Quote from: daren on May 05, 2016, 02:27:13 AM




I found another good story with these two but I'm having trouble finding what I did with the rest of it. 

Is that the one where Jughead becomes a hand model? Come to think of it, there may be more than one of those stories.

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Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2016, 02:57:46 PM
Personally I don't care what they do to the characters in the show at this point. I've read enough regarding their intentions that I have zero interest in watching it.

The only possibility that is potentially upsetting to me is that if the show (somehow, although the odds seem pretty well stacked against this) were to become a real hit. Why? Because if it does, it is virtually guaranteed to affect the comics published by ACP. They are sure to see that TV success as an indication that people want to read about characters who are similar to the TV show in the comic books. The last thing I want to see is Aguirre-Sacasa's version of Archie and the gang as comic book characters (AWA is quite enough of that), because you can pretty much bet that it would then become the main version of Archie. I'm not losing TOO much sleep over that possibility right now, since as I mentioned, the odds of the TV show becoming a real hit seem pretty slim.

How do you think it could become the main comic book version? A new series drawn in the reboot style or drawn in the classic Archie style?

Why would they draw it in the classic Archie style? That seems to be their #1 mandate, to stay as far away from that style as possible.  My guess is that they'd just begin altering the characters in the existing Archie series by changing them to reflect the TV series, but if that just wouldn't work because it's too unsubtle, then possibly another reboot (although they might retain whatever creative team was on the title before the change). This would only be if the TV show was doing well in the ratings and seemed destined to go on for a while. If they weren't sure, they'd probably tweak all the characters in the direction of the show as much as possible without directly contradicting whatever the comic had already established by that point.

Quote from: Archiecomicxfan215 on May 04, 2016, 12:19:35 AM
I love Peanuts, Garfield, Pearls Before Swine, Cathy, and Luann

Luann

This is an example of where if you're coming into the strip with no prior knowledge of it, you're missing what's actually going on with the interaction of the three characters in this situation. If you don't know the existing relationships between Tiff and Quill, Tiff and Luann, and Quill and Luann going into it, you just have to scratch you head and ask what exactly just happened there? At a guess I'd say Tiff and Luann are rivals, but whether Quill is more than just friends with either of them I can't tell.

Quote from: irishmoxie on May 04, 2016, 09:40:20 PM
At around $40 a pop that's quite a collection. How are the Popeye books? What made you want to get all 6? Are they the same as the reprinting of the classic comic they are doing monthly now? I read it occasionally.

There are three different series of Popeye hardcovers. The first (chronologically, in the history of the strip) is the 6-volume collection of books from Fantagraphics. Those reprint the entirety of original creator E.C. Segar's work on Popeye. Popeye was originally a quite minor character, introduced into the ongoing THIMBLE THEATER strip (whose main characters were Castor Oyl and his sister Olive, and her boyfriend Ham Gravy). He proved to be so popular with readers that he eventually took over the strip and became its star. Segar died relatively young (age 43) in 1938.

Bud Sagendorf was a teenager when he was recruited by Segar as an assistant, and later he became primarily responsible for the Popeye comic books, beginning in the late 1940s through the 1960s, while someone else took over the newspaper strip (eventually Sagendorf did get his shot at the more prestigious newspaper strip). It's the Sagendorf original Popeye comic books that are reprinted in IDW's ongoing Popeye Classic Comics (and those are later collected into hardcover volumes as well, published by IDW). I didn't even list those, although related, on my list (because they're not reprinted from the newspaper strips, but the comic books), but I highly recommend them. Comparing Segar's original Popeye strips with Sagendorf's comic books, you'll notice some differences. In between those two came the famous Fleischer Brothers Studio animated cartoon, which took some liberties with Segar's Popeye - and some of the animated cartoon elements were so popular and identified with the character that Sagendorf incorporated them into his comic book stories.

The final series of collected Popeye hardcovers are the much later strips by cartoonist Bobby London (these are collected in 2 volumes from IDW/LoAC in the horizontal format), done in the late 1980s. These update Popeye to make him topical (much like Archie, always keeping up with current trends) for the late 1980s - something that hadn't been done in the strip up to that time, and the results are quite funny, at least for anyone who can appreciate the topical references.

Quote from: irishmoxie on May 03, 2016, 11:15:40 PM

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Quote from: BettyReggie on May 03, 2016, 09:07:44 PM
Who's the person she's related to?

That's what I'm asking. irishmoxie says it's nepotism, and that's when you hire (or promote) your relatives. That kind of thing sort of goes without saying when the publishing company is family owned and passed down (through several generations of Goldwaters and Silberkleits), but I'm asking who is Erica Henderson related to that she got hired because of nepotism?

Her dad worked for Archie for a bit but I'm sure he had connections into the comic world that helped her get where she is today. It certainly isn't her art which ranges from ugly to even worse inconsistent as people on here have pointed out.

