Quote from: Fernando Ruiz on April 25, 2016, 05:19:40 PM
And it's really working out for the very best! Stay tuned for some MAJOR Kitty announcement coming VERY, VERY soon!

I've been waiting on pins & needles for this! Of course, I've been hoping from the very start, that KITTY would only be the beginning and that I could look forward to future comics from AstroComics, but I'm excited! Can't wait!!

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 04:33:26 PM
I agree with what you're saying.  But for a company that has trouble selling books with Archie as the main character, I can't imagine a Jellybean spinoff being successful.

It's just that for a little while there, as far as new material was concerned (and apart from the digests), LIFE WITH ARCHIE was the most popular title, which was making ACP think about launching a VERONICA AND BETTY Magazine (as you may or may not recall). So the thinking there was along the lines of "Well, I guess people like a longer, continued story like you can get in this magazine format, with soap-opera elements, so maybe they'll go for another one along those lines").

Another possible way of thinking about it was that what the readers of LWA were liking was "the Bettyverse" or "the Veronicaverse", so maybe they'd buy another series set in that universe. That would be the thinking behind spinning the LWA Jellybean off in her own title -- as opposed to something like "Reggie has more fans than say, Kevin Keller, so why not give him his own comic book?". However, as things happened, what turned out to be the case is that LIFE WITH ARCHIE's sales described a parabola like a rocket -- at first it was one of the best-sellers that ACP had, but then it cooled down and sales dropped off rather quickly as the series progressed.

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 02:46:36 PM
This Cheryl Blossom hasn't made it into the new Archie and Jughead series yet. Being as popular as people say she is that surprises me a bit. Maybe she will be more a regular in the new Betty and Veronica series.

Between 1995 and 2001, Cheryl starred in 50 issues of her own comics.

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 02:40:54 PM
I remember little Souphead taught Jughead a lesson while Jughead was trying to teach him one.

We're gonna turn you into a classic Archie fan yet, GingerGal! Watch out! 

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Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
My original point was just that I consider Jellybean and Souphead to be about equal level characters in the Archieverse.

I like them both. But really what the topic started out as was the idea of a spinoff of LWA, and Jellybean strikes me as the most likely candidate as a spinoff set in THAT universe that wouldn't be a mere clone of the parent series.

You don't realize this, because you don't read other comic books. Characters, no matter what "level" you as a reader deign to assign to them, are not stuck at whatever level you pigeonhole them. All someone needs to do is come up with a new spin or direction for that character, and that can change everything, catapulting them from years of obscurity into the spotlight, and raising them up in audience popularity. It's happened over and over again with other companies' characters. It may never have happened at Archie, but maybe it's because they were afraid to try. There was a time when things like Daredevil, Captain America, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy were some of Marvel's poorest-selling and least-popular series.

Come to think of it, it's happened at least ONCE with an Archie character. Cheryl Blossom was languishing in obscurity, until, nearly overnight, an executive decision to push the character hard as "the next big thing" was made, and the readers bought into it, and made her Archie's hottest property of  the late 1990s. And now, she's back to pre-1994 levels of popularity, but for a while there...

Right-clicking only made it a teensy bit larger, but thanks anyway. I tried it on two computers, so I'm pretty sure it's not my machine.


It might just be me, I guess. It's part of why I got rid of my smartphone, because I wasn't going to carry one of those mini-tablet ones, and I don't care to look at stuff on a screen that small. People who use their phones like that all the time are probably saying "What is he talking about? It looks fine to me!"

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
My original point was just that I consider Jellybean and Souphead to be about equal level characters in the Archieverse.

I like them both. But really what the topic started out as was the idea of a spinoff of LWA, and Jellybean strikes me as the most likely candidate as a spinoff set in THAT universe that wouldn't be a mere clone of the parent series.

You don't realize this, because you don't read other comic books. Characters, no matter what "level" you as a reader deign to assign to them, are not stuck at whatever level you pigeonhole them. All someone needs to do is come up with a new spin or direction for that character, and that can change everything, catapulting them from years of obscurity into the spotlight, and raising them up in audience popularity. It's happened over and over again with other companies' characters. It may never have happened at Archie, but maybe it's because they were afraid to try. There was a time when things like Daredevil, Captain America, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy were some of Marvel's poorest-selling and least-popular series.

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 12:40:50 PM
I was basically kidding around, DCR.  But there are a lot of characters I'd rather see with a series than Jellybean, teenaged or not.

I think I can see the basic difference in our POVs here, spaz. You're looking at a Jellybean series as a 'branding' thing: "I don't recognize "Jellybean" as strong brand that predisposes me to buy a ticket". I'm looking at it as a concept thing: "ARCHIE: The Next Generation" (which of course, is an absolutely horrible title for a series -- so it's "Jellybean"). What's the next generation of teenager at Riverdale High going to be like, with the adult Gang of Five we know from LWA filling the supporting adult roles that normally go to the parents and faculty of RHS in classic Archie stories? We're flopping the focus here; LWA focused on the adults, JELLYBEAN would focus on the teenagers, and cut back on the soap opera dynamic of LWA in favor of taking a more comedic/lighthearted approach to looking at that same world from a teenager's worldview. In effect, recasting the more serious world seen in LWA, back into the mold of classic Archie stories about teenagers (with a new teenage cast revolving around Jellybean as the main character, and Archie, Jughead, Betty, etc. as the responsible authority figures in their world). The idea here being to capitalize (if LWA had continued to be a sales success), on an already-established series, trying to carry over interest of those readers into a spinoff set in the same universe.

