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Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on October 18, 2017, 04:14:05 AM
Apart from the reprint digests, just about EVERY Archie Comics brand (or imprint) has only one or two ongoing titles.
Riverdale TV series:
RIVERDALE
New Riverdale:
ARCHIE
THE ARCHIES
Archie Horror: (but they only come out with a one or two issues a year... which is stretching the definition of an "ongoing title")
AFTERLIFE WITH ARCHIE
CHILLING ADVENTURES OF SABRINA
JUGHEAD: THE HUNGER (*hasn't even come out yet, so hard to say if it'll be "ongoing" or not)
All-New Classic Archie:
YOUR PAL ARCHIE (not really an "ongoing" anyway)
Archie Alterniverse: (there's no real imprint for this one, so I just made one up)
BETTY & VERONICA: VIXENS (*hasn't even come out yet, so hard to say if it'll be "ongoing" or not)
Dark Circle:
THE MIGHTY CRUSADERS
Archie Action:
COSMO
Also, even though there might nominally be 3 "ongoing" titles (such as that is, for titles which rarely produce a new issue every 6 months or so) under the Archie Horror imprint, none of those titles take place in the same universe. You might also say that it's debateable as to whether even ARCHIE and THE ARCHIES are taking place in the same "universe".
So really, that's all Archie Comics publishes -- a bunch of different stand-alone comics which are independent and self-contained, and not related to any other titles.
*And by that I mean -- REGGIE AND ME was intended to be an ongoing title, but low preorders on the first couple of issues nixed that idea pretty fast, and it was downgraded to a 5-issue miniseries. That could happen to ANY of these announced-as-ongoing titles. Poor sales would result in turning it into a one-story-arc-only limited series, just enough to make up one trade collection.

Woah! You're not kidding. it's like there is only one book in each brands though some of the brands have 2 or 3 books  especially that I think that Archie horror should be a sub brand to the Archie Alterniverse (which you called it ) since it takes place in the horror version of the Archie universe  and I thought the Dark circle title will be ongoing but instead there is only the revived Mighty crusaders
But what makes you think that 'Your pal archie' will no longer be ongoing and what ever happened to Life with kevin?
But still if this type of process continues sales will be low and this will cause the company to decline or go into bankruptcy even though their first live action show Riverdale is mildly popular and the only hope is that they should sell the company to IDW or maybe DC comics itself since it's parent company Warner Bros produce the Riverdale TV show.

When I read Archie Comics solicitations for January 2018 ,One of the upcoming comics for Archie:Actions ( former home of the Sonic the Hedgehog comic book series) is COSMO a reboot of the short lived funny sci fi Archie comic from the 1950's and I have Mixed feelings about this.You see The positive side in me thinks that reviving an old but almost forgotten funny science fiction comic is great with new designs and a bit of adventure in it's theme and it will be aimed for young and old audience alike along with the reprints of the classic archie comics.But the negative side in me told me that this will be the only product in Archie Actions brand and that is considered a problem how will readers sell this only product  in that line,Archie comics should have at least make new titles for the Archie Actions brand before releasing Cosmo for 2018,I mean even if it gets positive review the sales will be low and it will be cancelled. The only way to prevent it is to have Archie Action brand be rebranded as a family brand and maybe revive  few titles aimed for both young and old audience rather than  the now teen focussed archie brand like Little Archie and Lil Jinx (the original) with maybe some original titles based or not based on any archie property and let Cosmo be a part of that line.
Or Maybe have Archie comics make a family brand with maybe the  revived Little Archie and lil Jinx (original) with family friendly Archie titles  and let Cosmo migrate in that new brand  since the design is childish and cartoonic.While the Archie Action brand will be rebranded and aimed for teen audience which will consist of the revival  of old archie action/adventure properties like Super Teens,The Man from R.I.V.E.R.D.A.L.E and Archie the Barbarian along with maybe the original action/adventure series based on any archie property or let the Archie Action brand be dead.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 12, 2017, 02:48:30 AM
I don't know for sure, but I'd be surprised to discover that manga collections, when sold in Japanese bookstores, are categorized in any other way than by separating them into their own demographic sections, according to gender and age. "Men's comics", "Women's comics", "Boys' comics", "Girls' comics".

