, though... there was never a doubt in my mind that R.I.P. means DEAD IS DEAD.

RA-S seems to take quite a bit of "Glee" ::) in putting these beloved characters through the wringer, and before it's all over the living will envy the dead. You might even say he's taking pity on Betty in allowing her a mercy exit, sparing her from (as they used to say on BATMAN '66) ..."The WORST is Yet To Come!" Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if by the time it's all over, Archie is the last man standing.

Quote"Cannibals? Who is not a cannibal? I tell you it will be more tolerable for the Fejee that salted down a lean missionary in his cellar against a coming famine; it will be more tolerable for that provident Fejee, I say, in the day of judgement, than for thee, civilized and enlightened gourmand, who nailest geese to the ground and feastest on their bloated livers in thy pate de fois gras."
  ― Herman MelvilleMoby Dick
#2017
Quote from: Mazz on May 20, 2016, 08:58:51 PM
The more kids that get to read the digests that makes me happy so I keep purchasing them every once in awhile.

That is a great point. Sometimes it seems to me that pass-along readership of comics must be nearly a thing of the past, because comic book readers have become so synonymous with comic book collectors/hoarders (guilty as charged!), so its good to know someone's still paying it forward to the next generation.
#2018
All About Archie / Re: The Jughead/Veronica Feud
May 27, 2016, 02:03:30 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on May 26, 2016, 09:04:02 PM
Hmmm....not sure how I feel about Camila Mendes saying it's hard for Veronica to be good.

So your take on Veronica is that it's easy for her to be good, it's just that there's no fun in it for her so why bother?

QuoteBoth actors admit to having not read the Archie Comics before being cast, but have since pored through them to be sure to get their characters right.

Good thing that Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa was careful to provide the actors only with Archie comics that he'd written himself!  ;)
#2019
All About Archie / Re: Archie The Fink
May 27, 2016, 01:51:24 AM
So what do you REALLY think of Archie Andrews dating your daughter, Mr. Cooper?   :knuppel2:



#2020
All About Archie / Re: Archie The Fink
May 27, 2016, 12:36:55 AM
Too bad Wilbur Wilkin wasn't visiting Riverdale. The hilarity would have been multiplied when he mistakes the hair-dyed Betty Cooper for his black-haired, ponytailed girlfirend Linda Moore.

#2021
All About Archie / 666 detentions?
May 26, 2016, 01:10:06 PM
In the final issue of ARCHIE, #666, Archie has reached a new record of 666 detentions (does the Guinness Book of World Records know about this?). That's quite an accomplishment, considering there are only 180 days of school each year, for a total of 720 days of schooling to complete a High School education. That means that out of those 720 days, there were only a maximum of 54 school days (spread over four years) that Archie didn't receive a detention (unless he's racking up multiple detentions in a single day -- but then how can he possibly serve all those detentions in the same day?) I suppose the Bee could have been really worked up on a number of occasions over a single incident, and issued multiple detentions as a result of that one goof-up. Archie's so habitual though, that you'd think the Bee would have just given up on trying to give him detention (he obviously is FAR past learning any valuable lessons as a result of the punishment, and each time Archie pulls a detention, he's punishing a RHS teacher by forcing one of them to stay and monitor the Detention Room) -- but he can't, because then it sets a bad precedent and example for the rest of the school.

Unless Mr. Weatherbee can somehow recall all 73.5 years (at the time he reached #666) that he and Archie have been in school together. If that's the case, then Archie can breath a sigh of relief, knowing that his 666 detentions were accumulated over 13,230 school days, or an average of 1 detention every 20 school days (every 4 weeks). Despite that, 666 has to be an exaggeration of the number of Archie stories where he received a detention. While that's only one a month, and there was a time when ACP published more than 20 titles featuring Archie and the gang, I doubt you could really find all 666 detentions by scouring all the stories and adding them up.

And yet he still entertains hopes of graduating from Riverdale High. Unbelievable.
#2022
All About Archie / Re: Hirambo
May 26, 2016, 05:14:56 AM
I guess it would have killed the story if Mr. Lodge had just called ahead. Assuming the recipient of the bearer bonds had been at his place of business that day, Hiram could have sent a driver to pick him up, given him the bonds right there at the mansion, and sent him back with the driver. Maybe they could have had a nice little chat over lunch together.