It's not about "the character", because there really isn't enough in The Married Life to set Jellybean the teenager's character in stone. That has to be built on just a few slim connective threads to classic Archie. "She's Jughead's baby sister, all grown up".  This is a night-and-day thing, like "Li'l Jinx" to JINX. That thing turned out to be great, which I'd never have guessed before reading it. The only reason I did wind up getting it was because it was super-cheap, and I was more than mildly curious. Never really cared one way or the other about Li'l Jinx, but after reading it, I love JINX.

Okay, again... I DO appreciate the effort. But I can sort of guess what's happening here. Those images you just put up are a little bit bigger, but I can see that you're both posting and reading everything off your phone (where you have pinch and zoom capability, so even though the resolution isn't all that great, you can still enlarge the images to be big enough to read comfortably). I'm gonna say that you haven't actually looked at what you posted here on an actual computer monitor, so you just don't really have an idea of what the images look like compared to what people normally post in other threads. Possibly another thing is that doing everything on your phone, it just isn't feasible to upload larger images.


Thanks anyway. I didn't mean to be a bother. It's just a little frustrating. Sorry. Again, karma for the effort.

Quote from: irishmoxie on April 25, 2016, 07:30:54 AM
Re-reading Harrow County. I just love this series. The writing and art fit perfectly together.

What's it about?

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Quote from: BettyReggie on April 25, 2016, 12:51:12 AM
I loved Jellybean as adult in Life With Archie. She worked in Jughead's while Midge was pregnant. And Midge had to stay off her feet. But in the beginning Jellybean was such a bad worker, she just hanged with Davey her boyfriend which Jughead didn't like. He was bad news. But when Midge almost lost the baby JellyBean got her act together & worked hard. I wish JellyBean was all grown up in the digests. They could have had more interesting stories maybe some that just starred her as the main character.

The inclusion of Jellybean as a teenager in The Married Life is kind of important because it's the one thing in there that really tells you exactly when The Married Life is taking place compared to the classic Archie stories: Jellybean is 15 years older, so The Married Life is taking place 15 years after high school. Maybe if LIFE WITH ARCHIE  had been doing better sales-wise there could have been a spinoff with Jellybean in her own series.

Jellybean with her own series?  I'm an Archie freak and I doubt I would buy that.  I think LWA would have had to be moving 20 million copies of each issue to justify Jellybean with her own series.  I think Pop Tate would be more interesting in his own series than Jellybean, LOL.  Maybe if Souphead was in the mix with Jellybean, that would be more compelling.   

Well, this is teenage Jellybean (not baby Jellybean) we're talking about here in her own series -- existing in the world where Archie and Betty are teachers at Riverdale High, so it would be an interesting variation on the standard Archie scenario -- but you made your point, you don't like Jellybean. But again, TEENAGE Jellybean is a completely different character than in the regular Jughead stories, and we barely got to know her in The Married Life, so how do you really know you wouldn't like her? THAT character remains largely unwritten as yet. I don't really know where Souphead would fit into the mix, since he's ten years older than Jellybean, not her contemporary. But even so, HIS character as a 25-year old is a completely mystery, as well.

I mean, maybe you're right. Who would be interested in buying a comic book series starring a teenage girl in high school? Although... I sorta had the impression that maybe that kinda thing was Archie Comics' main schtick.

POP TATE as the star of his own series? I'm gonna say... no. Not even the "retired in Florida" variant Pop of LWA.

Quote from: Asdfghjkl on April 24, 2016, 11:42:11 AM
Hey, guys!  Since my original forum post was erased, I thought that I would start up a new version it with all new scans!  So, this page will be the home for every story where B&V switch bodies, places, lives, homes, hairstyles, clothes, or hair colors.  If anyone has something that they'd like to contribute -- go right ahead.

Here's "Satisfaction Guaranteed"


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They're no good to read at this size, though, and clicking on the images or copying the location does nothing to enlarge them for viewing. I realize you're just doing this on your phone, but if no one can really read the results, isn't it kind of a waste of time? Not trying to be a complainer, because I appreciate the effort to share these stories, but the results are sort of less than ideal. Couldn't you just upload some larger images to your Media folder, and link them in this post? I gave you karma for the effort, anyway.

If you're not sure how to upload images to your Media folder, there's a thread on that HERE, and one on how to link those images in your posts HERE. Any questions you have about it, I'd be happy to answer in one of those threads.

Quote from: invisifan on April 25, 2016, 02:42:49 AM
Or they didn't realize that was how it was done ...

I've yet to realize how it's done, since what I thought was the correct method obviously didn't work. Unless I'm doing something wrong that I completely overlooked, but that error message would seem to indicate the fault is not mine.

So I went to the Shop and paid for a Stickie, thinking that I wanted to make this topic I had just created, "Where do you buy your New Riverdale comics?" into a stickie, but then when I tried to use the stickie I just bought, I kept getting a Database Error message that says "Please try again.  If you come back to this error screen, report the error to an administrator." I tried this a dozen times over a day or so, but always with the same error message, so I'm reporting it. Maybe that explains why no one has a stickied topic so far.

^^^ I guess I better call dibs on naming my digital clone before all the good names are taken. I'm gonna call mine "Neo". ^^^

I'm actually pretty excited about the possibilities here, once I get the initial copy of myself saved. I mean, it's an obvious no-brainer that the absolute first thing I'm going to want to do is merge my digital Media Library with my virtual memory files, giving me instant total recall of all my comics, cartoons, movies, photos, etc. Then I'm sure I'll want to tinker around with some modified versions of myself (of course, I'll want to be careful to save a copy of myself before I begin making any changes, so I can Revert To Saved if I'm not happy with the way any of my mods turn out). So many new options for the virtual life!