Here in North America, however, manga collections are routinely just alphabetized by title in bookstores.

In comic book shops, floppy comics are all sorted by some combination of alphabetically and/or by major publisher, a with a small minority of "Kids' comics" sequestered off to the safety of their own little island or corner. At least after they've all been moved out of the "This Week's Comics/New Releases" section.

That right there tells you something. Those two consumer bases in two different countries are completely different animals, because the surrounding culture dictates so.

You have a good point there

Quote from: Ryanarcher on August 12, 2017, 07:13:49 AM
Hi all-


Do we know if Betty and Veronica will continue after issue 3, or is it cancelled?  Can find nothing on the web other than Adam Hughes will no longer be involved.  Thanks!

I think it's on hiatus,I think.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 12, 2017, 12:46:37 AM

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Quote from: irishmoxie on August 11, 2017, 02:12:24 PM
Why oh why can't they make a Betty and Veronica series marketed towards women?

You know,That's a good question.Why Archie couldn't make some betty and Veronica comics aimed at women,Even though the times are changing that people can read whatever they like gender or not.

VIXENS is written by a woman (Jamie Rotante), and drawn by a woman (Eva Cabrera). Why would you think it wouldn't be marketed towards women? If the concept doesn't float your boat at all, then perhaps you should discuss the topic of why all women don't like the same type of comics with Jamie Rotante, whose idea it was. It would be a mistaken assumption to think that all women just naturally like the same comics that you do. Do you think all men like exactly the same type of comics? The biggest thing I think you're missing here is that ALL comics combined have such a tiny audience relatively speaking, compared to television and movies. MOST people have no interest in comics whatsoever, whether they are male or female, but historically, far fewer women have adopted the the habit of reading those traditional floppy comic books. Many may feel such a stigma towards the format that they wouldn't even consider touching them, while they may not necessarily feel the same about a graphic novel or a manga paperback. But that's assuming they've been exposed to comics in that format to begin with, which is by no means a given. These aren't always so obvious considerations to female readers of digital format comics, because they just assume anyone could get them, so what's the problem? I think it's more a question of "But why would they want to in the first place?" If you assume there's nothing of interest to you there, then you're not looking -- but publishers can't sell female-oriented titles to a potential audience that isn't even looking.

But if you want a real answer to your question in general, just look at all the attempts Marvel (especially) has made to market comics written and drawn by women, featuring female protagonists. There just aren't enough women readers reading comics in the floppy format, that mainly have to be purchased from a comic book store, to support a title all by themselves. If the title doesn't also appeal to male readers as well, then it's certainly doomed to be cancelled right from the start. That may work fine for manga paperbacks, but that's because both the economics and the distribution are entirely different.

I guess that make sense since people can reade what ever books they want to read despite their gender.As for japan they still categorize the shounen (boys),Shojo (girls),Seinen(adult men) and Josei (adult women) in their manga magazines.Maybe  in the future manga will no longer be categorize by genre and gender  but by age instead so that people with different gender can read whatever  manga  they like

Quote from: irishmoxie on August 11, 2017, 02:12:24 PM
Why oh why can't they make a Betty and Veronica series marketed towards women?

You know,That's a good question.Why Archie couldn't make some betty and Veronica comics aimed at women,Even though the times are changing that people can read whatever they like gender or not.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 11, 2017, 02:24:36 AM
It will be interesting to see whether this turns out to be Betty & Veronica "dressed like" bikers, or Betty & Veronica AS bikers. There's a huge gap between those two to me. Not all bikers are the same, but as long as they remain Betty & Veronica (as I understand them), and there's some sense of humor to it, I'll be happy with it. Adam Hughes' version did not meet those requirements for me.

I think it will be the later as this will take place in the world where Betty and veronica are bikers but they will still be betty and veronica

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 11, 2017, 02:24:36 AM
Can they be convincing (in whatever context they're using, which may turn out to be more fantasy than reality) as bikers, and still BE Betty & Veronica? That's what I'm interested in finding out. I suspect that a little TOO much reality here could torpedo the whole idea, because it would force the characters to change to fit the situation. If it turns out that the Vixens in the story are merely lookalikes for B&V, and aren't really those characters at all, as they've been previously established, I'll drop it like a hot potato.