Who strolls around the streets carrying a half-mil of negotiable bonds? Not that the streets of Riverdale are exactly crime infested, but Hiram ought to know better in the first place than to listen to Archie (who was obviously taking great glee in destroying his suit, which should have made him think twice). I'm sure Hiram is used to dealing in large amounts of cash or other unsecure transactions on rare occasions, so why would he be acting like this was the first such situation he's ever had to deal with?

He has to wear a torn-up suit to walk from the curb of the sidewalk where Archie pulls his car up to the front door? And of course neither Archie nor Mr. Lodge can look and see the CLOSED sign in the window as they pull up in the car, and Archie drives away immediately as soon as Hiram closes the car door without looking to see him enter the building.

And the Riverdale P.D. doesn't recognize Hiram Lodge, because it's not like he's a local celebrity or carrying any form of identification -- he's just some vagrant who likely lifted a half-mil in bonds from one of the many well-dressed millionaires walking the streets of Riverdale.

It's so easy to shoot more holes than a piece of Swiss cheese in some of these simple plots from classic Archie stories, that you realize a lot of the old type of plots are not going to pass in the New Riverdale's mode of realism and continuity, which of course just reduces the opportunities for comedy.
#2023
All About Archie / Re: Archie The Fink
May 26, 2016, 03:46:46 AM
Quote from: daren on May 26, 2016, 02:50:16 AM
I gave my reasons already here and in other threads but I don't hate him ALL the time, a lot of the time I admire him. Then he pulls some crap and I hate him all over again.  :D

Ditto. Works the same way with Veronica (well, "admire" might be too strong a word in most cases to Veronica, only in rare cases does that apply). But they're both at their most entertaining when getting some kind of karmic return for their actions earlier in a story.
#2024
BIFF BAM POW! #1 (2007, Amaze Ink) - Found in the 50c boxes, this is a collection of alternative-y superhero comix by Evan Dorkin (MILK & CHEESE) and Sarah Dyer. Some of the strips appeared earlier in other places like DISNEY ADVENTURES DIGEST or NICKELODEON MAGAZINE. It seems like most of Evan Dorkin's work is either in mainstream kids publications or for indy fringe comix publishers like Slave Labor Graphics, but whenever I see an entire comic that's all his strips I pick it up. Sarah Dyer is his partner and frequent collaborator. This one has a long lead story (the cover feature) about how 110-lb female prizefighter One Punch Goldberg became a crime fighter, plus strips featuring Nutsy Monkey, Kid Blastoff, and the 1 page "Billy and Super-Rad" about a teenage superhero and his little brother/nemesis.
#2025
All About Archie / Re: Archie The Fink
May 26, 2016, 01:36:00 AM
Quote from: Thrillho on May 25, 2016, 01:50:21 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 25, 2016, 01:11:30 PM
Quote from: Thrillho on May 25, 2016, 12:23:44 PM
I think Midge is the least interesting of all the characters, total MacGuffin.


The interesting thing about her is that guys seem to be interested in her. In the more modern stories, that seems to have been functionally reduced to just Reggie. She's pretty much a complete mystery and a blank slate as far as her internal character and motivations. What is it about her that makes her worth suffering beating after beating by Moose, to Reggie? I mean, it would be a lot easier and safer to pursue B&V or some other girl, so why live dangerously? Probably there were as many different takes on that as there were writers, but none of them really felt strongly enough about it to make her a major character in a story, or even to explain, exactly, how Reggie rationalizes it to himself. Depending on the writer, she seemed to be either seriously interested, or just mildly annoyed but slightly flattered at the same time by Reggie's attention. Since Midge never got more than the sketchiest of parts in the story, we'll never know.

When Pop Tate named menu items after his regulars, Midge was the peanut butter and jelly sandwich, the most basic of sandwiches. That tells me all I need to know about Midge.

PB&J isn't the most basic of sandwiches (that would be a sandwich with only a single ingredient between the slices of bread, like a peanut butter sandwich, a grilled cheese sandwich, or a plain hamburger with nothing on it on a bun).

If Midge were a sandwich, she'd be a mystery sandwich that was priced much higher than other sandwiches, causing you to wonder just what was in it that would make it worth the price.