Her dad wrote only a handful of stories for Archie, and that was back in the early 1990s. He also died a year or two back, before Erica really had any breaks in the industry. I'm sure he gave her some tips on how to submit work to publishers, but C. J. Henderson was never actually a huge name as a writer, either of prose or of comics -- he was kind of working the low end of both fields, although he managed to get a fair number of books published over a couple of decades or so, but it's not like we're talking about Stephen King or (for Archie Comics) George Gladir or something. His last comic work was for Moonstone Books, about as low on the comic publishing scale as you can get while still being distributed by Diamond.

Thank you Beard of Knowledge.

You and I may not like her work (and I certainly don't find her style appropriate for JUGHEAD), but you have to acknowledge that someone does. She was nominated twice for the 2016 Eisner awards -- once for best new series (for The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl) and once for best penciller/inker.  Ergo, the work she's getting is on her own merit.

Quote from: irishmoxie on May 03, 2016, 09:55:40 PM

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Quote from: BettyReggie on May 03, 2016, 09:07:44 PM
Who's the person she's related to?

That's what I'm asking. irishmoxie says it's nepotism, and that's when you hire (or promote) your relatives. That kind of thing sort of goes without saying when the publishing company is family owned and passed down (through several generations of Goldwaters and Silberkleits), but I'm asking who is Erica Henderson related to that she got hired because of nepotism?

Her dad worked for Archie for a bit but I'm sure he had connections into the comic world that helped her get where she is today. It certainly isn't her art which ranges from ugly to even worse inconsistent as people on here have pointed out.

Her dad wrote only a handful of stories for Archie, and that was back in the early 1990s. He also died a year or two back, before Erica really had any breaks in the industry. I'm sure he gave her some tips on how to submit work to publishers, but C. J. Henderson was never actually a huge name as a writer, either of prose or of comics -- he was kind of working the low end of both fields, although he managed to get a fair number of books published over a couple of decades or so, but it's not like we're talking about Stephen King or (for Archie Comics) George Gladir or something. His last comic work was for Moonstone Books, about as low on the comic publishing scale as you can get while still being distributed by Diamond.

Quote from: BettyReggie on May 03, 2016, 09:07:44 PM
Who's the person she's related to?

That's what I'm asking. irishmoxie says it's nepotism, and that's when you hire (or promote) your relatives. That kind of thing sort of goes without saying when the publishing company is family owned and passed down (through several generations of Goldwaters and Silberkleits), but I'm asking who is Erica Henderson related to that she got hired because of nepotism?

About 5 to 10 years back, I really started getting into these hardcover books collecting older, classic newspaper comic strips. They're mainly published by about 5 different companies, so I'll list the ones I've been getting by publisher. (A few of these have 2 different series of books, one for dailies, and one for Sundays - like The Phantom and Buck Rogers.)

Dark Horse Comics:
TARZAN by Hal Foster
ALLEY OOP by V. T. Hamlin

Fantagraphics Books:
NANCY by Ernie Bushmiller
POPEYE by E.C. Segar (6 volumes)
Walt Disney's MICKEY MOUSE by Floyd Gottfredson

Hermes Press:
THE PHANTOM by Lee Falk
BUCK ROGERS in the 25th Century

IDW/Library of American Comics:
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN by Stan Lee & John Romita (2 volumes)
ARCHIE by Bob Montana
BATMAN
SUPERMAN
WONDER WOMAN (1 volume)
LI'L ABNER by Al Capp
MISS FURY by Tarpe Mills (2 volumes)
POPEYE by Bobby London (2 volumes)
TARZAN by Russ Manning (4 volumes)
STAR TREK (2 volumes)
SECRET AGENT X-9 by Dashiell Hammett & Alex Raymond (1 volume)
X-9: SECRET AGENT CORRIGAN by Archie Goodwin & Al Williamson (6 volumes)
Walt Disney's SILLY SYMPHONIES
Walt Disney's DONALD DUCK by Al Taliaferro

Titan Books:
TARZAN by Burne Hogarth
MANDRAKE THE MAGICIAN by Lee Falk & Phil Davis
FLASH GORDON (Sundays) by Alex Raymond
FLASH GORDON (Dailies) by Dan Barry

(various publishers):
LITTLE NEMO IN SLUMBERLAND by Winsor McKay

Yesterday I read JUGHEAD & FRIENDS DIGEST #1, 2, 8, and 9.
Today I read PATSY WALKER a.k.a. HELLCAT #5, SCOOBY-DOO TEAM-UP #16 and GOLDIE VANCE #1.
I like the art in GOLDIE, and the story was alright I guess, but doesn't really compel me to keep reading the title.