Well since the vixens series takes place in the world where betty and veronica are bikers ,I think they will change but they will always be betty and veronica

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 10, 2017, 02:56:08 PM

Quote from: terrence12 on August 10, 2017, 10:10:47 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 10, 2017, 08:47:51 AM
Hey, everything they've been publishing (except the digest stories) since mid-2015 has been an "alternate take" as far as I'm concerned. And before that, Afterlife With Archie. And before THAT, Life With Archie, and before THAT, "New Look Archie" and "Manga Sabrina".

Ok,Ok so most of the brand stories except the main one are  alternate takes of the characters.

You still failed to grasp my point, terrence. What you are calling "the main one" IS an alternate take, no different than the rest of those I mentioned (and the many others I failed to mention). If it's not "classic Archie", then by definition it's "an alternate take". And at its current longevity of 22 issues, it still has a long way to go to beat the previous alternate take record-holder (Life With Archie magazine).

That's not to say I dislike all alternate takes. There are plenty of them "in the classic Archie style" (as they used to say in the ads for the digests)... Pureheart the Powerful (& friends), Jughead's Time Police, Archie 1, Archie 3000!, Archie's Weird Mysteries, Agents B&V, Archie's Explorers of the Unknown, Jughead Jones Semi-Private Eye, Betty & Veronica's Storybook, Archie Cyber Adventures, Betty Cooper Super-Sleuther, etc.

Before the appearance of Your Pal Archie #1, ACP had completely ceased publishing any "regular, non-alternate" Archie comic books in the floppy comics format for two years, while the new 5-page "regular" stories in the digests continued on.

Sorry,I was just understanding and you have a good point most publications of Archie comics are alternate versions of the main characters

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 10, 2017, 08:47:51 AM
Hey, everything they've been publishing (except the digest stories) since mid-2015 has been an "alternate take" as far as I'm concerned. And before that, Afterlife With Archie. And before THAT, Life With Archie, and before THAT, "New Look Archie" and "Manga Sabrina".

Ok,Ok so most of the brand stories except the main one are  alternate takes of the characters.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 09, 2017, 06:54:57 PM

Quote from: terrence12 on August 09, 2017, 01:15:56 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 09, 2017, 09:56:27 AM
I'm surprised you didn't mention the rebooted COSMO, since that's the only title they specifically mentioned as being an Archie Action title.

Actually COSMO hasn't been announced yet or greenlighted

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/archie-comics-ceo-taking-risks-classic-characters-future-riverdale-1027516?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=Direct

THAT sure sounded like an announcement to me... plus the confirmation that Sonic is moving to IDW.

Woah! You're not kidding ,Archie comics is about to revive COSMO but still with SONIC no longer part of the Archie comics and that the upcoming revived COSMO is too childish with those designs,I think maybe Archie Comics should make  all ages line for the revived COSMO (instead of Archie Action) along with Art Baltazar's Little Archie if it turned into a full series

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 09, 2017, 07:47:55 PMKeep in mind that it's written and drawn by women, VJ. I very much doubt you're going to see B&V portrayed in the more realistic vein of the outlaw biker women on Sons of Anarchy, or the stereotypical biker chicks of the 1968-1972 R-rated biker exploitation movies. They won't be drinking beer, smoking pot, seeing which one can amass the biggest collection of tattoos, and having random sex off-panel with hunky biker dudes.I imagine this will be more like a girly girlpower schoolgirl fantasy of... "Hey, did you ever imagine what it would be like if we were badass biker babes? Vroom! VaROOM!!"  "Oh wow, I wonder what THAT would be like...?" [...Cue harpstring chorus and wavy-gravy dissolve to the dream sequence.]  ...But if they're smart they'll realize that the title can't survive with only female readers, so they'll try to make sure it has some appeal to male readers as well.I don't think this will be any more of an "action" title than the recently rebooted Josie and the Pussycats. I don't expect the kind of Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa written/David Lynch-inspired "dark underbelly" take of an Afterlife With Archie. Veronica will still be picking out her designer original biker leathers from Paris, and Betty will still be stopping to help a little girl find her stray cat.