Quote from: irishmoxie on May 02, 2016, 03:49:32 PM
He draws cute art. I'm gonna start picking up Jughead again.

And to answer your question why he wasn't hired in the first place: nepotism.

Erica Henderson's related to one of the editors at Archie?

Did anyone read GOLDIE VANCE from a few weeks ago? It's a Boom comic (#1 of 4) by Hope Larson (haven't read any of her previous stuff) and Brittney Williams (who draws Marvel's new PATSY WALKER comic). Not sure what it's about, but it looks like it might be some Nancy Drew-type mystery solving thing. I'm going to give it a try later and see if I like it.

Gotta read PATSY WALKER #5 from last week first, though...

Quote from: daren on May 03, 2016, 03:48:08 AM
Sorry De I can't find the artists' name, I suck. I forgot where I put this artists name too, Archie, Betty, and Godzilla. Why not.

If Dark Horse still had the Godzilla license rather than IDW, that could have been a 1-pager in the back of an issue of AvP. Godzilla would just step on them all at once and squish them into bloody smears, accomplishing in one page what it took 4 issues of AvP to do.

I'm convinced that the way to go for a Sabrina or Josie comic is to package the material and market it in partnership with a major book publisher, as an original graphic novel series (maybe something like a 100 page story). Gisele's versions of Sabrina and Josie look modern and classic at the same time, and seem like they would have the best chance of grabbing a chunk of that traditional market for Archie readers, tween-age girls. Get them into bookstores with the promotional clout of a major book publisher behind them. Might not hurt to produce the book in the same format as a manga paperback, so it could be racked in that section (and also in the section where they rack the Archie trade collections).

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Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 02, 2016, 12:48:45 PM
I kind of let my reading of PixieTrix webcomics slide a bit after they finished up the most recent volumes of Eerie Cuties and Magick Chicks, which for a while I was reading kind of intensely trying to catch up. As it happens, I managed to catch up right before they took a little break to do a new Kickstarter for the print versions, and I kind of drifted off a bit, distracted by other reading. I never really did get much into reading MA3, because the single-strip format (as opposed to the manga page format, like in EC, MC and Dangerously Chloe) kind of put me off it a little. It's not as convenient for me to read that way as webcomics (or save to read later), since I don't remember to check up on the site regularly, and there was already a huge backlog of older MA3 strips to catch up on. One of these days I'll give it another go, as I didn't get all that far the first time.

But surely you are reading the current EC?  Colour, the page format you prefer, and by Fernando ...

Just have not gotten to it yet (or the 2nd issue of Super Suckers, either). I fall behind on various things from time to time, and it's even worse when it's stuff that isn't in the pile of stuff I wind up taking home from the comic shop every week. With the PixieTrix webcomics, I do prefer reading an entire complete chapter if possible.

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Quote from: Mr.Lodge on May 02, 2016, 01:29:02 AM
Anything not related to MARVEL or DC. Too much Superhero trash out there. 

Get a life guys. Being outside when the sun shines is nice. Ever hear of a 'girl' or a 'date'? 

Just one question. Why is it that you find it necessary to make yourself feel better by hating on other people for what they like?
Hate a publishing company if you must for what they publish, or a genre of fiction. If you don't like it, that's your choice. You should have stopped after your first 2 sentences, which is your legitimate opinion.
Hating on people whose entertainment choices you disagree with? NOT COOL.
My advice? Get outside with the sun shining in a very public place and read your Archie comic books there. Then see how many people you impress with how much cooler you are than readers of other types of comic books.

I have read Archie during a slow night at work and was made fun of a bit.    But mostly my male co-workers wanted to see how slutty/not slutty Betty and Veronica were dressed.


I do wish there were less superhero comics or rather a greater proportion of other types of stories. I think Image and IDW are the big players in that (though I like the smaller pubs even better) and hopefully there will be even more choice in the future. If people find out I like comics they always assume I know all the Marvel lore and start talking to me about the movies of which I have seen none.

I've read a ton of superhero comics over the years, but the percentage keeps going down. As soon as people learn you like comics, usually the next thing out their mouth is talking about the latest Batman or Marvel movie. My interest in those films began declining even earlier and more sharply than my interest in most of Marvel and DC's mainstream superhero titles. There are any number of those comics that it's easy for me to borrow issues just to see what's going on (if I had to pay for them, I wouldn't bother), but it's become a lot rarer for me to actually spend any money on them. There are maybe about a half-dozen at Marvel, maybe 2 at DC. But that's out of dozens of comics I read every month, from many different publishers and many different styles of art and genres of fiction.


I wish there were more "Archie-like" comics to pick from out there from all publishers, which is why it saddens me to see ACP itself publish fewer and fewer comics that are "Archie-like". I don't consider the New Riverdale comics "Archie-like" at all, while things like Die Kitty Die and Super Suckers are.