Maybe but as for the reboot of Josie and the Pussycats I think that this comic is part of the main and that VIXENS is probably an alternate take on Betty and Veronica as bikers in some different brand of Archie probably Action or something else

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 10, 2017, 07:24:49 AMI just don't see where you're getting a heebie-jeebie vibe from THIS cover (drawn by the actual interior artist), Vegan. This looks sort of quaint, almost like those fairy-tale covers.

It's still the alternate take of Betty and Veronica as Bikers.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 09, 2017, 09:56:27 AM
The Mighty Crusaders is written by Ian Flynn, so there's some hope there that it might follow in the same vein as his New Crusaders: Rise of the Heroes miniseries.

Yeah,I hope so too.I hope the series will go for a light tone but aimed for a teen audience and let Dark circle rebrand as Red circle.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 09, 2017, 09:56:27 AM
I'm surprised you didn't mention the rebooted COSMO, since that's the only title they specifically mentioned as being an Archie Action title.

Actually COSMO hasn't been announced yet or greenlighted

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 09, 2017, 09:56:27 AM
I doubt that Betty & Veronica VIXENS will be anything like Sons of Anarchy, but we'll see I guess.

Yeah,Besides Sons of Anarchy has biker genre. So maybe VIXENS will do the same thing except it probably pays more homage to the Biker films from the late 60's to 70s

Quote from: Vegan Jughead on August 09, 2017, 01:09:56 PM
The only one of these I'm REMOTELY interested in is B&V Vixens but I'm only committing to one issue and hope it's better than the concept sounds. 

I hope so too

Quote from: Vegan Jughead on August 09, 2017, 01:09:56 PMThis might be a bridge too far for me.  Call me old fashioned but biker chicks disgust me and thinking of Betty as some kind of edgy biker (or Veronica for that matter) is disturbing.

You might have a good point there   

Quote from: Vegan Jughead on August 09, 2017, 01:09:56 PM
I've been pretty supportive of all the reboots up to now.  I'm hoping this one surprises me, but this might be the first Archie reboot I don't subscribe to.

Maybe

I got some news from CBR.com that Archie comics is about to launch Betty and Veronica Vixens another archie alternate universe spinoff starring Betty and Veronica where it takes place in another world where Betty and Veronica are biker girls taking on every bad biker gang and pays homage to the Biker girl movies from the  late 60's to the 70's and also the female equivalent of the Sons of Anarchy and will revive The Mighty Crusaders where it will involve the Dark circle version of the mighty crusaders. You can check out the news source from this link right here: http://www.cbr.com/archie-superhero-team-betty-veronica-bikers/


But still seeing with these upcoming releases ,I think I am going to guess what these two new titles are used for, I think Betty and Veronica Vixens will be used for the newly Rebranded Archie Action where it involves the action version of the Archie characters as Superheroes like 'Pureheart and the superteens' and Spies like The Man from R.I.V.E.R.D.A.L.E Because unlike the alternate horror spinoffs which is Archie Horror/Madhouse like Afterlife with Archie, Chilling Adventures of Sabrina and Jughead The hunger. Vixens would pay tribute to the Action Biker gang films from the 60's and 70's and will help to rebrand Archie:Action since it no longer has the long running Sonic the Hedgehog comics.

And with the upcoming revival of The mighty Crusaders with the Dark Circle Characters,I think that the series will return the brand to its light tone but is still aimed for the Teen Audience since Superheroes comics are for Teens only and will probably rebrand Dark Circle as Red Circle so that it can follow the process DC and MARVEL did with Rebirth and LEGACY.

This could be useful to relaunch the Archie Action brand but with realistic drawings

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on July 22, 2017, 02:58:41 AM
What about MEGA MAN? Will another comics company get that license from Capcom, or will Archie Action resurrect that title after a long hiatus, now that Sonic the Hedgehog comics are no longer an option for them? Or will we at least see that MEGA MAN MASTER EDITION reprint trade collection solicited last year (and then cancelled)?

I am sure IDW will adapt Mega Man except it will probably adapt the 2018 cartoon series and of course Archie Action will resurrect but it will focus on the old archie action spinoffs like Explorer s of the unknown and The man from RIVERDALE.